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Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby Tucy » 28 Jun 2020 10:40

Has anyone been by this one? Has there been any activity? Is the existing building still occupied?

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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby OrangeMike » 30 Jun 2020 15:14

Tucy wrote:Has anyone been by this one? Has there been any activity? Is the existing building still occupied?


Haven’t been by, but this overall update of Turtle Creek projects by Jon Anderson says the development company is starting from scratch on zoning approval with a new plan to save the existing building. He argues that it doesn’t make sense and the building isn’t worth preserving, and he also has information and opinions on the other stalled plans along the boulevard.

Is Turtle Creek Cursed? Planned Developments Struggle to Break Ground

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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 30 Jun 2020 15:40

Yeah I saw that I don't quite get what happened cause I don't think too many people were against the project as it was but maybe some on the Oak Lawn committee had a desire to see the building preserved in a trade off for the density? I mean this area is all high rises and haven't seen projects like a high rise hotel get public push back but this is a well healed area that could be working in more back channel ways. If you are truly powerful you don't need the press to apply pressure. How ironic would it be that this false sense of historical architecture gets preserved but so many other actual historical buildings in other parts of the city are treated like garbage that needs to be hauled off to the dump.
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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 30 Jun 2020 15:40

Yeah I saw that I don't quite get what happened cause I don't think too many people were against the project as it was but maybe some on the Oak Lawn committee had a desire to see the building preserved in a trade off for the density? I mean this area is all high rises and haven't seen projects like a high rise hotel get public push back but this is a well healed area that could be working in more back channel ways. If you are truly powerful you don't need the press to apply pressure. How ironic would it be that this false sense of historical architecture gets preserved but so many other actual historical buildings in other parts of the city are treated like garbage that needs to be hauled off to the dump.
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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby rono3849 » 30 Jun 2020 18:20

With COVID-19 still wrecking havoc with the hotel & travel industry, I expect the possible construction of a new hotel on Turtle Creek Boulevard has been put on the back burner until we can see some light at the end of the pandemic tunnel. The economic environment just isn't conducive to build this kind of development. Perhaps this time next year, things will be a bit more stable.

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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 30 Jun 2020 22:04

But that's not what the delay is supposedly about. The developer is still proposing a highrise hotel project but they are just changing up the design.
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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby DPatel304 » 01 Jul 2020 11:44

I walk by this pretty frequently and haven't noticed any changes to this development.

The other development further down the road on Turtle Creek appears to have stalled as well. I can't remember the name of it, but it's this one:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.802826, ... 384!8i8192

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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby Tucy » 01 Jul 2020 12:17

cowboyeagle05 wrote:But that's not what the delay is supposedly about. The developer is still proposing a highrise hotel project but they are just changing up the design.


Do we actually know that for sure? According to Candy, all we know is that they are changing the plan and now plan to keep the existing "chateau". That, and that the developer might be on thin ice, financially.

As I said when this one was announced, don't hold your breath.
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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby CTroyMathis » 01 Jul 2020 12:41

I have a hard time believing in anything hotel-related right now. (RE: new construction & not already u/c)

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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 01 Jul 2020 13:07

Yes we know what Candy's blog says. Last I heard its still a hotel project.
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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby Tucy » 01 Jul 2020 13:41

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Yes we know what Candy's blog says. Last I heard its still a hotel project.


Alrighty then. ;-) Is it still a high-rise?

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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 01 Jul 2020 15:30

Last I heard but I admit even I am second guessing my source cause it wasn't the horses mouth more like the horses back end.
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Re: Turtle Creek : 2999 Turtle Creek Blvd

Postby itsjrd1964 » 02 Jul 2020 11:30

CTroyMathis wrote:I have a hard time believing in anything hotel-related right now. (RE: new construction & not already u/c)


It could be *many many* months (if not much longer) before anything smooths out among existing hotels. There's still little reason for people to come to the DFW area at the moment, and business traffic is still at a crawl, with greater awareness and use of video-conferencing as well as working from home. The hotels that have been planned or in the pipeline really are rolling the dice. It's very unlikely for now that all the upcoming ones can open, much less make it, when there are still existing hotels that are closed or have operations that have been drastically slashed. The hotel next to the one where I work, is dealing with single-digit occupancy levels; they have no food and beverage, and our breakfast hostess is doing their room laundry.

I'm trying not to poke holes in balloons, but the industry (locally and nationally) is not going to resemble pre-virus times for a while, and any project should be considered know-it-when-you-see-it at this rate.


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