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Re: West End 1.0

Postby dallaz » 15 Aug 2018 14:44

Renovation plan would turn 93-year-old West End building into hotel in downtown Dallas

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... own-dallas

A plan in the works would convert a historic building in downtown Dallas' West End district into a new hotel.

The Sanger Brothers garage at 711 Elm Street was built in 1925 as one of the city's first "high-rise" parking garages.

The 5-story brick building sits across the street from where the Sanger Brothers department store was - now El Centro College.

Irving-based hotel firm Icon Lodging bought the Elm Street building in April and has been working with Dallas' Merriman Anderson Architects to come up with a plan to redevelop the garage.

Merriman Anderson recently made a preliminary presentation to the Dallas Landmark Commission which asked them to go back to the drawing board and rework the hotel proposal.

The initial plan would have added six levels of hotel rooms on top of the old parking structure. But commission members and staff weren't on board with that plan.

Merriman Anderson partner Milton Anderson said his firm plans to keep working on an acceptable redevelopment plan for the property.

"Our client wants to find a way to make this happen," Anderson said. "It's a unique and special building.

"We are working hard with the Landmark Commission and they have been responsive and understanding."

The Sanger Brothers garage was originally designed by Dallas architect J.A. Pitzinger, who also did the original Dr Pepper headquarters on Second Avenue near Fair Park.

With decorative brick and stonework and big metal windows, it's easy to mistake for one of the West End's other office and warehouse buildings.

When Sanger Brothers had the building, it housed "a complete motor department store where every need of the car may be supplied."

Photo's from back in the day show the roof of the garage lined with big Packards and Fords.

Merriman Anderson's plans for the property would convert the top two floors of the original garage into hotel rooms and have the lobby on the ground floor where retail is now located.

Merriman Anderson is one of Dallas' most experienced renovation architects, having handled the redesign of many downtown historic buildings including the Statler Hotel, Lone Star Gas buildings and Tower Petroleum Building.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 22 Aug 2018 22:00

Nice shot, and you captured that crane in the distance...what is that working on?

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Postby itsjrd1964 » 23 Aug 2018 11:57

The only projects to the south are the Holocaust Museum and the Records Building, I don't know what would need a crane down that way though. Maybe the Museum?

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby maconahey » 23 Aug 2018 12:05

I think it's for the Records Building complex renovation project

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 23 Aug 2018 12:05

Yes its the County Courts and Records Building project I believe. They are stitching together three buildings built in three different eras with floors on different levels and building a rooftop events space as well.

https://www.dallascounty.org/dcrb/

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Postby Jay9398 » 23 Aug 2018 12:48

Yes, we walked by this the other day to see what the crane was all about but didn't take a picture. The crane is wedged in where the garage doors were.

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Postby ContriveDallasite » 24 Aug 2018 03:41

I believe I saw a rendering floating about somewhere, there will be a glass facade connecting the two buildings.

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Postby CTroyMathis » 24 Aug 2018 07:24

There are some pretty good visuals at the link:

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 24 Aug 2018 08:05

The interiors will be what really shine once they are done. There are renderings of what they are doing inside as well.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 24 Aug 2018 10:27

Looks like they might be re-lighting the underpass between West End and Victory.

Meanwhile, the DIA is also working on plans to illuminate the path between the West End and Victory Park. “One connection that has been top of mind is that between the West End and Victory Park and how easy it is to get from one place to the next,” Sanders says. “But people don't realize it, and walking on the underpass is not very welcoming.”

So this summer, the DIA secured a $25,000 grant from Downtown Dallas Inc., a nonprofit advocacy group, to improve the safety on the path with a light installation. The grant will cover a series of lit metal arches that will be programmable and “have lots of opportunities to engage artists,” Sanders says.


https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dal ... d-11058842

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Postby DPatel304 » 24 Aug 2018 10:36

DPatel304 wrote:As for the actual underpass, I like the idea of setting up vendors here. I'd take it one step further and put a TON of lights all over the place. Maybe make the ground light up as you walk on it and/or play music with each step, which would be great to attract kids/families. Place tons of lights along the top as well, and maybe even have some sort of light show that goes off at a certain time each night. Dallas is all about putting lights on their buildings, so might as well embrace it and make a touristy attraction out of it.


..looks like they took my idea :D

I think it's fantastic, and exactly what the West End and Victory Park need to help with the foot traffic in the area.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 24 Aug 2018 11:19

Cool. Can we take away the unnecessary parking for the The Perot under the highway? Let's activate that portion of the underpass with a Skate Park , Tennis Court , Futsal court, and Basketball court.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 24 Aug 2018 12:33

Those archways were lit up before. I am not hearing anything that's wasn't done already before unless there will be an active art piece that attracts tourists by its sheer uniqueness and good maintenance by the city. Not to mention whats in the West End is kinda subtle now. There used to be the excitement of restaurants and shopping. Now its office space and few small quieter restaurants. Victory Park has added a Movie Theater now so that's better than nothing.

Also, someone may want to check but last I checked a few months ago the DEC Dallas Entrepreneur Center was gobbled up by Capitol Factory which was moving it to the Centrum into their new space on Oak Lawn.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 24 Aug 2018 12:36

I still like my Frogtown Plaza idea for the dead plaza just past the arches. Kids and tourists will love it and have no clue that it's a reference to the former red light district.

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Postby exelone31 » 24 Aug 2018 12:57

lakewoodhobo wrote:I still like my Frogtown Plaza idea for the dead plaza just past the arches. Kids and tourists will love it and have no clue that it's a reference to the former red light district.

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Hahaha, nice! A slight tweak on that, perhaps they do an exact replica of Pioneer Plaza, but replace the cows with frogs.

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Postby Tnexster » 24 Aug 2018 12:59

maconahey wrote:I think it's for the Records Building complex renovation project

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https://www.dallascounty.org/dcrb/


Awesome, thanks!

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby dallaz » 27 Sep 2018 12:33

Downtown Dallas' historic Purse Building is chasing a new generation of office tenants


https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ce-tenants


Compared to other downtown Dallas office projects, the 113-year-old Purse Building at first look doesn't have a lot to offer.

There's no air conditioning, no elevators and the inside is covered in peeling paint. But prospective business tenants that have taken a peek at the West End district landmark are eager to talk about a deal.

"We got interest as soon as we started working on the building," said investor Tanya Ragan, who earlier this year started a fix-up program on the more than century-old Elm Street building. "We've been getting all kinds off nibbles from tenants but we haven't been ready.

"We just finished the inside demo last week."

Upper floors in the six-story historic building at Elm and Record streets are now wide open with wood timber beams, tin ceilings and old plank flooring. Windows on three sides of the building are still covered with dark screens and years of grime.

"Over the next three weeks, the crew will come in and take off all the ugly window shades, paint the trim and clean the windows," Ragan said.

Decades of old partitions, construction materials and fixtures have already been hauled out of the building, which until the early 1990s was used for Dallas County offices. The building has been vacant since then.

"When the county occupied it, they had all these little offices," Ragan said. "It had yucky old carpet and drop-down ceilings.

"We opened it all up," she said. "It's really important to be able to show tenants what this can be."

Ragan's Wildcat Management company will start with restoring the first and second levels of the long, narrow building.

"We want to give prospective tenants an idea of what a space could look like," she said. "What's so cool about the space is every floor looks a little different."

Renovation plans include a rooftop deck and retail on the Elm Street and Pacific Avenue sides of the Purse Building.

"Our concept is to have a fast casual restaurant in the back and retail in the front," Ragan said.

Built in 1905, the Purse Building was originally used as offices and warehouse space for the Parlin and Orendorff Implement Co., which sold agricultural equipment. For decades, the 70,000-square-foot building housed Purse & Co. Wholesale Furniture.

The building is prized by preservationists for its cast-iron front façade and ornate brickwork.

It sits across the street from the Dallas County Records Building complex which is in the midst of a redo.

With downtown Dallas awash in first-class office space, it might seem odd that businesses are interested in small, aging addresses like the Purse Building. But a growing number of small and mid-sized creative and tech companies are eschewing traditional office environments for new digs in historic properties.

Developers are currently renovating almost a dozen old commercial buildings — originally used for everything from auto dealerships to electrical parts warehouses — on downtown Dallas' east side. Those buildings constructed in the 1920s and 1930s are being converted into new office space.

And Dallas' more than century-old West End district is attracting new office tenants who want to break out of the usual corporate office box.

Blue Cross Blue Shield of Texas and retailer Sam's Club have both taken big blocks of West End offices for new innovation operations.

But most of the demand for offices in these one-of-a-kind historic buildings comes from smaller entrepreneurial firms.

"These tenants are looking for authenticism, said Mike Wyatt, executive vice president with commercial real estate firm Cushman & Wakefield. "They weave their company into the story of these old buildings.

"The phoenix is rising for these older buildings in the central business district."

Small business that can get lost among the floors and floors of downtown office skyscrapers also see an appeal in the historic buildings where they are more visible, he said.

"There is a sense of branding that can be accomplished when they are a larger tenant in a smaller building," Wyatt said. "They like the history and the culture and the feel of being in a revitalized building."

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 27 Sep 2018 12:58

Imagine when the East Quarter renovations are completed. That will arguably be even more impactful than this single project. Glad to see these old buildings get a new life.

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Postby ContriveDallasite » 28 Sep 2018 02:29

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Imagine when the East Quarter renovations are completed. That will arguably be even more impactful than this single project. Glad to see these old buildings get a new life.


The fringes of the West End have been decimated by surface lots. I would love to see some infill that is appropriate to the architectural charm of this area.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 07 Dec 2018 17:49

Looks like the Brewery Building (703 McKinney Ave) redevelopment is back on. Owners were in front of the Oak Lawn Committee for approval of a landscape plan.

Oak Lawn Committee Revisits The Starck Club, Past Election
https://candysdirt.com/2018/12/05/oak-l ... -7XEAqcHDc

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Postby itsjrd1964 » 07 Dec 2018 19:53

Wow, Phillipe Starck wants to bring the Starck Club back?? And Gruen Associates (as in Victor Gruen, a big name in early shopping mall and department store architecture and development) is also in on this, per Candy. Could be very intriguing.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 07 Dec 2018 20:00

Well the obviously they abandoned the office and residential plan for this site.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 07 Dec 2018 20:48

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Well the obviously they abandoned the office and residential plan for this site.

How unfortunate.A club will fizzle out with time.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 07 Dec 2018 21:28

Yeah, the plans for the rest of the property basically sound like more of a propping up the property in its current desperate state than a real bringer to life.

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Postby Matt777 » 07 Dec 2018 21:41

Could be cool and definitely sounds mixed use. Part of the complex will be a club, part of it an athletic club, and seems to be a pool and amenity deck added. Maybe residential on upper floors?

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Postby DPatel304 » 22 Jan 2019 13:17

Historical building in downtown Dallas West End opens for tenant tours
A historically recognized building in downtown Dallas is about to hit the limelight. Located at 601 Elm St., the 113-year-old Purse Building has been thoughtfully renovated and is now ready to get the party started.

The building, which was built in 1905 and is a Texas State Archaeological Landmark, has been developed as a high-tech six-story workspace by real estate developer Tanya Ragan, founder of Wildcat Management.

Phase 1 of the restoration has just finished; completion is set for spring 2020. But there's a showroom ready and progress tours are now available to media and prospective tenants.

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/city- ... -downtown/

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Postby itsjrd1964 » 22 Jan 2019 17:54

DPatel304 wrote:Historical building in downtown Dallas West End opens for tenant tours
A historically recognized building in downtown Dallas is about to hit the limelight. Located at 601 Elm St., the 113-year-old Purse Building has been thoughtfully renovated and is now ready to get the party started.

The building, which was built in 1905 and is a Texas State Archaeological Landmark, has been developed as a high-tech six-story workspace by real estate developer Tanya Ragan, founder of Wildcat Management.

Phase 1 of the restoration has just finished; completion is set for spring 2020. But there's a showroom ready and progress tours are now available to media and prospective tenants.

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/city- ... -downtown/


I noticed new signs tacked up on the building's ground level outside facing the DART light rail line. I didn't get a picture or see them close enough to read the whole thing.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 22 Jan 2019 19:56

itsjrd1964 wrote:
DPatel304 wrote:Historical building in downtown Dallas West End opens for tenant tours
A historically recognized building in downtown Dallas is about to hit the limelight. Located at 601 Elm St., the 113-year-old Purse Building has been thoughtfully renovated and is now ready to get the party started.

The building, which was built in 1905 and is a Texas State Archaeological Landmark, has been developed as a high-tech six-story workspace by real estate developer Tanya Ragan, founder of Wildcat Management.

Phase 1 of the restoration has just finished; completion is set for spring 2020. But there's a showroom ready and progress tours are now available to media and prospective tenants.

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/city- ... -downtown/


I noticed new signs tacked up on the building's ground level outside facing the DART light rail line. I didn't get a picture or see them close enough to read the whole thing.


They're just Now leasing signs and pics of Jane Jacobs with "Return Her to Glory" messages.

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Postby DPatel304 » 30 Jan 2019 13:03

CultureMap Dallas
See what all the excitement is about during an open house today from 12-2 pm and 4-6 pm.

https://www.facebook.com/CultureMapDall ... 3026241414

According to this Facebook post from CultureMap Dallas, it looks like the Purse building is having an open house today from 12-2pm and 4-6pm. Unfortunately, I can't find much information on this open house. I would assume they mean it is open to the general public, but it's tough to say for sure.

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Postby vman » 31 Jan 2019 06:34

lakewoodhobo wrote:Looks like the Brewery Building (703 McKinney Ave) redevelopment is back on. Owners were in front of the Oak Lawn Committee for approval of a landscape plan.

Oak Lawn Committee Revisits The Starck Club, Past Election
https://candysdirt.com/2018/12/05/oak-l ... -7XEAqcHDc

Work has started here. The building is fenced off and interior demolition has begun.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 31 Jan 2019 09:59

This club idea is lame. I wish the residential tower would've gone through.

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Postby DPatel304 » 06 Feb 2019 17:27

Grand Opening Party for Common Desk - Factory Six03
Thu, February 7, 2019
5:30 PM – 7:30 PM CST

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/grand-open ... 5175351963

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 22 Feb 2019 14:36

DPatel304 wrote:
Grand Opening Party for Common Desk - Factory Six03
Thu, February 7, 2019
5:30 PM – 7:30 PM CST

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/grand-open ... 5175351963


So did they pereserve the arcade in the basement?!?!

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 23 Feb 2019 10:57

The basement is a parking garage now

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Postby dallaz » 15 Mar 2019 11:10

Downtown Dallas' newest office address in the West End is almost ready for tenants


https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... dy-tenants

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 15 Mar 2019 11:47

I really hope that concrete slab on the side of the building is not the final product... Sadly I think it is. Another design "feature" to cut costs ...

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Postby DPatel304 » 15 Mar 2019 14:12

Isn't it likely that the empty lot next to it will eventually be re-developed into something, which would completely block whatever they do with that wall? Who knows when that will happen, so we are stuck with the blank wall for now, but it's not exactly in a promiment location as it is.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 19 Apr 2019 12:00

Saw that Shivas Bar & Grill is opening at 1001 Ross, in the space that was Sushi World several years ago. It looked like the same typeface as the one on Greenville Ave, so I assume it's the same restaurant.

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Postby mdg109 » 19 Apr 2019 16:09

Nice find! Glad to see something opening up in this part of downtown. Hopefully it does well.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 23 Apr 2019 15:15

Good to know the Dallas Alley arch lights are coming back. Photo from Dallas Innovation Alliance.

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Postby mdg109 » 23 Apr 2019 16:40

Awesome!

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Postby eburress » 23 Apr 2019 17:35

Oh yay! I was sad when they removed the lights but am glad they're coming back! Do you know if the arch lights will extend all the way through the old Dallas Alley?

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 24 Apr 2019 14:48

eburress wrote:Do you know if the arch lights will extend all the way through the old Dallas Alley?


Unfortunately Granite Properties removed the arches from their portion of the alley.

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Postby DPatel304 » 26 Apr 2019 11:31

Coming soon: Thai restaurant in the West End, from a prominent Dallas restaurant family
Family Thais Asian Bistro will open at 208 N. Market St, Dallas.

https://www.guidelive.com/food-and-drin ... ant-family

Glad to see more variety in the food scene Downtown.

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Postby DPatel304 » 26 Apr 2019 12:38

lakewoodhobo wrote:
eburress wrote:Do you know if the arch lights will extend all the way through the old Dallas Alley?


Unfortunately Granite Properties removed the arches from their portion of the alley.

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Looking at google streetview, it looks like there used to be more of a ramp on to the street, but now it's just a regular curb.

This would be a cool connector to the West End, but, for it to make sense, you'd really have to close down the street entirely there (I'm not sure how feasible that is).

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Postby dfwcre8tive » 26 Apr 2019 13:24

DPatel304 wrote:
lakewoodhobo wrote:
eburress wrote:Do you know if the arch lights will extend all the way through the old Dallas Alley?


Unfortunately Granite Properties removed the arches from their portion of the alley.

Screen Shot 2019-04-24 at 2.46.18 PM.jpg


Looking at google streetview, it looks like there used to be more of a ramp on to the street, but now it's just a regular curb.

This would be a cool connector to the West End, but, for it to make sense, you'd really have to close down the street entirely there (I'm not sure how feasible that is).


Do you mean this view? https://goo.gl/maps/yLy5FfdoKSwHuwyp7

The curb has always been there without a crosswalk making for an awkward street crossing. It's a logical place for a raised crosswalk / speed table to improve pedestrian connections.

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