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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 20 Mar 2019 10:38

And so.... after demolition then what? An empty lot for another 10-15 years? This developer has not instilled any confidence that this project will ever come to fruition.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby eburress » 20 Mar 2019 12:23

That would be a bummer but the demolition will be an improvement over the post-apocalyptic scene which is there now. And maybe if its development comes in the form of a number of smaller projects, rather than the original mega project, the likelihood of it sitting empty for 10-15 years won't be as great.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby Cbdallas » 20 Mar 2019 16:07

There is a lot happening around the general Galleria area so I think with this demolished and the area around this growing it will become more lucrative for this development. Also has great connection to both airports with LBJ and the Tollway right there which is important for big companies.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby exelone31 » 20 Mar 2019 16:40

Cbdallas wrote:There is a lot happening around the general Galleria area so I think with this demolished and the area around this growing it will become more lucrative for this development. Also has great connection to both airports with LBJ and the Tollway right there which is important for big companies.


Agreed, it's interesting how much ancillary development has already kicked off. The area to the west of the Valley View site will be quite a bit different regardless of whether or not the full vision of Midtown is realized.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby exelone31 » 01 Apr 2019 11:44

Quick update: Driving by this morning, it appears demolition work has started on the former JC Penney anchor space in the mall. The garage connected to that area on the north side of Valley View has been demolished, so it looks like some meaningful progress.

I have made tons of snarky comments about this development, but hopefully there is something positive in motion.

Stay tuned.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby lakewoodhobo » 01 Apr 2019 12:09

Can we assume that the original plans for Midtown are scrapped and what we'll see is a collection of different apartment buildings with some retail mixed in? Even the Dallas Midtown Park Foundation seems to have lost its nonprofit status back in 2017, so that project's status may be in question.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby bsweat1 » 03 Apr 2019 22:51

Yesterday 4-2-19. Progress is being made on the former JCPenney.Image

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby Brettoj » 26 Apr 2019 13:04

Drove by today. Looks like continued progress on the mall. Also, the KDC development area of the Sears etc. is now fenced in. It looked like they were clearing out the old sears auto center building today. Cautiously optimistic.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 26 Apr 2019 13:15

Update on the project.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Visio ... 83391.html

So according to this the original plan is still in place... Kick off for the project will be June 2017 per the story ..

It's says they're building a life time fitness village ..and a new AMC ..I would if the theatre will be a big box :/

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby exelone31 » 29 Apr 2019 11:55

I went to see Avengers at the Valley View AMC, and it was amazingly eerie walking through the mall to get to the theater. They are missing an opportunity to shoot any and all zombie shows/movies there.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby The_Overdog » 29 Apr 2019 12:11

hey are missing an opportunity to shoot any and all zombie shows/movies there.

Excuse me, but zombie movies are shot farther to the east in Garland.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby TDiddyDallas » 30 Apr 2019 07:29

The_Overdog wrote:
hey are missing an opportunity to shoot any and all zombie shows/movies there.

Excuse me, but zombie movies are shot farther to the east in Garland.


Zombieland reference!!

In all seriousness, I'm excited at the prospect of having potentially THREE (Red Bird, Valley View, and Collin Creek) major former malls get juiced up with redevelopment simultaneously. Does anyone know if that is happening anywhere else?

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby eburress » 30 Apr 2019 10:39

TDiddyDallas wrote:
The_Overdog wrote:
hey are missing an opportunity to shoot any and all zombie shows/movies there.

Excuse me, but zombie movies are shot farther to the east in Garland.


Zombieland reference!!

In all seriousness, I'm excited at the prospect of having potentially THREE (Red Bird, Valley View, and Collin Creek) major former malls get juiced up with redevelopment simultaneously. Does anyone know if that is happening anywhere else?


Maybe not simultaneously, but most of San Diego's malls have/will undergo similar redevelopments.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby tamtagon » 30 Apr 2019 12:11

I'm not aware that anything like this is happening in Metro Atlanta, could be though cuz I don't really keep up with 'it.'

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Postby muncien » 30 Apr 2019 13:43

There is another "lite' version of mall redevelopment, where malls are opened up and outdoor plazas/shopping areas are added, but no additional 'uses' are included. I saw several of these in California malls during a recent visit. I'm not sure how successful those efforts will be, but at least it's something.

While the 'full' mixed-use redevelopment approach may be more risky and complicated, I have a feeling it'll be better off in the long run.
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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby lakewoodhobo » 02 May 2019 12:48

Red-carpet demolition of the Sears building going on today.

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Also:

Life Time Bulks Up With Village Concept It's Launching Nationwide
https://product.costar.com/home/news/shared/583714952

The once-delayed redevelopment of the site of Valley View Mall in North Dallas is proceeding with a joint venture between a Dallas developer and Life Time Inc., a Minneapolis-based company known for fitness clubs. In the process, it's pushing forward on a new nationwide development model.

A concept called Life Time Village at Dallas Midtown is in the works that will add an 18-story, 400-unit luxury residential tower on a site adjacent to the mall, which is currently being demolished, as well as a Life Time Athletic Club and other amenities as developers across the country lure residents with walkable projects.

Life Time has teamed up with Scott Beck of Beck Ventures, a Dallas-based real estate firm, which has been working on plans for years for the revival of Valley View Mall. The project was held up partly because of litigation, which has since been settled, and now the 46-year-old mall is back on track for demolition to make way for a new mixed-use development.

Once construction starts, Life Time Village at Dallas Midtown will be the company's largest such endeavor to date, building on Life Time's plans to extend its brand beyond the walls of being an athletic club. Life Time is also planning similar village-like concepts in Coral Gables, Florida, near Miami and Henderson, Nevada, near Las Vegas.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby NdoorTX » 02 May 2019 12:59

Good News! It's a surprising route that gym is taking. And someone said that the KDC site was marked off? This could be exciting for the area. Lots of momentum getting started. Any insider have details on what Trademark and UBS have planned for Galleria?

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Postby exelone31 » 02 May 2019 14:50

Life Time has teamed up with Scott Beck of Beck Ventures, a Dallas-based real estate firm, which has been working on plans for years for the revival of Valley View Mall.


The word "working" being stretched so incredibly thin here.

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Postby Tnexster » 02 May 2019 16:27

Part of Dallas' Valley View mall comes down for $1 billion mixed-use project

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... se-project

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby LongonBigD » 02 May 2019 21:16

Those renderings posted on the fence (thanks for the pics) seem to come from Omniplan’s website. See more below at this link.

http://www.omniplan.com/work/case-studies/park-heritage.html

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby exelone31 » 03 May 2019 15:48

After all of the fits and starts, I really do hope this is when things begin to start taking shape. It's encouraging that the Sears site is about to get underway, in addition to demolition picking up steam on the remainder of the mall site.

A couple other random items:
- They have taken the boards off the windows of the former Steak and Shake on the north side of the mall site and it appears they are moving old equipment/chairs out. I'm not sure if they're planning to keep that little building around or just prepping it for demolition.
- There's a new restaurant on the east side of Preston (just south of Alpha) opening in the next couple weeks (https://dallas.eater.com/2019/5/3/18524251/the-market-local-comfort-cafe-opening-near-galleria-dallas). It's a cool looking Kosher spot, and I believe the building used to house a Gold/Silver exchange. It's just one spot, but maybe this could indicate a turnaround for this area?

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby exelone31 » 17 May 2019 13:56

Update: Demolition of Valley View continues in full swing, and there are signs up all over the place showcasing both Beck's plan as well as the Lifetime Fitness complex.

Additionally, the old Steak and Shake has been turned into a restaurant that looks like it was ripped straight from the sound stage of some crappy mid-90's TV show. Behold....Midtown Pizza.
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Postby itsjrd1964 » 18 May 2019 16:12

exelone31 wrote:Additionally, the old Steak and Shake has been turned into a restaurant that looks like it was ripped straight from the sound stage of some crappy mid-90's TV show. Behold....Midtown Pizza.


I hope they cleaned it up good in the process. It was boarded up a *long* time, plenty of time for mold'n'stuff to be there. Too many other pizza places to choose from to get excited about this one. I figured the site would be a teardown before it would get leased to another place.

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Postby DFW » 19 May 2019 21:20

Don’t know if this has been posted but I assume it’s just another mock up of the tallest tower in the Midtown Development.

https://prestonhollow.advocatemag.com/2 ... ocal-ties/

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby Tnexster » 19 May 2019 21:55

DFW wrote:Don’t know if this has been posted but I assume it’s just another mock up of the tallest tower in the Midtown Development.

https://prestonhollow.advocatemag.com/2 ... ocal-ties/


I've never seen that rendering before. Seems taller than anything else we've seen, is it real?

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby Brettoj » 19 May 2019 22:10

I will call 0-5 % chance. I have very little confidence Beck can make it happen. I hope I am proven wrong though.

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Postby Dragon_Lady » 20 May 2019 01:37

This is nothing more than a self-promotion puff piece by a north Dallas city councilman's over-adulating about his daughter's project work. Nepotism? ...whatever; besides it is completely an unrealistic architectural render of some blah blah avant-garde Dallas Midtown "signature tower" at that site. I don't recall the FAA allowing anything more than 450 to 500 AGL at that site. Perhaps I'm wrong. If I am then please nothing like that clap-trap modernistic bovine scatola. Instead, give us something of a neo-Art Deco tower like Williams tower by the late, great Paul Johnson. My two cents.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby ArtVandelay » 20 May 2019 06:44

Dragon_Lady wrote:This is nothing more than a self-promotion puff piece by a north Dallas city councilman's over-adulating about his daughter's project work. Nepotism? ...whatever; besides it is completely an unrealistic architectural render of some blah blah avant-garde Dallas Midtown "signature tower" at that site. I don't recall the FAA allowing anything more than 450 to 500 AGL at that site. Perhaps I'm wrong. If I am then please nothing like that clap-trap modernistic bovine scatola. Instead, give us something of a neo-Art Deco tower like Williams tower by the late, great Paul Johnson. My two cents.


I don’t see anything wrong with being proud of your kid’s accomplishments. But if I were him, I’d stay as far away from that dumpster fire seeing that he is a councilman.

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Postby itsjrd1964 » 20 May 2019 14:43

ArtVandelay wrote:
Dragon_Lady wrote:This is nothing more than a self-promotion puff piece by a north Dallas city councilman's over-adulating about his daughter's project work. Nepotism? ...whatever; besides it is completely an unrealistic architectural render of some blah blah avant-garde Dallas Midtown "signature tower" at that site. I don't recall the FAA allowing anything more than 450 to 500 AGL at that site. Perhaps I'm wrong. If I am then please nothing like that clap-trap modernistic bovine scatola. Instead, give us something of a neo-Art Deco tower like Williams tower by the late, great Paul Johnson. My two cents.


I don’t see anything wrong with being proud of your kid’s accomplishments. But if I were him, I’d stay as far away from that dumpster fire seeing that he is a councilman.


IMO, that tower is just a bit too close to Addison Airport to be *that* tall.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby Cord1936 » 07 Jun 2019 18:06

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LBJ Freeway Project To Relieve Dallas Congestion Gets Fluor, Balfour Beatty As Leaders
May 31, 2019, by Kerri Panchuk, Dallas Bisnow

The Texas Department of Transportation is prepared to unleash a major roadway project on a portion of LBJ Freeway to increase capacity and relieve congestion.

The state agency awarded a reconstruction contract on 11 miles of Interstate 635 (LBJ Freeway) to a joint venture of Fluor and Balfour Beatty Infrastructure Inc.

The project comes at a time when the I-635 Corridor is back in the news — a portion of the highway will serve as an entry point to the Dallas Midtown and Park Heritage mixed-use projects, which will eventually infill a dated DFW neighborhood with luxury offices, apartments and retail.

As part of this infrastructure project, the JV will work on a stretch of I-635 running east of U.S. Highway 75 to I-30.

Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/dallas-ft-worth/ ... um=Browser

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby itsjrd1964 » 08 Jun 2019 09:18

Cord1936 wrote:Image

LBJ Freeway Project To Relieve Dallas Congestion Gets Fluor, Balfour Beatty As Leaders
May 31, 2019, by Kerri Panchuk, Dallas Bisnow

The Texas Department of Transportation is prepared to unleash a major roadway project on a portion of LBJ Freeway to increase capacity and relieve congestion.

The state agency awarded a reconstruction contract on 11 miles of Interstate 635 (LBJ Freeway) to a joint venture of Fluor and Balfour Beatty Infrastructure Inc.

The project comes at a time when the I-635 Corridor is back in the news — a portion of the highway will serve as an entry point to the Dallas Midtown and Park Heritage mixed-use projects, which will eventually infill a dated DFW neighborhood with luxury offices, apartments and retail.

As part of this infrastructure project, the JV will work on a stretch of I-635 running east of U.S. Highway 75 to I-30.

Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/dallas-ft-worth/ ... um=Browser


^^^ really should be in the Roads/highways section... most of what will be done is not in proximity to the Midtown development.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby Jay9398 » 08 Jun 2019 13:43

“unleash a major roadway project... to increase capacity and relieve congestion.”

They will literally never learn.

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby exelone31 » 10 Jun 2019 11:03

Didn't we JUST do this?

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby derkcir » 10 Jun 2019 12:12

why didn't they take care of the Midtown portion when they finished 635 west? SMH

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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby muncien » 10 Jun 2019 13:57

I'm not so sure this has anything to do with 'Midtown'. They state the work will span 11 miles between 75 & I30. I think they're just being fluffy when they say 'Midtown'. I'm pretty sure that section is done.
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Re: North Dallas: Midtown

Postby tamtagon » 10 Jun 2019 14:25

^and I'm not sure if the first attempt to redevelop Valley View (Ikon) was even a deal when TxDOT was planning the LBJ redo


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