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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby Tnexster » 17 May 2018 18:44

dfwcre8tive wrote:
Tnexster wrote:Does anybody know if they have any plans to clean up the water in the fountains so it doesn't look brown?


Thanks-Giving Square just received a matching grant for landscape improvements, which I believe will help repair all the fountains. Are you talking about the large cascade and grove water wall (which have been repaired), or the stagnant/empty pools that have yet to be fixed?


The large cascading fountain near the chapel, thats the one that I think looks so dirty, even the water coming out of of the pool on the top looks dirty. Maybe there is nothing they can do about it but it would look so much better if the water were just clean.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby xen0blue » 17 May 2018 20:09

They need to level this park and remove the walls if anyone is going to visit. It's horrible the way it is.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 18 May 2018 08:38

xen0blue wrote:They need to level this park and remove the walls if anyone is going to visit. It's horrible the way it is.


It will be carefully modified so as not to ruin its architectural significance and its ultimate purpose which is to provide space for reflection and event space for the Thanksgiving Foundation. It is not a city park and I am fine with it not being one. Is it a public space yep but a city park no.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby mdg109 » 09 Sep 2018 15:32

I always try to be optimistic about this space, but it just seems like it's falling apart. I worry about all the parks being built/planned for Dallas if they're not going to be managed correctly.
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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 10 Sep 2018 10:14

This is a private park in many ways and they are in the middle of trying to get all their new dots in a row for a redo. It has some unique challenges and deep history that can slow down progress immensely.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby dfwcre8tive » 11 Sep 2018 20:27

mdg109 wrote:I always try to be optimistic about this space, but it just seems like it's falling apart. I worry about all the parks being built/planned for Dallas if they're not going to be managed correctly.


That end of the Square is going through a revamp. All of the landscaping at the tip of the triangle has been removed and the sign pedestals are being relocated; a neighborhood beautification grant from DDI will help clean it up. Eventually this area will be re-envisioned since it's outside of the "historic" portion of the Square. It could end up being a glass box cafe, visitor center, etc.

A few other summer updates:

- The dog relief area was removed and gravel replaced with new sod.
- New landscaping groundcover was planted on slopes to mitigate soil runoff.
- Dogs will be prohibited from entering the garden starting in October.
- Entry gates are now closed after hours to help with security.
- The chiller system broke in May so the inside has been without air conditioning all summer. There's an appeal to raise $151,000 required for the replacement machinery which will be installed in October. Please donate if you feel inclined. This unexpected expense has put a strain on the Foundation's lean operating budget.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby mdg109 » 12 Sep 2018 12:21

Thanks for the update. I went back this week to check out the park portion of the square, and it was pretty nice and clean.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 12 Sep 2018 14:24

It will take a long time to catch up on the maintenance of the square. They have had to stop the bleeding firsts before being able to do serious surgery to the preexisting design.

DFWcre8tive we look forward to continuing updates on the stuff we can not see as well as the things we can.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby dfwcre8tive » 23 Sep 2018 13:01

No more dogs after October 15th, which will help restore some of the garden.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby itsjrd1964 » 23 Sep 2018 17:20

dfwcre8tive wrote:No more dogs after October 15th, which will help restore some of the garden.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 4009642963


Oh boy, there'll be a few folks at the LTV that will have to put their good walking shoes on, then. Not sure where they and their furry friends will go.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby LongonBigD » 23 Sep 2018 19:36

dfwcre8tive wrote:No more dogs after October 15th, which will help restore some of the garden.


Uh-huh. And who exactly is going to enforce this? We’re talking about those who already ignore rules and common courtesy of picking up after so what’s another little sign gonna do?

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby tamtagon » 23 Sep 2018 19:50

$25 fine for every infraction.

LTV is a big complex, they should provide a dog park.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby itsjrd1964 » 23 Sep 2018 23:29

tamtagon wrote:LTV is a big complex, they should provide a dog park.


I think the only "outdoor" part of the building is up on the roof where the pool is; I don't think they have a doggie area up there. Should be interesting, though, what they'll do. There are quite a few furry friends in the building, so I've heard. Hopefully Thanks-Giving will have more green grass (and less poop) to give thanks over in the future.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 24 Sep 2018 08:46

Last I checked LTV had two outdoor areas. Poolside on Elm and Pacific side was artificial turf, good side for a dog area.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby lakewoodhobo » 24 Sep 2018 10:09

I always assumed that the turf they added to the Pacific side was a dog park, but I guess it's not. It doesn't seem to have a fence or anything around it, but no reason why they can't put one in.

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cowboyeagle05 wrote:Last I checked LTV had two outdoor areas. Poolside on Elm and Pacific side was artificial turf, good side for a dog area.


Three outdoor areas if you count the rooftop pool and deck for residents. The pool on the Elm side is for hotel guests.
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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby itsjrd1964 » 24 Sep 2018 15:44

The green area on the Pacific side is only accessible through the hotel meeting room areas. It was bare concrete when the hotel opened a few years ago. It took a little bit for them to hire equipment to get the turf up there to roll it out and get it into place. I don't know if the hotel allows any outdoor receptions there or if it's solely an aesthetic thing so people attending meetings don't look out the window and see parched concrete. As for the hotel pool area, there is a doorway from an interior common area which is the access to the pool there. The locks are set to secure after 10pm so no one is allowed out there (young whippersnappers messed it up for everyone else I guess) overnight.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby mdg109 » 19 Dec 2018 12:39

Checked out TGS a couple nights ago. The new landscaping looks really good. Everything looked really clean. I'll try to stop by during the day over the weekend and get some pictures.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby dfwcre8tive » 19 Dec 2018 18:53

mdg109 wrote:Checked out TGS a couple nights ago. The new landscaping looks really good. Everything looked really clean. I'll try to stop by during the day over the weekend and get some pictures.


The goal/focus over for 2018 has been "green and clean," repairing all the fountains and getting the landscaping issues under control. I'm glad you noticed; please share photos.

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Also don't miss the 41st annual Merry TUBACHRISTMAS concert on the 24th. Link: https://www.facebook.com/events/1387234438076068/

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 20 Dec 2018 21:00

I love a healthy dose of prairie grasses blowing in the wind. Thank goodness everyone can see progress. It's hard to convince people who don't follow the forum that something is being done but its gonna take time.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby itsjrd1964 » 21 Dec 2018 02:25

Just had a quick walk-through earlier this week. *Much* better with the grass additions. Looking forward to whatever improvements are to come.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby Tnexster » 21 Dec 2018 09:15

Have been noticing the fresh grass, refurbished fountains and such but had not seen the far west side...looks so much better.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 21 Dec 2018 15:25

Wow I'll have to see this in person

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby dfwcre8tive » 10 Jan 2019 19:15

A couple of upcoming events.

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Link: https://www.facebook.com/events/337650837085375/

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Link: https://www.facebook.com/events/268037403874012/

Also for those interested, the history and architecture exhibit that was developed for Thanks-Giving Square last year will be on display in the J Erik Jonsson Central Library (4th Floor) through the end of February starting the week of 01/14. It includes photos, architectural models and other artifacts.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby mdg109 » 03 Feb 2019 11:54

Visited TGS yesterday morning and was really impressed. It was spotless. A really pleasant experience. As I left, several groups of people came in to explore.
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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 03 Feb 2019 11:58

Some paint is needed

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby Tnexster » 03 Feb 2019 12:25

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Some paint is needed


It's come a long way in the past year but I agree some paint would help top it off. Maybe they are waiting to do that last. Hope so.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby ArtVandelay » 04 Feb 2019 07:43

Banning the dogs was one of the best decisions they could have made.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby dfwcre8tive » 05 Feb 2019 13:29

Tnexster wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Some paint is needed


It's come a long way in the past year but I agree some paint would help top it off. Maybe they are waiting to do that last. Hope so.


Do you mean cleaning the surface of the chapel? It's poured-in-place white marble aggregate and not paint, and it does need to be cleaned/restored. There are some areas at the base where white paint was used as a patch and it's obvious that it doesn't match.

Agree that banning dogs has made a significant improvement.

You'll see some landscape improvements at the Ervay entrances next followed by visitor experience improvements (public artwork, signage, plans to reopen the Hall to visitors, etc). I was in town over the weekend and volunteers helped remove outdated exhibits inside the Hall.

Our rejuvenation task force just completed its first year of information gathering and will soon be engaging with architects to formalize the long-term master plan for restoration.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 05 Feb 2019 14:05

^ Great news!

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Postby dfwcre8tive » 16 Jul 2019 13:14

Last week The Thanks-Giving Foundation conducted a design charrette to discuss opportunities within the upcoming rejuvenation plan. It was an exciting and intense working session involving a large group of architects and stakeholders (including Alan Ritchie from PJAR Architects in NYC). The conversation centered around preservation/renovation of the garden space within the walls and improved connections/activation of the areas surrounding the walls (and underground). You'll start to see more about that vision leading up to a capital campaign. Here are a few "behind the scenes" photos.

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Also, the garden area looks better than it has in years. All fountains are operational (including indoor fountains) and the grass/landscape improvements have made it a more contemplative green space. There are still obvious infrastructure/aging issues to be addressed in the future.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby mdg109 » 16 Jul 2019 17:39

This is awesome. Thanks for the update!

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 16 Jul 2019 22:29

Great news. Thanks!

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 17 Jul 2019 09:33

Looks fabulous! I look forward to seeing the evolution of the vision of Thanksgiving Square.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby Thymant » 17 Jul 2019 11:02

That's interesting to know! I visited the square a few months ago and was wondering what all the complaints were about as it looked nice to me. Little did I know it just had some work done.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby dfwcre8tive » 06 Aug 2019 01:28

There's a call to artists for an upcoming mural project at Thanks-Giving Square. This project will cover a large portion of one concrete wall with a temporary mural installation. Please pass this information on to any interested artists.

https://www.thanksgiving.org/2019/08/05 ... proposals/

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Re: Downtown Dallas: Thanks-Giving Square

Postby dfwcre8tive » 27 Oct 2019 20:49

New mural coming soon. The artist will paint a large piece throughout November (the month of gratitude).

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