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Postby R1070 » 01 Mar 2020 14:34

LOL...perfect!

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Postby CaptainJilliams » 02 Mar 2020 10:45

Any update on when this one is going to finally come down?

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Postby skeets » 02 Mar 2020 15:36

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Postby DPatel304 » 02 Mar 2020 15:44

Haha.. well that was certainly fun while it lasted. I'm really hoping the developer does find some way to incorporate this into their future development though.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 03 Mar 2020 12:20

Like I said before the whole fiasco started the developer will have pictures and artwork done up maybe even a piece of the tear down will be turned into sculpture. Mind you by then it will be a distant memory. The News cycle was quite serious with all the CoronaVirus news and Trump stuff that this story blew up cause it was a distraction from the doom and gloom. Any other day and it would have not been as big of a deal.
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Postby quixomniac » 16 Aug 2020 21:50

Urbandreamer wrote:https://kluv.radio.com/blogs/sybil/the-leaning-tower-of-dallas-former-site-becomes-a-theater

Opening in 10 days!


How dare they desecrate our holy land. :lol:
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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 17 Aug 2020 10:45

You mean the 2020 warning tower...that tower predicted the year so far and the length it took to finally come down.
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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 17 Aug 2020 11:47

cowboyeagle05 wrote:You mean the 2020 warning tower...that tower predicted the year so far and the length it took to finally come down.


The Omen tower?!

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Postby Tnexster » 28 Aug 2020 16:54

De La Vega Development takes $2.5B mixed-use project The Central back to the drawing board

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... pdate.html

"We’re in the design process and are working with the city on documents for two high-rise towers. We had to scrap the last phase, which was already designed, as we have different partners and a different deal structure now," De La Vega said Wednesday.


The redesign is expected to include elements found in the original plans, in addition to changes relevant to a post-COVID-19 world. While the new plans will still include high-rise office and residential, retail and a public park, De La Vega said some of the buildings are being redesigned to include better air filtration systems, touchless technology and more natural light. He also emphasized a focus on health and wellness, starting with a proposed four-acre public park.

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Postby rono3849 » 28 Aug 2020 19:54

I think this entire project is a pipe dream. They may get one or two 10-story buildings, but that's about it. Eventually, I see mid-rise apartment buildings littering most of the site.

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Postby R1070 » 28 Aug 2020 20:36

ANYTHING urban-ish is better than that Sam’s club proposal.

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Postby dallaz » 28 Aug 2020 20:39

R1070 wrote:ANYTHING urban-ish is better than that Sam’s club proposal.

Facts

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 28 Aug 2020 21:35

rono3849 wrote:I think this entire project is a pipe dream. They may get one or two 10-story buildings, but that's about it. Eventually, I see mid-rise apartment buildings littering most of the site.

That's honestly the best thing that could happen at this point. I wouldn't be mad at all if that happen.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 29 Aug 2020 10:42

Leasing of the office tower is being handled by JLL. De La Vega is hoping an anchor tenant will be secured before the project is ready to break ground.

"Otherwise, it would be difficult to finance," he said.


This is the key point many of us already know but nice to see it written out in plain language. If he doesn't sign a lead tenant he will probably start selling off the land or be like Spire and just sit on the land for a decade hoping something pops up. His only advantage I would say is that by offering a project with more health and safety features related to the spread of COVID he could snag someone looking to make a splash by moving staff to a new "state of the art" facility. Even with a vaccine, it will take years to eliminate the fear completely and that is if it COVID-19 doesn't evolve making the vaccine useless.
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Postby zblevinz555 » 27 Feb 2021 04:12

https://inewhomes.com/the-central-phase-one-complex

Can anyone confirm a groundbreaking on this site. Apparently a residential component (17 story high rise) is under construction.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 27 Feb 2021 08:25

zblevinz555 wrote:https://inewhomes.com/the-central-phase-one-complex

Can anyone confirm a groundbreaking on this site. Apparently a residential component (17 story high rise) is under construction.


This interesting. Originally, the plan called for the following:

"Plans for the first phase of The Central include a 17-story office building, a 320-unit apartment high-rise, a 430-unit apartment project by JPI, a 300-room full-service hotel and a 150-room limited-service hotel. There will also be 110,000 square feet of eateries and entertainment space"

http://www.bokapowell.com/15795-2/

What's interesting now is that 17 story component is now all residential. Also, important to note that JPI announced in August 2020 that they were going to go big in 2021 in DFW. The link you posted also shows 700+ units in the 17 story tower. It makes me think that these, or at least some of them, won't be large luxurious apartments..which goes in line with what JPI said in the latter parts of last year.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... -star.html

I don't think construction has started. You may have found an inadvertent announcement.

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Postby LPG » 27 Feb 2021 08:34

zblevinz555 wrote:https://inewhomes.com/the-central-phase-one-complex

Can anyone confirm a groundbreaking on this site. Apparently a residential component (17 story high rise) is under construction.


I haven’t been through there in a few weeks, but there is definitely a long, low slung Dallas donut that is decently far along. This may be underway, but I’m not sure. I was pretty surprised to see the progress on the aforementioned complex itself.

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Postby Tucy » 27 Feb 2021 08:42

I think it may be more of "confused" "announcement." 750 apartments in a 17 story building seems unlikely. I don't know what that site is, but it looks like they may have cobbled together a set of random statements from the developer's earlier description of their first phase and created a useless mess.

17 stories is in the description of phase 1 (but for an office building) as is a total of 750 apartments (but in two separate buildings/developments).

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 27 Feb 2021 13:43

Tucy wrote:I think it may be more of "confused" "announcement." 750 apartments in a 17 story building seems unlikely. I don't know what that site is, but it looks like they may have cobbled together a set of random statements from the developer's earlier description of their first phase and created a useless mess.

17 stories is in the description of phase 1 (but for an office building) as is a total of 750 apartments (but in two separate buildings/developments).


You maybe right. But JPI was listed as a partner. And JPI only does multifamily. So it makes it even more confusing...

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Postby undefinedprocess » 27 Feb 2021 14:09

Really want all of this to get off the ground…

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Postby Tucy » 27 Feb 2021 15:34

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
Tucy wrote:I think it may be more of "confused" "announcement." 750 apartments in a 17 story building seems unlikely. I don't know what that site is, but it looks like they may have cobbled together a set of random statements from the developer's earlier description of their first phase and created a useless mess.

17 stories is in the description of phase 1 (but for an office building) as is a total of 750 apartments (but in two separate buildings/developments).


You maybe right. But JPI was listed as a partner. And JPI only does multifamily. So it makes it even more confusing...


JPI is building the doughnut apartment complex that is apparently under construction (430 of the 750 units that were supposed to be delivered in phase 1.

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Postby zblevinz555 » 28 Feb 2021 00:58

Jus think if there was no pandemic the amount cranes in the sky there would be right now. high rise projects going up left and right with those projects completing in roughly 2 to 3 years I’m guessing on average. I hope everything will bounce back and we see a flurry of cranes popping up in the coming months. I’ve heard there will be big changes with projects getting underway in 2021 but I’m not holding my breath

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Postby undefinedprocess » 28 Feb 2021 18:27

zblevinz555 wrote:Jus think if there was no pandemic the amount cranes in the sky there would be right now. high rise projects going up left and right with those projects completing in roughly 2 to 3 years I’m guessing on average. I hope everything will bounce back and we see a flurry of cranes popping up in the coming months. I’ve heard there will be big changes with projects getting underway in 2021 but I’m not holding my breath

Have thought about it every day for the last year… :(

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Postby Hannibal Lecter » 02 Mar 2021 11:10

Developers reboot plans for huge project north of downtown Dallas

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... wn-dallas/

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 02 Mar 2021 12:04

So nothing really has changed?...

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Postby Tucy » 02 Mar 2021 12:08

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:So nothing really has changed?...


LOL Yeah, I couldn't detect any changes. Classic example of Steve Brown's development puffing service.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 02 Mar 2021 12:31

Tucy wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:So nothing really has changed?...


LOL Yeah, I couldn't detect any changes. Classic example of Steve Brown's development puffing service.

He gotta meet his quota of development "news". If there's no new stories or updates..Refabricate an existing story!

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Postby Tucy » 02 Mar 2021 12:35

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
Tucy wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:So nothing really has changed?...


LOL Yeah, I couldn't detect any changes. Classic example of Steve Brown's development puffing service.

He gotta meet his quota of development "news". If there's no new stories or updates..Refabricate an existing story!


Right... and call it a "reboot". :shock:

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Postby Tnexster » 02 Mar 2021 13:35

There was more update news on DDI's annual meeting event today than any of these Steve stories.

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Postby undefinedprocess » 02 Mar 2021 14:23

Tnexster wrote:There was more update news on DDI's annual meeting event today than any of these Steve stories.

I got pulled into a meeting and missed this… :( Know if it was recorded?

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Postby Tnexster » 02 Mar 2021 15:12

undefinedprocess wrote:
Tnexster wrote:There was more update news on DDI's annual meeting event today than any of these Steve stories.

I got pulled into a meeting and missed this… :( Know if it was recorded?


I believe it was but I need to go back and find it again, check the link they sent you.

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Postby Tucy » 02 Mar 2021 15:16

undefinedprocess wrote:
Tnexster wrote:There was more update news on DDI's annual meeting event today than any of these Steve stories.

I got pulled into a meeting and missed this… :( Know if it was recorded?


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Postby CTroyMathis » 03 Mar 2021 11:23

Meanwhile, here's an LOL while it lasts online assuming they eventually realize their mistake:
https://rebusinessonline.com/de-la-vega ... in-dallas/

Dallas-based De La Vega Development is nearing completion of Phase I of The Central. . .

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Postby Tnexster » 10 Mar 2021 14:54

Apartment developer, retail brokerage join The Central in Dallas

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... ntial.html

Dallas-based StreetLights Residential has joined the project and will be developing its first high-rise apartment complex. The 18-story high-rise will include 350 apartment units. JPI is already developing another apartment complex to the north of the development, which will bring 430 units to the area.

Along with StreetLights, Dallas-based Falcon Realty Advisors has been selected to market and lease the project's retail and restaurant space. About 29,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space will be built as part of the project's first phase.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 10 Mar 2021 15:59

Well, thats a good sign except I doubt Streetlights highrise will be as nice looking as the concept renderings we have seen previously. Prepare for this project to be very piecemeal rather than a truly unified coordinated project. Since apartment rental developments are still such a strong market even in the pandemic the lead developer is easily able to just sell off parcels to these rental unit developers and wait around for office tenants to show interest. After all, this developer doesn't have a proven enough track record to pull off such a large project so having residential already filling in some parcels gets some movement while proving the project can move forward if a big tenant signs onto a proposed office high rise. There is very few big fish that will sign on just because you have control over such a valuable parcel they want the KDC's of the world to be involved so they know what they are getting will get done.
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Postby R1070 » 10 Mar 2021 21:17

I have positive feelings about this development though.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 11 Mar 2021 12:57

Which is the best way to feel about it.^
Hope for the best prepare for the worst. In this project's case, the worst was already defeated when the surrounding land was planned for a Sam's Club and that project was sent to the curb. Any highrise residential is a welcome sight here.
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Postby eburress » 11 Mar 2021 13:54

Absolutely! The apartments being built already make this a success compared to that Sam's Club.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 11 Mar 2021 20:10

So the JPI and Street light development would make up the 700+ Apartments listed in the description? That alone make it's better than anything previously proposed on this site.

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Postby willyk » 13 Mar 2021 04:01

The JPI project looks like a stick wrap, but it’s encouraging to see that Street Lights will have some height.

https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/us/jefferson-central

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 13 Mar 2021 10:42

I'm so tired of stucco..and idk what it is... But I've yet see decent stucco apartments in this city

We don't know how execute the style properly and the stucco quality looks cheap

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