Victory Park 3.0

Post by **cowboyeagle05** » 08 Nov 2020 15:04

Still I wonder how they will tackle that ADA parking in the future. Surely there is a way to provide adequate access for the ADA needs of a venue like the AA Center and not keep just a sizable open parking lot.

kingpin · Post by **kingpin** » 10 Nov 2020 22:25

Untitled by rlopez2011, on Flickr

DPatel304 · Post by **DPatel304** » 28 Nov 2020 17:41

I forgot the name of this development, and I'm not entirely sure if this area is still considered Victory Park. This is just north of Wooddall Rogers right across the street from where the Hard Rock Cafe used to be.

clcrash19 · Post by **clcrash19** » 29 Nov 2020 18:40

Driving by the harwood no 12 site, around the fence there is graphics and updated signage for a new prosperity bank which will be right next to it and across from the rolex hq site.

Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 29 Nov 2020 21:00

DPatel304 wrote:

I forgot the name of this development, and I'm not entirely sure if this area is still considered Victory Park. This is just north of Wooddall Rogers right across the street from where the Hard Rock Cafe used to be.

This is the old stark club. There's a thread for that project already..it's the west end 1.0 thread

kingpin · Post by **kingpin** » 30 Nov 2020 16:33

Untitled by rlopez2011, on Flickr

itsjrd1964 · Post by **itsjrd1964** » 02 Dec 2020 04:59

PNC Bank buys naming rights to plaza outside Dallas' American Airlines Center

On the heels of buying the US operations of BBVA (locally, the former Compass Bank), PNC has snagged the naming rights to the plaza south of the AAC from AT&T.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/ban ... es-center/

clcrash19 · Post by **clcrash19** » 02 Dec 2020 10:30

PNC is opening up a solutions center next to harwood 12 site, hope to being construction q2 2021.

Tucy · Post by **Tucy** » 04 Dec 2020 11:08

clcrash19 wrote:PNC is opening up a solutions center next to harwood 12 site, hope to being construction q2 2021.

Just to add and clarify,

The "solutions center" is nothing more than a traditional-sized bank branch, and according to the article in the Dallas Business Journal, their goal is for it to "begin operations by at least Q2 of 2021."

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 04 Dec 2020 15:09

Will be interesting to see how they do parking on that small corner lot. It will probably end up being a drive thru ATM and the rest surface parking. lol

I45Tex · Post by **I45Tex** » 04 Dec 2020 19:54

Thanks jrd, and Tucy.

When Compass Bank was bought, BBVA kept their former headquarters office in Birmingham but added senior staff at a BBVA USA parent headquarters in The Woodlands, Texas. It later moved to the Galleria area of Houston. With PNC's pending acquisition of BBVA USA, I haven't heard of PNC saying they're going to sideline either city (Birmingham and Houston), and as far as I can tell Pittsburgh still has a lock on the headquarters in a way Detroit didn't with Comerica.

Still interesting to imagine what scenarios would lead to this new national consumer bank system adding office jobs in Dallas rather than Houston or Pittsburgh, though.

willyk · Post by **willyk** » 03 Jan 2021 11:00

From September 2020

Local developer offers glimpse at future development possibilities in Victory Park

Hillwood owns an 8.5-acre parking lot along Victory Avenue, where on the southernmost portion, Victory Commons One is currently being built. Two more office towers could eventually join it, the company revealed earlier this week.

"It's always been in the plans, that we would have three buildings there. We could potentially combine the second and third buildings into a larger complex, but we always thought about the eight and a half acres being for office buildings," Reese said.

The three towers combined could offer up to 1.5 million square feet of new office space, according to marketing material released by Hillwood.

So far, no tenants have been announced at Victory Commons One. Hillwood is marketing and leasing the property themselves. The project, which is being developed in partnership with San Antonio-based USAA Real Estate, is expected to deliver by November 2021. Reese says USAA Real Estate is not currently attached as a partner to the future buildings.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... -park.html

kingpin · Post by **kingpin** » 11 Jan 2021 12:10

Magnolia Station

Untitled by rlopez2011, on Flickr

kingpin · Post by **kingpin** » 11 Jan 2021 12:18

Victory Commons

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kingpin · Post by **kingpin** » 11 Jan 2021 12:54

Brewery Building

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Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 12 Jan 2021 00:09

Those magnolia apartments are cheap looking with that beige stucco

willyk · Post by **willyk** » 12 Jan 2021 04:52

I am also disappointed to see the brewery building covered in stucco. I was hoping to see the old brick like the rest of the West End. Was the old brick too fragile? Did removing the gray paint damage it.

eburress · Post by **eburress** » 12 Jan 2021 06:57

Yeah, that's definitely disappointing about the Brewery building. They may as well have just razed the thing if stucco was what they were going to do.

homeworld1031tx · Post by **homeworld1031tx** » 12 Jan 2021 23:52

Ya, good god, what a waste. This brewery building is quite imposing on Woodall when you're going WB - the highway bumps right up against it. Having a cool, urban, brick façade would have looked so nice on this thing but no... now' we just get what looks like a Plano tilt wall flex warehouse sticking right up off the road...

Dallas Gypsy · Post by **Dallas Gypsy** » 13 Jan 2021 04:40

Leave it to these developers to turn potential into a dud. Stucco trashitecture will look like ghetto slums in twenty years.

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 13 Jan 2021 09:16

Dallas Gypsy wrote:Leave it to these developers to turn potential into a dud. Stucco trashitecture will look like ghetto slums in twenty years.

Looks like they've already accomplished that. Hideous.

Post by **undefinedprocess** » 13 Jan 2021 10:04

Who's bringing pitchforks? I've got torches & signs!

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 13 Jan 2021 11:10

It is definitely disappointing. I suppose maybe there was no hope for the brick after removing paint. I would've been fine with just repainting the brick after all the remodeling was complete than going this route.

Also, there could've been this from a design comp awhile back:
http://www.bokapowell.com/project/the-brewery-site/

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 13 Jan 2021 11:19

While I don't think it's very likely, I do contemplate if they have any intention for applying thin brick veneer tiles around the windows. . .

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 13 Jan 2021 16:16

Brewery-Site_-View-01_website.jpg

I guess there's a snowball's chance that this development will ever be built, especially in the wake the announcement of the Hunt buildings in Victory Park.

Post by **Tnexster** » 13 Jan 2021 16:34

Would have been a nice addition.

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 13 Jan 2021 20:25

I thought there were still plans for residential on the back surface lot.

dalbert · Post by **dalbert** » 18 Jan 2021 21:55

IMG_1665.jpg

Post by **undefinedprocess** » 18 Jan 2021 22:58

rono3849 wrote:Brewery-Site_-View-01_website.jpg

I guess there's a snowball's chance that this development will ever be built, especially in the wake the announcement of the Hunt buildings in Victory Park.

What was this? Whatever it is, damn it’d be a dream to have this + the full Hunt Realty project...

clcrash19 · Post by **clcrash19** » 09 Feb 2021 18:32

https://gm1.ggpht.com/pupGuS5-KO7o2YlLc ... -ft-l75-ft

Updated rendering for Victory Center?

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 09 Feb 2021 21:49

I would love to see Victory Center finally get built. That lot looks so out of place now with everything developed around it.

Austin55 · Post by **Austin55** » 09 Feb 2021 22:46

clcrash19 wrote:https://gm1.ggpht.com/pupGuS5-KO7o2YlLc ... -ft-l75-ft

Updated rendering for Victory Center?

I get a broken link. Anyone else?

I snapped a quick pic of The Victor this weekend.

Kelley USA · Post by **Kelley USA** » 10 Feb 2021 10:06

Yep, broken link here too...

clcrash19 · Post by **clcrash19** » 10 Feb 2021 10:48

Kelley USA wrote:Yep, broken link here too...

IMG-9060.jpg

Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 10 Feb 2021 11:26

WTF is that grotesque abomination of a garage on that rendering? Hines went from "well done" in making the Victor garage to "let's half ass it".

Post by **Tnexster** » 10 Feb 2021 11:39

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:WTF is that grotesque abomination of a garage on that rendering? Hines went from "well done" in making the Victor garage to "let's half ass it".

Oh that building is still being planned? Would be better if they buried the garage or at least moved it under the tower and left the land next to it for some park/green space. Just my opinion.

kingpin · Post by **kingpin** » 10 Feb 2021 12:08

victorycenterdallas.com

Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 10 Feb 2021 12:45

I suppose they don't care because it faces I-35. I'll say this though,
I35 is nothing but ugly garages. Funny how "Highway Architecture" the one thing we thought Dallas did well isn't som much the case

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 10 Feb 2021 14:13

R1070 wrote:I would love to see Victory Center finally get built. That lot looks so out of place now with everything developed around it.

Is this building still in the works or has it been shelved? Anyone know?

Post by **cowboyeagle05** » 10 Feb 2021 15:22

I'm sure if someone shows up and is willing to lease space sure they will move ahead but not until they sign on the dotted line. Projects without for sure main tenants are not likely. Demand for office space is in sharp decline due to Covid. Certain projects will start like maybe the Trammel Crow one on McKinney Ave but all you have to do is look at the Central Market store/office/hotel as one of the many indicators as well as lots of space in Dallas is now up for sublease like Ubers sort of second HQ in Deep Ellum. Office projects will be quiet for awhile while the office market figures out how much of the workforce will be coming back in to work. Many office tenants are still planning on reducing space requirements so they can just have employees come in for bi weekly office visits and keeping the rest at home. The Vaccine is nice but its not working fast enough leaving politics aside and with the number of COVID mutations scientists are still unsure if all these vaccines will stop it from having a continuing affect on the workforce environment.

Post by **undefinedprocess** » 10 Feb 2021 16:28

What are everyone's thoughts on mixed-use buildings, similar to what One NewPark is supposed to be (really hope that building & the rest of NewPark happens, by the way). Anyways, I feel like actual mixed-use buildings could be great for Victory Park (and the rest of Downtown). Wonder if the Victory Center could be reworked into a mix of residential, office, and maybe ground-floor retail/dining?

Maybe that could make it a little more feasible in a COVID/post COVID world? I don't know, just my thoughts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Post by **undefinedprocess** » 10 Feb 2021 16:36

rono3849 wrote:Brewery-Site_-View-01_website.jpg

I guess there's a snowball's chance that this development will ever be built, especially in the wake the announcement of the Hunt buildings in Victory Park.

Bumping this... Does anyone know what this was supposed to be?

Zmitz · Post by **Zmitz** » 10 Feb 2021 18:00

"BOKA Powell was engaged in a design competition for a high-profile mixed-use site at the apex of Woodall Rogers and IH-35 in Dallas, formerly occupied by a brewery. The developer’s ambitious plan includes a high-rise condo and apartment development with street-level retail and a host of amenities, including a pool deck offering front-row views of downtown Dallas."

I believe it was an all residential tower. Would be nice to have more residential in this area.

Post by **undefinedprocess** » 10 Feb 2021 23:12

Zmitz wrote:"BOKA Powell was engaged in a design competition for a high-profile mixed-use site at the apex of Woodall Rogers and IH-35 in Dallas, formerly occupied by a brewery. The developer’s ambitious plan includes a high-rise condo and apartment development with street-level retail and a host of amenities, including a pool deck offering front-row views of downtown Dallas."

I believe it was an all residential tower. Would be nice to have more residential in this area.

Agreed.

Tucy · Post by **Tucy** » 11 Feb 2021 08:58

Zmitz wrote:"BOKA Powell was engaged in a design competition for a high-profile mixed-use site at the apex of Woodall Rogers and IH-35 in Dallas, formerly occupied by a brewery. .

At the apex of Woodall Rogers and IH-35???? LOL

I45Tex · Post by **I45Tex** » 11 Feb 2021 11:34

The apex of decibels from 24-hour interstate travel, and the daily apex of an ingestible fog of burned fume particulates including hydrocarbons and brake pads. Wouldn't even want to walk my dog there, let alone live there, and I imagine many Texans still don't realize why the worst part of cutting a freeway through an urban neighborhood is what it continues to do in citizens' bodies -- even worse than what it did/does to walkability, pleasure, connection and future potential.

clcrash19 · Post by **clcrash19** » 25 Feb 2021 14:49

Activity today bulldozing the site with the PNC bank across from the rolex buidling

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 25 Feb 2021 21:13

clcrash19 wrote:Activity today bulldozing the site with the PNC bank across from the rolex buidling

I think this will be good for that little plot of land.

ajderry2017 · Post by **ajderry2017** » 25 Feb 2021 22:35

clcrash19 wrote:Activity today bulldozing the site with the PNC bank across from the rolex buidling

By the Rolex building? Correct me if I’m wrong, but is this related to Harwood No. 12? “Uptown’s tallest tower?”

Post by **Tnexster** » 25 Feb 2021 22:52

clcrash19 wrote:Activity today bulldozing the site with the PNC bank across from the rolex buidling

Where is the PNC Bank? Are we talking Victory or Harwood? If it is across the street from Rolex that sounds like Harwood but have to admit I am not sure where the bank is.