Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment (The Central)

I45Tex · Post by **I45Tex** » 16 May 2023 06:26

Thanks kingkong and dallaz...
I would have thought Skyhouse(Novare) could push their business model as hard as they push their construction coordination and timeline, and make a difference in master-planned redevelopment sites like this that are not the traditional Frisco edge city nor downtown-adjacent trophy shelf. But so far no sign of their interest.

Post by **Tnexster** » 16 May 2023 08:46

Maybe we will get an updated picture of the phase one building soon.

kingkong34 · Post by **kingkong34** » 16 May 2023 11:44

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Post by **Tnexster** » 16 May 2023 11:50

That was fast! Thanks!

dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 17 May 2023 18:02

This isn’t my picture at all. I’ve seen this on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comment ... utm_term=1

Zoomed in and took a few screenshots. Good view of CityPlace/Uptown area and The Oliver U/C in The Central. Also, if you zoom in to the left of CityPlace Tower, you can see The Quad rising too.

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Cbdallas · Post by **Cbdallas** » 02 Jun 2023 06:50

A coup here would be to convince Target to move across the street and open a large urban store in this development other retail would follow and build out more residential towers. Then you could finally redevelop around the Cityplace tower.

Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 03 Jun 2023 11:15

Cbdallas wrote:A coup here would be to convince Target to move across the street and open a large urban store in this development other retail would follow and build out more residential towers. Then you could finally redevelop around the Cityplace tower.

I think there was push back from the site owners years back to redevelop. Sadly it will stay as is for the foreseeable future.

Post by **Tnexster** » 25 Oct 2023 09:09

Noticed this one is visible from 75, anybody know what floor they are on?

I45Tex · Post by **I45Tex** » 25 Oct 2023 09:51

Target’s building is 30 years old now and presumably maintenance costs have begun their predictable upward spiral, but it is owned by Target/Dayton Hudson Corp, so a sale and leaseback agreement is probably the most they would agree to as a next step. Some kind of crowdsourcing & crowdfunding “megatactical urbanism” nonprofit community land-repositioning trust could be a good thing for CTroy to start in the spirit of his longago urban recreation meetup group

kingkong34 · Post by **kingkong34** » 25 Oct 2023 14:04

I want to say they are on 12 or 13. So 6-7 more floors to go

DFW · Post by **DFW** » 21 Nov 2023 16:28

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... wn-dallas/

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 22 Nov 2023 12:59

$6M and 14KSF. So, kinda the size of 1-2 CVSgreens, and, a 100-year build quality to match. Sweet! ; )

Dallas_Uptown · Post by **Dallas_Uptown** » 22 Nov 2023 21:35

CTroyMathis wrote:$6M and 14KSF. So, kinda the size of 1-2 CVSgreens, and, a 100-year build quality to match. Sweet! ; )

Wait…what?

kingpin · Post by **kingpin** » 26 Nov 2023 11:19

Untitled by rlopez2011, on Flickr

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 01 Dec 2023 18:18

Today.

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LongonBigD · Post by **LongonBigD** » 04 Dec 2023 20:33

Here’s a story about the next phase of The Central according to culturemap DALLAS focusing on the leaning tower.

https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/real ... e-la-vega/

Post by **Tnexster** » 05 Dec 2023 09:25

Looks great it comes to fruition.

Kelley USA · Post by **Kelley USA** » 05 Dec 2023 10:39

Tnexster wrote:Looks great it comes to fruition.

This could turn out better than the Goldman North End project!

eburress · Post by **eburress** » 05 Dec 2023 11:10

lol it already is!

kingkong34 · Post by **kingkong34** » 05 Dec 2023 16:45

I live by there, and they have not started on this portion just yet. Only activity is on the residential building.

Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 07 Dec 2023 11:54

De La Vega getting some street cred.

I45Tex · Post by **I45Tex** » 07 Dec 2023 13:23

Street cred would be a Tivo Kenevil boutique on the ground floor.

dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 15 Jan 2024 15:53

Screenshot of The Oliver U/C. This from 10 or 11 days ago.

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Older screenshots from over 4 months ago from the development website

Thought I’d share. It’s a nice view of the high-rise infill north of Downtown

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Dallas_Uptown · Post by **Dallas_Uptown** » 16 Jan 2024 01:06

Kelley USA wrote:
Tnexster wrote:Looks great it comes to fruition.
This could turn out better than the Goldman North End project!

Wow, the bar is low.

zblevinz555 · Post by **zblevinz555** » 17 Jan 2024 10:29

Different angle of the office towers. Don’t recall if someone already shared this.

I45Tex · Post by **I45Tex** » 17 Jan 2024 11:00

Cool thanks

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 21 Feb 2024 17:04

How it looks from Uptown Station, today:

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RodB · Post by **RodB** » 03 May 2024 17:09

Has construction stopped on this project? There hasn't been much activity in a few weeks.

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 03 May 2024 20:52

They are doing exterior work.

RodB · Post by **RodB** » 22 Jun 2024 18:30

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dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 29 Jul 2024 18:12

Just came across this free article. It is just confirming what I already knew, high interest rates are delaying projects.

StreetLights Residential is Going Strong With The Central and The Galatyn Near Katy Trail

ahx0 · Post by **ahx0** » 03 Aug 2024 05:40

Looks like the exterior is nearly done.

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Post by **CTroyMathis** » 03 Aug 2024 11:04

Thanks for the photos!

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 03 Aug 2024 17:53

The tower doesn't resemble the tower in the original renderings. They were covered in reflective glass. Now they have multiple finishing & are less monolithic. Interesting choice.

dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 03 Aug 2024 19:03

Nice pics!

Not sure if this was shared or not, but it looks like the development will have temporary parking lots. It will likely serve the retail.

This was updated May 16

https://falconcompanies.com/listing/the-central/

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zaphod · Post by **zaphod** » 03 Aug 2024 21:54

Is that retail/lawn area going to get started in the near future?

ahx0 · Post by **ahx0** » 04 Aug 2024 07:02

The new rendering with the surface lots is not good news to me. It seems to replace most of the space allocated for a fitness center with a parking lot. The area really needs a new fitness center as Cowboys Fit East Dallas and LA Fitness Uptown are seemingly at capacity.

Previous Rendering:

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New Rendering:

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dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 04 Aug 2024 08:52

ahx0 wrote: ↑04 Aug 2024 07:02 The new rendering with the surface lots is not good news to me. It seems to replace most of the space allocated for a fitness center with a parking lot. The area really needs a new fitness center as Cowboys Fit East Dallas and LA Fitness Uptown are seemingly at capacity.

Previous Rendering:
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New Rendering:
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Doubt it’s being replaced. It’s more than likely temporary. The article I posted mentioned that the project is delayed because of high interest rates. I don’t think that the 2nd phase is starting anytime soon. The same thing is happening at the NorthEnd development and that’s how VP was developed as well.

The original site plan for The Oliver at The Central called for a lot of office and retail but that may change due to market constraints, de Bruin said.

“As you know, the office market has completely tanked,” he said. “We’re a little concerned about what the total development will look like. Hopefully, there will be more opportunities for multifamily. They had probably four or five office buildings planned that never materialized or there’s a big delay.”

Edit: My bad, I forgot to quote the article

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 04 Aug 2024 12:14

That middle surface lot should just be park space.

RodB · Post by **RodB** » 06 Sep 2024 13:41

https://therealdeal.com/magazine/septem ... st-dallas/

dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 06 Sep 2024 17:16

RodB wrote: ↑06 Sep 2024 13:41 https://therealdeal.com/magazine/septem ... st-dallas/

Thanks for sharing!

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 07 Sep 2024 10:00

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This development will take a number of years to complete. The office portion of the development will definitely go slower than the residential & hotel parts. I could see a few of those office towers converted into condos or apartments.

Post by **tamtagon** » 07 Sep 2024 10:25

Still no subway access

dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 07 Sep 2024 10:35

tamtagon wrote: ↑07 Sep 2024 10:25 Still no subway access

Well at least there’s an entrance on other side of Central Expressway

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zaphod · Post by **zaphod** » 07 Sep 2024 10:47

Wait, I thought there was an exit point in the bottom of Cityplace tower?

I wonder what it would take to create a fully public subway entrance on the east side though.

Post by **tamtagon** » 07 Sep 2024 10:54

The station under citiplace was initially built to accommodate access from this side of haskell

ahx0 · Post by **ahx0** » 07 Sep 2024 13:58

zaphod wrote: ↑07 Sep 2024 10:47 Wait, I thought there was an exit point in the bottom of Cityplace tower?

I wonder what it would take to create a fully public subway entrance on the east side though.

Yes... there are public entrances to the Cityplace/Uptown station on both sides of 75. I've entered from both sides many times.

ahx0 · Post by **ahx0** » 07 Sep 2024 14:06

ahx0 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2024 13:58 Yes... there are public entrances to the Cityplace/Uptown station on both sides of 75. I've entered from both sides many times.

There are actually 2 entrances on the East Side:

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Post by **CTroyMathis** » 08 Sep 2024 09:50

ahx0 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2024 14:06
ahx0 wrote: ↑07 Sep 2024 13:58 Yes... there are public entrances to the Cityplace/Uptown station on both sides of 75. I've entered from both sides many times.
There are actually 2 entrances on the East Side:

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That matching wallpalooza blockade is so inviting! (sarcasm)
Not so long ago: https://maps.app.goo.gl/v9Nb3DQDsyqgJwgy6

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 08 Sep 2024 10:02

tamtagon wrote: ↑07 Sep 2024 10:54 The station under citiplace was initially built to accommodate access from this side of haskell

I believe Tam is referring to yet another entrance that did not materialize:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cityplace/Uptown_station
Original station plans allowed for another set of entrances at the north end of the platforms, which could serve future development north of Haskell Avenue.