lakewoodhobo wrote:As long as Fort Worth continues to market itself as cowtown and "where the west begins" there will be no Austin-like cool factor.
I've always assumed Denton would be the next Austin.
Hopefully it will stay that way.
lakewoodhobo wrote:As long as Fort Worth continues to market itself as cowtown and "where the west begins" there will be no Austin-like cool factor.
I've always assumed Denton would be the next Austin.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CORP548PCPItamtagon wrote:Corpus is the next Beaumont-Port Arthur! Actually, I've always wondered what was keeping Corpus from really taking off; now with liquid natural gas poised to activate the port, maybe it'll stick.
Yep, it's breaking all over the place. Just got a FOX News update with the same info. WOW!SlandersonCooper wrote:Amazon Pulls Out of Planned NYC Campus
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/14/nyre ... ueens.html
DFW, #GirdYourLoins!
I see Austin as the front-runner.jetnd87 wrote:"We do not intend to re-open the HQ2 search at this time. We will proceed as planned in Northern Virginia and Nashville, and we will continue to hire and grow across our 17 corporate offices and tech hubs in the U.S. and Canada."
So do you believe them? If so, DFW's still out...
Also ....ROFL LOLOLOLOLOL!Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Also ....ROFL LOLOLOLOL!
Outside of the politicians, I don't know of a single person in Queens who wanted them there. I highly doubt the working class families nearby wanted anything to do with HQ2. The protests were real IMO.art_suckz wrote:Another angle: some locals are claiming they were fine with HQ plan and that outsiders were being bussed in to sink the deal.
This sounds likely. The did quietly move to the Domain in Austin as well, which is kind of in line with what you're saying. Perhaps the HQ2 was a big ruse to get the whole country to show Amazon their hand, and now Amazon can locate their HQ2 where they wanted to go all along (which is DC. There were several hints along the way all along), AND in addition to that, they can open up smaller offices in cities they find attractive (which seems to be Nashville and Austin currently).whit5125 wrote:I bet this was part of the plan but it kind of is a pointless and stupid plan.
I do think there is a small chance that a runner up city like Dallas quietly gets a campus with a couple of thousand or more employees, because they did just chop their planned growth in half by basically dropping the new York office....unless they want to double the Virginia site.
Plus we do know Amazon board members have said "wow it was easier in Dallas" when shit started to hit the fan in NYC.
it's a small chance , but I bet you there is a chance something gets put in a runner up city , remember Nashvilles 5 k center basically came out of the blue.
I don't know a single person in Queens who wanted them there, either. But then I don't know anyone who lives in Queens.Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Outside of the politicians, I don't know of a single person in Queens who wanted them there. I highly doubt the working class families nearby wanted anything to do with HQ2. The protests were real IMO.
We already have a problem with roads deteriorating, though. Granted, Amazon will get out of taxes for a long time but that infusion of good paying salaries will have a net positive effect on the city's coffers through property taxes on their housing and sales tax on their purchases. In a city like NYC, where the infrastructure is already maxed out, I could see it being a net negative but we have room and infrastructure to spare. Even if we put all 25,000 workers in Downtown Dallas, that's only a 20% increase in the amount of people who work down there now.joshua.dodd wrote: We already have a big problem with giving companies 20 year tax abatements while our roads suffer and deteriorate.
What I can see happening here is Amazon deciding to expand their Dallas presence by moving the Galleria staff to a new building in Victory, maybe the smaller new one by Hillwood that was originally pitched to Amazon.Kelley USA wrote:So basically Amazon is saying we'd rather not build at all than bring 1/2 of the HQ2 to Dallas (or Charlotte, or Chicago, or Austin, or Atlanta)… Maybe things will change, but I sort of see it as they're still not very high on Dallas or any of the other cities.
This is assuming they have been truthful and transparent with us the entire time. For all we know, HQ2 was never supposed to be 50K employees, it was only supposed to be 25K employees, and Crystal City was the one and only winner.Kelley USA wrote:So basically Amazon is saying we'd rather not build at all than bring 1/2 of the HQ2 to Dallas (or Charlotte, or Chicago, or Austin, or Atlanta)…
Amazon was a little unclear if they are still interested in opening the second half of their HQ. It's entirely possible that the 'second half' of the HQ2 was just made up for leverage, NYC was never a real contender and they only wanted to be in DC this entire time. If that's the case, then I'm not surprised the NYC deal fell through, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of the HQ2 search entirely."We do not intend to re-open the HQ2 search at this time. We will proceed as planned in Northern Virginia and Nashville, and we will continue to hire and grow across our 17 corporate offices and tech hubs in the U.S. and Canada."
Actually, Amazon has been quite clear.DPatel304 wrote:Amazon was a little unclear if they are still interested in opening the second half of their HQ. It's entirely possible that the 'second half' of the HQ2 was just made up for leverage, NYC was never a real contender and they only wanted to be in DC this entire time. If that's the case, then I'm not surprised the NYC deal fell through, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of the HQ2 search entirely."We do not intend to re-open the HQ2 search at this time. We will proceed as planned in Northern Virginia and Nashville, and we will continue to hire and grow across our 17 corporate offices and tech hubs in the U.S. and Canada."
Who really knows with Amazon though. I guess I'm just saying that just because they didn't go to NYC, there's no guarantee that a HQ with 25K potential employees is still up for grabs. If it is still up for grabs, and their original choices were NYC and DC, then I'd imagine they would want to go somewhere that is equally as urban (which, from that list, would be Boston).
Whoops, sorry, I didn't quite read the article that was just posted. For some reason I thought they were still thinking the second HQ would still come here.Tucy wrote:Actually, Amazon has been quite clear.
There will be no second 2nd HQ (third HQ). The jobs that would have gone to NYC will instead go to Northern Virginia, Nashville and the 17 tech hubs (which includes Dallas and Austin).
Amazon is expanding its tech hub in Austin, bringing new jobs to Texas
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/ama ... jobs-texas
Amazon will expand its tech hub in Austin, Texas creating 800 new jobs in the area, according to an announcement Thursday.
Nah Dallas is Dallas.tamtagon wrote:Austin becoming SFOSJ, Dallas becoming LA?
Those are really just stereotypes though. Outside of Uptown and Park Cities is Dallas really all that pretentious? If you go to the Cedars or Oak Cliff, it'll feel more laid-back and less image-focused than many parts of Austin. The opposite can be said about Austin too. Sure they are known for being more laid-back and less image-focused, but I just don't see that vibe there any more.eburress wrote:I've felt there are a lot of parallels between the relationship of Dallas and Austin to that of LA and San Diego. Dallas and LA are larger, upscale, pretentious, etc while Austin and San Diego are smaller, laid-back, less image-focused, etc.