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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby Kelley USA » 25 Jun 2019 10:57

Primo's is returning to it's original location on McKinney Ave as a more elevated concept... The interesting note, it'll be owned by Mehrdad Moayedi of Centurion American who apparently is starting a new company called Refined Hospitality Group.

https://cravedfw.com/2019/06/25/primos- ... t-concept/

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 25 Jun 2019 11:13

From their store website...
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Before from Google Maps...
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Postby emmasensei » 25 Jun 2019 11:17

yes, that definitely shows how this is an upgraded corner. I hope Foxtrot sets a new standard along McKinney for how well it draws people in and invites them to linger/socialize on the street.

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Postby DPatel304 » 25 Jun 2019 11:24

The Foxtrot space looks great! I agree, I hope they set the standard for future developments along McKinney Ave.

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Postby DPatel304 » 26 Jun 2019 10:42

Kelley USA wrote:Primo's is returning to it's original location on McKinney Ave as a more elevated concept... The interesting note, it'll be owned by Mehrdad Moayedi of Centurion American who apparently is starting a new company called Refined Hospitality Group.

https://cravedfw.com/2019/06/25/primos- ... t-concept/


I remember going once back in the day. At the time, it didn't really seem like anything special, but I much prefer a restaurant like this over So&Sos, Parlay, etc..

With this and Foxtrot, I'm feeling better about the direction McKinney Ave is headed in. Hopefully now with Circo gone, they can replace it with a restaurant that will better suite the neighborhood.

Does anyone know anything about these two buildings. I know the further one is the former TBD bar, which has been vacant ever since that place closed down. Is the other building still being utilized by an apartment locator? This particular area seems to be very underutilized, IMO:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8042724 ... 384!8i8192

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby flyswatter » 26 Jun 2019 17:25

Lived in the high rise apartments just north of that (McKinney Uptown) for two years. Both buildings have been closed/abandoned since before summer 2016. I always heard that the owner of that parking lot makes a ton of money off valet/parking for the bars across the street and hasn't had an interest to sell it.

I must admit that while I'm happy Primo's is going in, I'm disappointed they want to essentially make it millennial friendly with a trendier name and "modern" cocktails.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 26 Jun 2019 17:28

Yeah, I imagine he would make more if he tore down those derelict buildings then. The land will go for a pretty penny for another apartment tower at some point. All his patience is paying off with the Central Market coming just down the street.

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Postby Lakewood2Uptown » 26 Jun 2019 20:17

emmasensei wrote:Went to Foxtrot Corner Market on McKinney this morning for their grand opening (hey, they were giving out free coffee!). The store itself is fine, but what I really liked was the store's integration with the pedestrian realm. The patio is the real star of the show, and there was a nice bustle with lots of folks walking their dogs to and fro.

Love this place. The perfect addition to the neighborhood.

I can't believe Primo's is coming back. Foxtrot and Primo's give me hope for Uptown. Now just get the Central Market here!

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Postby DPatel304 » 28 Jun 2019 13:40

I visited Foxtrot yesterday and really loved the space, and think it's a great addition to the neighborhood. It looks like it provides a bit of everything, and, surprisingly, it seems to execute it pretty well. There's a very decent wine and beer selection for anyone who wants to grab a drink and hang out, it looks like they do coffee as well, and have outlets and wi-fi for people who want a place to study/work. In addition to grab and go items, they offered a decent amount of frozen foods and also some snacks.

I was there on a Thursday at around 9pm, and there was a decent amount of people who were hanging out on the patio, and also just popping in to get something to go.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby Redblock » 10 Jul 2019 00:57

Car wash/gas station closed?

The car wash/gas station at Lemmon East and Cole has all the pay slots on the car wash and gas pumps covered over and marked out of service. There was a small rig taking samples. Perhaps checking for gasoline leaks.

Has anyone heard of a problem there?

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Postby exelone31 » 10 Jul 2019 08:41

Redblock wrote:Car wash/gas station closed?

The car wash/gas station at Lemmon East and Cole has all the pay slots on the car wash and gas pumps covered over and marked out of service. There was a small rig taking samples. Perhaps checking for gasoline leaks.

Has anyone heard of a problem there?


Probably just getting ready to raze the site and put up a Walgreens. There's a definite need in that area.

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Postby rogerroger » 10 Jul 2019 11:11

exelone31 wrote:
Probably just getting ready to raze the site and put up a Walgreens. There's a definite need in that area.


haha.. Yeah, if we could only be so lucky to get another suburban type of pharmacy on that site, it would complete the trifecta with Walgreens and CVS.

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Postby Kelley USA » 10 Jul 2019 11:49

Wasn't there a proposal for a Pollo Tropical a few years back for this plot? That would have been a disaster seeing as they didn't last very long in this market. The owners would actually make a killing if they tore down the current car wash / gas station and built one of those drive-thru car washes with the free vacuums. Not saying I want that, but they would make a fortune!

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Postby dch526 » 10 Jul 2019 12:08

Redblock wrote:Car wash/gas station closed?

The car wash/gas station at Lemmon East and Cole has all the pay slots on the car wash and gas pumps covered over and marked out of service. There was a small rig taking samples. Perhaps checking for gasoline leaks.

Has anyone heard of a problem there?


A few years back when Texas Land and Cattle was still in business, I had heard rumors of a 7-story apartment complex going in to replace the TLC, gas station & car wash. With this site being about the size of the Taylor, I wouldn't be surprised if a 15-20 story tower goes in here if this is indication of a development.

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Postby Tnexster » 10 Jul 2019 16:32

A little luck....maybe something good will happen here.

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Postby DPatel304 » 25 Jul 2019 23:19

Image

New sinage in front of the former Uptown Urban Market space.

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Postby LongonBigD » 29 Jul 2019 15:33

Tnexster wrote:A little luck....maybe something good will happen here.


Just read on Nextdoor that the security guard there (gas station/car wash at Lemmon/Cole) is saying it is to be a RaceTrac. For the love of God I hope this is a very misinformed source.

Just when you thought that block couldn’t get worse than suburban CVS.

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Postby Matt777 » 29 Jul 2019 15:47

LongonBigD wrote:
Tnexster wrote:A little luck....maybe something good will happen here.


Just read on Nextdoor that the security guard there (gas station/car wash at Lemmon/Cole) is saying it is to be a RaceTrac. For the love of God I hope this is a very misinformed source.

Just when you thought that block couldn’t get worse than suburban CVS.


Wow. I think I'm officially going to start looking for new cities to relocate to if this is true. I just... can't.... with Dallas sometimes.

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Postby Redblock » 29 Jul 2019 15:52

LongonBigD wrote:
Tnexster wrote:A little luck....maybe something good will happen here.


Just read on Nextdoor that the security guard there (gas station/car wash at Lemmon/Cole) is saying it is to be a RaceTrac. For the love of God I hope this is a very misinformed source.

Just when you thought that block couldn’t get worse than suburban CVS.



Pollo Tropical was denied a zoning change because they wanted a drive-thru window that would close at 10 pm. But RaceTrac expects zoning for a midnight or 24/7 gas station?

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Postby Tnexster » 29 Jul 2019 21:43

Seems like an odd location for a RaceTrac.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby Redblock » 30 Jul 2019 00:24

Redblock wrote:
LongonBigD wrote:
Tnexster wrote:A little luck....maybe something good will happen here.


Just read on Nextdoor that the security guard there (gas station/car wash at Lemmon/Cole) is saying it is to be a RaceTrac. For the love of God I hope this is a very misinformed source.

Just when you thought that block couldn’t get worse than suburban CVS.



Pollo Tropical was denied a zoning change because they wanted a drive-thru window that would close at 10 pm. But RaceTrac expects zoning for a midnight or 24/7 gas station?


After thinking about my own post, the property probably already has the zoning RaceTrac would want [gas station/car wash). This was likely granted many years ago, before Uptown began to develop.

My question is would the current zoning/special use permit lapse if the business stops operating for some period (a month, quarter or year)? That would cause the zoning process to start from scratch and to consider the current surrounding neighborhood.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 30 Jul 2019 09:56

It's not an odd location for a Race Trac honestly it's between two high capacity roads. We all, of course, think it's odd because the rest f the area is urbanizing and with that Central Market high-density project coming it seems odd but Race Trac wants those shoppers gas purchases as much as any gas station would.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 30 Jul 2019 09:58

DCAD says it's owned by the same LP that owns the CVS next door, which tells me they're not interested in building anything remotely urban here. However, it does seem like a small lot for Racetrac since they're known for their massive line of pumps and bigger-than-average beverage cases.

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Postby LongonBigD » 30 Jul 2019 15:46

CORRECTION: The Nextdoor commenter said QT, not RaceTrac.

Regardless, I was thinking the lot size was small for that too. What if you include TxLC lot? That would be large and get you access to BOTH Lemmon Aves.

While that kind of deal doesn’t make sense to us development wannabes, it would make sense if the LP owned other far flung lots and said, “QT, you can have Lemmon/Cole if I get these six 20 year ground leases in Forney, Haslet, etc”

Still hoping this is just bad information.

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Postby Redblock » 03 Oct 2019 12:27

uptown74 wrote:TaTa Asian Cuisine opened up in the space vacated by Gui Korean Japanese Bistro at 2719 Mckinney Ave.
It appears they had their soft opening on June 3.



TaTa just went ta-ta. The space is now Lover's Egg Roll. New signage was up yesterday. It's the same owner. I guess TaTa Asian Cuisine was not as popular as he hoped so he went with his original concept.

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Postby Lakewood2Uptown » 17 Oct 2019 17:32

The space at 2909 McKinney (formerly Vino 100) which has been empty for at about five years has signs of life. Painting and activity inside over the past week.

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Postby Lakewood2Uptown » 22 Oct 2019 18:14

The old Shell Shack location at 2916 McKinney had activity today and a guy who was painting said it is going to be Sweetie Pie's Pizza. The only Sweetie Pie's Pizza I could find was in PA but it has closed.

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Postby Redblock » 22 Oct 2019 20:38

^^^ Close, it will be CutiePies Pizza. Here is their FB page.

https://m.facebook.com/CutiePiesPizza/

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Postby Lakewood2Uptown » 10 Nov 2019 22:43

Eastwood's Bar (3407 McKinney - between The Loon and Velvet Taco) has closed.

It seems like work on the new Primo's location has slowed to a crawl. I was told a couple of months ago the plan was to open in early December but I have my doubts.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby homeworld1031tx » 11 Nov 2019 08:57

Lakewood2Uptown wrote:Eastwood's Bar (3407 McKinney - between The Loon and Velvet Taco) has closed.



So another bar bites the dust. Any insight into why they're closing?

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby DPatel304 » 11 Nov 2019 11:36

I was out walking about this weekend in the Uptown area on both Saturday and Sunday and noticed that the Katy Trail (and Katy Trail icehouse) were teeming with traffic. McKinney Ave had an okay amount of foot traffic, and West Village was also decently busy, but it seems like these parts of town used to generate a lot more foot traffic several years ago when there weren't as many alternative walkable areas (or they weren't as developed as they are today).

I don't have any insight on Eastwood's. I do feel like Uptown, in general, is in this odd transitionary phase where it is no longer new and exciting, so it's likely drawing less of the commuter traffic. That and it is also having to compete with Lower Greenville, Deep Ellum, Bishop Arts, Downtown, and Trinity Groves these days. I think businesses in Uptown will have to rely more and more on local residents and office workers, rather than commuters. Ultimately, this is what you want in an urban neighborhood, but I can't say this has ever been successfully accomplished before.

Obviously Uptown still is and will continue to be a destination for commuters, but I really think we'll need to focus more on having enough residents and office works in the immediate vicinity to support these restaurants.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby flyswatter » 11 Nov 2019 13:05

When I lived across the street, Eastwoods was always a good stop for Happy Hour but it definitely wasn't the hot late night place. The Loon was commonly busier. That whole stretch has great "local" bars but it's also awkwardly between the "cooler" bars farther south and the restaurants of West Village so the foot traffic is understandably less.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby Cbdallas » 11 Nov 2019 13:41

The entire stretch of McKinney could use a lot more high rise living thus density.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby jetnd87 » 11 Nov 2019 13:42

Should improve once Central Market development goes. If it goes......

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby DPatel304 » 11 Nov 2019 13:52

Cbdallas wrote:The entire stretch of McKinney could use a lot more high rise living thus density.

jetnd87 wrote:Should improve once Central Market development goes. If it goes......


Indeed. Uptown is definitely right on trick to become more dense, but, for now, we are still in a transitionary period, which might be tough for some businesses.

Central Market and Quandrangle developments will definitely help, though.

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Postby jetnd87 » 11 Nov 2019 14:46

Also curious as to when that plot of land + vacant building that was supposed to be the Dream Hotel will turn into something. Such a waste as it stands.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Business Openings and Closings

Postby Kelley USA » 11 Nov 2019 15:04

Don't forget there's also a development in the works for the corner where Jake's is right now...

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... las-tower/


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