Arts District: 1900 Pearl (362 FT | 25 ST)
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This is a big parking tower with a little office space at the top.
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The glass looks very dark
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1900 Pearl and Park District as seen today, 5MAR17
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joshua.dodd wrote:When are they going to start covering the garage portion with glass? That part of the tower is ugly as hell.
They are enclosing the office space first so they can start building out the interior walls for tenants. The garage enclosing process is the last thing on their to-do list.
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Are the parking garage plates included in the 25 story count? If so, does that mean this building has only 1 floor to go until topping out?
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Yes. And it appears they are now working on the top floor. Only the "crown" remains.
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What would be so bad about candy cane stripes?
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^or like, maybe get Sally Beauty Supply to relocate, and clad the garage as a bunch of barber shop poles.
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I'm going to need a photo from 1 Arts to see how this fits in with the arts district.
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Downtown Dallas tower hits the top floor of construction
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... nstruction
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... nstruction
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Parking garage complaints to start in 5...4...3...2...1...
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cowboyeagle05 wrote:Parking garage complaints to start in 5...4...3...2...1...
Another parking garage that will be difficult to convert to other purposes in the future. Is this a problem with Dallas code requirements? Other cities are planning for (or starting to think about)the future with their projects:
https://www.curbed.com/2017/4/26/154215 ... rs-gensler
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dfwcre8tive wrote:cowboyeagle05 wrote:Parking garage complaints to start in 5...4...3...2...1...
Another parking garage that will be difficult to convert to other purposes in the future. Is this a problem with Dallas code requirements? Other cities are planning for (or starting to think about)the future with their projects:
https://www.curbed.com/2017/4/26/154215 ... rs-gensler
I'm curious to know how expensive these multi-purpose garages are compared to underground garages. I used to think that a building that took the time and money to build an underground parking garage would really make things better for the surrounding area, but, honestly, if a developer can build a building with a garage that can be converted down the line, then I am perfectly happy with it being above ground. I'd imagine this would also make things quicker and easier for developers, and it would add some height to the building, so this seems like a win-win.
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Has there ever been a building with more above grade garage floors than actual floors for office /retail..
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Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Has there ever been a building with more above grade garage floors than actual floors for office /retail..
Yes there are examples and not necessarily in Dallas.
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Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Has there ever been a building with more above grade garage floors than actual floors for office /retail..
1100 Wilshire blvd in LA was the first to come to mind... But, looking at it now (if you dare) it's still less parking than functional space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1100_Wilshire
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Another one is One Biscayne Tower in Miami, and it's a very prominent building since it's unobstructed when viewed from Biscayne Bay.
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I'm sure tenants will love driving in tight circles through 10 levels of parking to get in and out.
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Marina Towers in Chicago is a bit like that but probably has more residential than parking space, although the parking is all exposed so it's ugly. See the movie The Hunter with Steve McQueen for a good chase scene inside the garage.
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Tnexster wrote:Marina Towers in Chicago is a bit like that but probably has more residential than parking space, although the parking is all exposed so it's ugly. See the movie The Hunter with Steve McQueen for a good chase scene inside the garage.
I do think Marina Towers has "iconic" status even with its exposed parking.
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CRE_Investor wrote:I'm sure tenants will love driving in tight circles through 10 levels of parking to get in and out.
This is a very annoying feature of some of these new buildings. 1920 mckinney is like this as well. it has something like 7 floors of parking? I go to it's we work location now and then and its such a pain to drive up 6-7 floors, not to mention dangerous. There is zero visibility around the corners and they are quite tight. on multiple occasions I've just parked on a lower floor, taken the parking elevators down to the lobby, and then took the building elevators up to the actual interior space just to save myself from the hassle.
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Downtown Dallas' next tower is heading toward opening
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... rd-opening
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... rd-opening
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Most of the tower is parking lol
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Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Most of the tower is parking lol
I actually like that notion - add parking to all the new towers to get an extra 10-15 floors of height! hahaha
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Hopefully the rest of the building leases as they near completion. I didn't know only Baker McKenzie had signed so far.
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Could be a lot worse
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6/4/17
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here is one from 5/23
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Kinda hard to believe such a boring building will occupy such a prominent corner. Such a waste.
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I agree, The renderings looked a lot more interesting. I will wait to see what the final product will look like. Maybe they will add some stuff to give it some character.
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I absolutely hate this building. What a waste. Even throwing in some exciting lighting package at night can't spruce this one up
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This looks like a 1980's building that belongs at Keller Springs and the tollway. Even that wouldn't have this much parking!
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It's not done yet.maybe it will look better w progress
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Don't hold your breath...
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The side of the building shown in the last photos is 1900 Pearl's "dead" side, for what it's worth. It's like the back of Blue Ciel...the people designing it gave up on the final 1/4 of the building. In both cases, the other 3/4 looks much better.
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Normally I try to be as optimistic as possible on these things but this one is hard. From certain angles, it is starting to look like the monolith from Space Odyssey 2001.
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Tnexster wrote:Normally I try to be as optimistic as possible on these things but this one is hard. From certain angles, it is starting to look like the monolith from Space Odyssey 2001.
That would have been so much better. Nothing wrong a good strong box.
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We've been getting a few monoliths lately, with Richards group and then to a certain extent, this. This one's definitely not inspired architecture, but I think it will look better once it's done.
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I think Tam has a point, if they would have designed a tower that looked just like the Monolith, it would have looked better than this.....and it would be famous. This is just ugly and it blocks the view of Museum Tower on Woodall which was actually a pleasant view.
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When I look at this building I think to myself this is nothing more than your neighborhood fixer-upper equivalent meant for nothing else than revolving rent...parking garage included. I'm disappointed that a striking tower doesn't occupy this highly visible space as pointed out prior. I'm sure I'm ignorant to all the economic dynamics involved that leads to this type of building, but this one, like the Richard's Group's "compliment" to City Place, escapes me. These increasing types of buildings make me hope the architectural movement will, at the very least, re-adopt post-modern expressions. Kuddos on the comment that a "strong box" (tall box) would've served this real estate better.
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As I felt with the Richard's Group I don't have the biggest problem with this much parking in buildings right now as long is it is attractive as it is in both buildings.
Hopefully what we will see happening is in the coming years is that as parking needs decrease inside these buildings they will open the parking to the public and buildings developing surface parking lots and low rise commercial space will point to them to justify significantly scaling back code required parking as their tenants can just park in the nearby public parking garage instead of making them develop their own.
Don't worry, the space won't need to be converted, it will stay utilized, just by tenants of other buildings not their own.
Hopefully what we will see happening is in the coming years is that as parking needs decrease inside these buildings they will open the parking to the public and buildings developing surface parking lots and low rise commercial space will point to them to justify significantly scaling back code required parking as their tenants can just park in the nearby public parking garage instead of making them develop their own.
Don't worry, the space won't need to be converted, it will stay utilized, just by tenants of other buildings not their own.
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I noticed today they are finally starting to glass in the garage.