exelone31 wrote:I'm sure this is mentioned in plans somewhere, but is the North Lake station planned to be within walking/scootering distance of Cypress Waters? I've seen maps that mention a Cypress Waters alternative, but that seems to be a pretty compelling spot to have a station.
muncien wrote:exelone31 wrote:I'm sure this is mentioned in plans somewhere, but is the North Lake station planned to be within walking/scootering distance of Cypress Waters? I've seen maps that mention a Cypress Waters alternative, but that seems to be a pretty compelling spot to have a station.
If I remember correctly, Billingsly has agreed to kick in money to pay for the track diversion to put a station on Cypress Waters (and Dallas) property. That said, it would be a later phase of Cypress Waters and not by the development going on today. They are all going to be connected by trails along the lake, so it's not difficult for scooter/bike usage. It should also be walkable due to the pedestrian friendly streets incorporated into Cypress Waters, but the distance will likely limit who will actually walk.
TNWE wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Billingsly set up a free circulator shuttle like what KDC did at CityLine.
As far as I remember, most public discussions mentioned the line as double-tracked, and it actually caught me off guard a little bit that they had to officially make it fully double-tracked afterwards instead of being the default.
Matt777 wrote:How much extra is double tracking going to add to the cost of this epic boondoggle?
If they're going to be spending all this extra money to bring a 3rd rail line to DFW Airport, I would like to see a plan to integrate the 3 lines into one central station at DFW, and then buses from each terminal to "DFW Airport Central Rail Station." Users could get info and buy tickets from one station and then enter a numbered platform area like the ones in other parts of the globe.
muncien wrote:Matt777 wrote:How much extra is double tracking going to add to the cost of this epic boondoggle?
If they're going to be spending all this extra money to bring a 3rd rail line to DFW Airport, I would like to see a plan to integrate the 3 lines into one central station at DFW, and then buses from each terminal to "DFW Airport Central Rail Station." Users could get info and buy tickets from one station and then enter a numbered platform area like the ones in other parts of the globe.
Isn't that the plan? I mean, unless you call that short walk between DART and Texrail significant enough to make them two stations. Or, are they now talking about stopping Cotton Belt at the DFW 'North' station? Maybe I missed that update...
How much extra is double tracking going to add to the cost of this epic boondoggle?
muncien wrote:Matt777 wrote:How much extra is double tracking going to add to the cost of this epic boondoggle?
If they're going to be spending all this extra money to bring a 3rd rail line to DFW Airport, I would like to see a plan to integrate the 3 lines into one central station at DFW, and then buses from each terminal to "DFW Airport Central Rail Station." Users could get info and buy tickets from one station and then enter a numbered platform area like the ones in other parts of the globe.
Isn't that the plan? I mean, unless you call that short walk between DART and Texrail significant enough to make them two stations. Or, are they now talking about stopping Cotton Belt at the DFW 'North' station? Maybe I missed that update...
Redblock wrote:When DART was planning the Orange Line they allowed for a diverging route from the current line between Belt Line and DFW stations to allow half the trains to stop at the North DFW Station. They even built two double track junctions into the Orange Line for construction of this second route.
I do not know if this plan is still around, but it would make North DFW Station a 'union station' for the 3 lines.
jeffbrown2002 wrote:So it looks like the Cotton Belt will be getting a color designation after all to better align it with DART's other rail services. Apparently it's going to be called the "Silver Line" complete with special branding and custom logo. Seems like a good compromise between having a completely different naming convention like the TRE and being just another color line, and it fits considering the line appears to be envisioned as something in between commuter rail and rapid transit.
Silver Line 1.pngSilver Line 2.pngSilver Line 3.pngSilver Line 4.png
https://www.dart.org/about/board/boardagendas/communicationitem5_26feb19.pdf
cowboyeagle05 wrote:Keep in mind the logo for this line will diminish after it opens. While this line isn't the Green, Blue, Orange and/or Red lines, which don't really have logos, the initial promotion of the opening of new lines tends to create this kind of need for brand awareness. They will put up posters, TV ads etc when they promote its opening but I doubt after a year being open it will show up on more than a few brochures at the Airport and suburban visitor centers. Sure this one is separate because unlike the others it's not going Downtown but I doubt the branding will last very long.
The_Overdog wrote:They should have saved the SilverLine designation for a train that ran up US75 to that casino just across the Oklahoma border.
Redblock wrote:DART has ordered 8 FLIRT Emus from Stadler.
https://www.dart.org/news/news.asp?ID=1402
electricron wrote:Redblock wrote:DART has ordered 8 FLIRT Emus from Stadler.
https://www.dart.org/news/news.asp?ID=1402
They will be DMUs, not EMUs.
Redblock wrote:electricron wrote:Redblock wrote:DART has ordered 8 FLIRT Emus from Stadler.
https://www.dart.org/news/news.asp?ID=1402
They will be DMUs, not EMUs.
Of course you are right and I knew that. I don't know if that was my bad typing or auto-cottect.
itsjrd1964 wrote:That auto-cottect, it's a killer....
Alex Rodriguez wrote:https://www.dart.org/news/news.asp?ID=1405
"At DFW Airport, the project will connect to the TEXRail Regional Rail Line to Fort Worth and provide access to the DFW Airport Skylink. The Silver Line will interface with three DART light rail lines: The Red/Orange Lines in Richardson/Plano, the Green Line in Carrollton and the Orange Line at DFW Airport."
Couple of questions: 1) Is the Orange Line Phase 2 to DFW North station still a thing or did it get permanently cancelled. I know they built the stub out for it, but wasnt' sure if it was still in the plans. 2) What is the interface look like between Terminal A station and Terminal B station? Is there a DART shuttle that goes back and forth between the two and what is the frequency?
Thanks.
Alex Rodriguez wrote: 1) Is the Orange Line Phase 2 to DFW North station still a thing or did it get permanently cancelled. I know they built the stub out for it, but wasnt' sure if it was still in the plans.
Tucy wrote:Alex Rodriguez wrote:https://www.dart.org/news/news.asp?ID=1405
"At DFW Airport, the project will connect to the TEXRail Regional Rail Line to Fort Worth and provide access to the DFW Airport Skylink. The Silver Line will interface with three DART light rail lines: The Red/Orange Lines in Richardson/Plano, the Green Line in Carrollton and the Orange Line at DFW Airport."
Couple of questions: 1) Is the Orange Line Phase 2 to DFW North station still a thing or did it get permanently cancelled. I know they built the stub out for it, but wasnt' sure if it was still in the plans. 2) What is the interface look like between Terminal A station and Terminal B station? Is there a DART shuttle that goes back and forth between the two and what is the frequency?
Thanks.
I believe the "interface" looks a lot like a sidewalk.
Redblock wrote:On the Orange Line, the Carpenter Ranch Station is now called Hidden Ridge Station.
https://www.dart.org/news/news.asp?ID=1389
Tucy wrote:Alex Rodriguez wrote:https://www.dart.org/news/news.asp?ID=1405
"At DFW Airport, the project will connect to the TEXRail Regional Rail Line to Fort Worth and provide access to the DFW Airport Skylink. The Silver Line will interface with three DART light rail lines: The Red/Orange Lines in Richardson/Plano, the Green Line in Carrollton and the Orange Line at DFW Airport."
Couple of questions: 1) Is the Orange Line Phase 2 to DFW North station still a thing or did it get permanently cancelled. I know they built the stub out for it, but wasnt' sure if it was still in the plans. 2) What is the interface look like between Terminal A station and Terminal B station? Is there a DART shuttle that goes back and forth between the two and what is the frequency?
Thanks.
I believe the "interface" looks a lot like a sidewalk.
TNWE wrote:And takes all of about 5 minutes to traverse. There are also awnings and space for bus stops, although nothing stops there now except for service interruption buses. It would be nice if they could have stops for direct shuttles to Terminals C, D, and E, rather than relying on the current Terminal Link system, but there's just not the demand right now.
northsouth wrote:https://www.dart.org/ShareRoot/about/expansion/cottonbelt/DARTCottonBeltMeeting22jul19.pdf
Looks like they've scaled down the station designs to something more reasonable than the ones described in the EIS.
bachmanlad wrote:TNWE wrote:And takes all of about 5 minutes to traverse. There are also awnings and space for bus stops, although nothing stops there now except for service interruption buses. It would be nice if they could have stops for direct shuttles to Terminals C, D, and E, rather than relying on the current Terminal Link system, but there's just not the demand right now.
It's quite a pleasant walk as long as it's not boiling or freezing out. The sidewalks are covered and nicely landscaped.
In the oldest concept art, the two platforms are even with one another (instead of Terminal B Station being a little farther south) and the walkway cuts cleanly through the middle instead of doing the awkward U-shaped loop around the north ends of the platforms it does now. I think they ended up doing it the way they did because of the bus stop there. There would have to have been walkways to the bus stop anyway, and cutting a trench for another, more direct, walkway in the middle of the platforms would have been an extra expense.
Rebranding them as a single station would simplify system maps and I am all for it, but it would be a little misleading for transfers because of the walk time from tracks 1-2 to tracks 2-4. Then again, that wouldn't be an issue as long as DART and T-Metro coordinated their schedules to account for it, which they should be doing anyway.
I never bother with the Terminal Link buses at all if I can avoid them. I just go through security right at Terminal A, then take Skylink to wherever my gate is - it's faster, more reliable, and more frequent than the buses.northsouth wrote:https://www.dart.org/ShareRoot/about/expansion/cottonbelt/DARTCottonBeltMeeting22jul19.pdf
Looks like they've scaled down the station designs to something more reasonable than the ones described in the EIS.
I like it. It doesn't look quite as nice as the cottony designs in the EIS did, but the "DART rail station, but sleek and silvery" look is a great fit for the new brand. More importantly, it'll do a much better job of keeping the sun/rain/sleet off.
DART breaks ground on Silver Line along the old Cotton Belt corridor
The plan is to have the Silver Line operating in three years.
DPatel304 wrote:DART breaks ground on Silver Line along the old Cotton Belt corridor
The plan is to have the Silver Line operating in three years.
https://www.fox4news.com/news/dart-brea ... t-corridor
I had no idea we were so close to ground breaking on this project. Truthfully I had kinda shut out most information regarding this as I'm not fully in support of it, and I figured it was still going to be a ways off.
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