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Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby tamtagon » 31 Oct 2016 08:46

http://southernland.com/portfolio/knox/

The Knox project will deliver 18 floors of luxury multifamily living to Dallas. Expected to complete in 2017, this community, designed by GDA Architects, will offer a range of apartments and penthouses with stunning views in all directions. Residents will enjoy a resort-style pool, indoor and outdoor lounges, a fitness center and specialized dog grooming facilities on-site.


http://www.dallasnews.com/business/business/2016/10/31/developer-working-knox-street-tower-lakewood-apartments

by Steve Brown

A developer is preparing to begin construction on a high-rise apartments ... to start construction in early 2107 on the 270-unit, 18-story high-rise on North Central Expressway at Oliver Street.



http://candysdirt.com/2015/07/06/southe ... r-knox-st/

by Joanna England

“...This project is going to bring something new and unique to the Knox Street neighborhood, which is the most vibrant retail and restaurant district in Dallas,” Todd Marchesani, acquisitions manager for Southern Land, said in a press release. “The demand for urban living within walking distance to lifestyle amenities has continued to increase. This property provides the ideal location with its proximity to offices, shops and restaurants in Downtown Dallas, Uptown, Highland Park and Preston Center. Crafting communities where lifestyle thrives is our ultimate objective.”
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Postby Tnexster » 26 Feb 2017 12:09

How is this progressing?

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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby ozzie » 27 Feb 2017 08:07

From the DMN 2/13/17: Developer Southern Land Co. has filed the building permits for its high-rise apartment planned in Dallas' Knox Street district.

The 310-unit, 20-story building is planned on North Central Expressway at Oliver Street. Building permits say that the tower will cost almost $73 million.

Construction is set to begin on the building at midyear, according to a Southern Land representative. The developer has already demolished small buildings that previously occupied the site.
The project was designed by GDA Architects (renderings on their website)

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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby LongonBigD » 27 Feb 2017 09:56

They submitted an application for the sitework to begin. That should start in 60-90 days. They had to make some design changes based on preliminary discussions with the city last year -- nothing you would notice. The basic design/look remains. They had to make the building's footprint smaller (is that why it went from 18 to 20 stories? or is 20 just Steve Brown "rounding"?) They did lower the height of the parking garage as was pointed out by somebody already looking at the last version of drawings by adding a second underground level.

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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby maconahey » 03 May 2017 15:52

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 437&row=88

Structure Name: Oliver Place
Work Schedule: 06/15/2017 to 06/15/2019
Site Elevation: 524
Structure Height: 236
Total Height (AMSL): 760

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Postby mwaskow » 03 May 2017 16:08

Found this rendering from 2016, are we still thinking this is close to the final design?

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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby LongonBigD » 03 May 2017 16:46

Some small changes (parking garage looks one level shorter, changes to glass/brick ratio on tower, some changes to top couple of floors). Here are the drawings from GDA Architects currently posted.
http://www.gda-architects.com/gda-oliver---central.html
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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby LongonBigD » 08 Jun 2017 23:06

This one seems to be taking forever. I think we got wind of it maybe two years ago. One year ago, the existing buildings were demolished. Then nothing for a year. Today a small bit of progress. Today they removed the billboard. Perhaps we will see physical evidence of progress begin soon.

Here is a pic of the billboard from before the lots were cleared. You gotta love the message:

"Dallas is waiting."

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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby R1070 » 14 Jun 2017 21:39

I noticed the billboard missing as well. Hopefully things pick up soon. This will have a great presence along NCX.

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Postby LongonBigD » 30 Aug 2017 13:52

A construction trailer was delivered today. Man with truck and chainsaw eyeing the trees remaining on this property. Perhaps this one is finally moving forward after 2+ years.

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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby R1070 » 20 Sep 2017 20:50

Lots of construction trailers now on a small adjacent lot.

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Postby LongonBigD » 21 Sep 2017 00:37

That small adjacent lot is part of the project. Will eventually be the private park for the tower residents.

Also, lots of paint markings in the alley. Ready to begin utility work perhaps?

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Postby kingpin » 24 Sep 2017 22:49

9/24/17

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 25 Sep 2017 09:34

This one keeps talking about starting and yet here we are nothing.
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Postby citygeek » 24 Oct 2017 16:37

OK. I just stopped by the construction site and spoke with Mike, the Construction Manager (there were a number of men in and out of the construction trailer complex) and they are indeed beginning the project. He also mentioned a project in Lakewood and the 40-story apartment tower in downtown Fort Worth Southern Land is proposing. All in all, a very brief encounter but the best one so far.
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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 24 Oct 2017 18:10

citygeek wrote:OK. I just stopped by the construction site and spoke with Mike, the Construction Manager (there were a number of men in and out of the construction trailer complex) and they are indeed beginning the project. He also mentioned a project in Lakewood and the 40-story apartment tower in downtown Fort Worth Southern Land is proposing. All in all, a very brief encounter but the best one so far.


40 story...in FW??!?!

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Postby citygeek » 24 Oct 2017 20:15

Typo--my bad. 40 would be awesome but it's announced at 30 stories. 901 Commerce, DTFW
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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 24 Oct 2017 22:00

citygeek wrote:Typo--my bad. 40 would be awesome but it's announced at 30 stories. 901 Commerce, DTFW


That's still awesome. FW FTW!

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Postby LongonBigD » 01 Nov 2017 18:16

They are off and running on this site. This week work started on the new sewer line in the alley. Also several deliveries of sand and gravel placed on the site. It took a while, now we wait while they dig the hole, two stories deep if I am remembering correctly then three stories up. It will be a stretch again before we see it rise above ground level.

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Postby kingpin » 27 Nov 2017 17:45

11/27

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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby LongonBigD » 10 Jan 2018 18:52

Trees removed. They have begun digging the hole for the partial underground parking.

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Postby Tnexster » 15 Jan 2018 20:11

High-rise under construction near Dallas' Knox Street

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... nox-street

Construction has started on the next Dallas apartment high-rise - this one near Knox Street.

Developer Southern Land Co. is building its 20-story residential tower on North Central Expressway at Oliver Street.

The 310-unit building is just a few blocks from the booming Knox Street district and is east of Highland Park.

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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 15 Jan 2018 23:37

This apartment tower looks like a corporate office building built somewhere off a toll-road. Uninspiring.

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Postby Tnexster » 16 Jan 2018 20:01

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:This apartment tower looks like a corporate office building built somewhere off a toll-road. Uninspiring.


The Ascent was that way too but turned out pretty nice. Let's see what this looks like when it gets finished.

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Postby LongonBigD » 14 Feb 2018 11:10

I talked to the superintendent recently. He was wearing a jacket that said "Oliver Place" on it, I guess that's the official name of this project.

The digging of the hole is almost complete. They took out the entrance ramp of dirt this week, leaving only the exit ramp. This is to be 2 story underground parking and a 3 story pedestal for 5 levels of garage total. The super said they are scouting for locations to put the webcam to monitor progress.

This is fascinating to watch from out my back door. What comes next, the crane or drilling piers?

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Postby LongonBigD » 11 Mar 2018 18:29

Two cranes going in. They are up to ground level with these. Should be visible soon.
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Postby LongonBigD » 11 Apr 2018 20:28

According to this new signage, I guess this thread needs a new name. NOVE at KNOX. Any guesses on how this would be pronounced? Or meaning? Isnt it Italian for “nine?”

Two cranes have been up for a couple of weeks.
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Postby tamtagon » 11 Apr 2018 21:40

LongonBigD wrote: NOVE at KNOX. Any guesses on how this would be pronounced? Or meaning? Isnt it Italian for “nine?”


How about like the bird, Dove?

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Postby Matt777 » 11 Apr 2018 22:45

I would guess that it is pronounced "No-vay." I don't like the name.

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Postby exelone31 » 12 Apr 2018 08:56

"One day I will live in a building that has plenty of green space". There is no vay that this is that building. :lol:

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Nove at Knox

Postby LongonBigD » 07 May 2018 22:13

The first story/puff piece using the new moniker “Novē at Knox”. A little bit of new info, but mostly regurgitated stuff we already knew. This from DBJ here...
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... nt-at.html

A website at NoveAtKnox.com which includes this rendering I have not seen before with some tweaks...more brick than in earlier renderings.

There is a Facebook page now too with some interesting shots of the future views from the tower. And this...

Did you know our name Novē (No Vay) is derived from the Italian word “diciannove,” which means 19 and is a nod to our community's 19 floors?
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Postby R1070 » 14 Jun 2018 22:04

The ramp is up above grade level now. They should be pouring the first floor soon.

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Postby LongonBigD » 15 Aug 2018 17:01

Starting to form the third level (above ground) of the parking garage. Soon the work will start on the tower itself.
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Postby LongonBigD » 23 Sep 2018 14:05

Parking garage topped out I believe. Starting to form the first level of the tower.
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Postby LongonBigD » 25 Nov 2018 16:21

They are forming the 10th floor now. Over half way up to 19 stories. This photo was a couple of weeks ago.
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Postby LongonBigD » 28 Jan 2019 20:48

Working on the 15th floor now. Only four more to go. Walls going up, but no skin materials yet.
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Postby LongonBigD » 24 Feb 2019 17:24

As of today, I believe they are forming the last floor with the roof yet to go. Bricks are being applied to outer skin. Two colors, a taupe color and a very dark blackish/grey brick. Glass work yet to begin. I took these shots of the buildings’ west facade this time (facing McKinney Ave). The photo showing the construction trailers is where the park/outdoor space will be when complete.
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Postby LongonBigD » 17 Apr 2019 23:03

The skin and windows are going up quickly. Parking garage covering started on west side of building.

This one is a little darker in color compared to renderings. The drawings had blue windows instead of gray, but that may be a common way to illustrate glass and not indicative of glass color.
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Postby emmasensei » 18 Apr 2019 08:53

It definitely has a looming, imposing presence in East Dallas (one that I personally like). I attended a neighborhood meeting recently and there were some mutterings about "living in a canyon instead of a community" from a couple folks living in the M Streets. hehe.

The Knox district is going to be amazing in a couple of years! Between the massive retail work on Knox, Complete Streets on Knox and Henderson, McKinney and Cole street conversions, and various big residential projects increasing the density, I really think it'll turn into a jewel of a neighborhood. If we could just reduce the overall number of cheap mattress stores...

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 18 Apr 2019 09:45

emmasensei wrote:It definitely has a looming, imposing presence in East Dallas (one that I personally like). I attended a neighborhood meeting recently and there were some mutterings about "living in a canyon instead of a community" from a couple folks living in the M Streets. hehe.


East Dallas?!? This is far from East Dallas. I can't see it from Gaston/Ross area.

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Postby emmasensei » 18 Apr 2019 11:10

I'm within walking distance from it off Henderson, in Cochran Heights, and we very much consider ourselves part of East Dallas. *shrug*

"East Dallas" certainly covers a pretty massive area encompassing lots of different areas, and I live on the edge of it by any definition (because the other side is decidedly Highland Park) but as the neighborhoods improve and gain more services, various labels will shift and morph. Similar to the discussions we have elsewhere about how the boundaries of what is "Downtown Dallas" change radically, depending on who you ask.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 18 Apr 2019 11:29

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:East Dallas?!? This is far from East Dallas. I can't see it from Gaston/Ross area.


I had to look this up because I'm genuinely curious, but East Dallas is about as massive as Oak Cliff with dozens of neighborhoods.

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Postby eburress » 18 Apr 2019 11:33

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
emmasensei wrote:It definitely has a looming, imposing presence in East Dallas (one that I personally like). I attended a neighborhood meeting recently and there were some mutterings about "living in a canyon instead of a community" from a couple folks living in the M Streets. hehe.


East Dallas?!? This is far from East Dallas. I can't see it from Gaston/Ross area.


Surely you realize emmasensei is referring to the parts of East Dallas that can see it...

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Postby emmasensei » 18 Apr 2019 11:41

*nods, tips fedora*

indeed, chaps

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Postby LongonBigD » 18 Apr 2019 16:16

emmasensei wrote:The Knox district is going to be amazing in a couple of years! Between the massive retail work on Knox, Complete Streets on Knox and Henderson, McKinney and Cole street conversions, and various big residential projects increasing the density, I really think it'll turn into a jewel of a neighborhood. If we could just reduce the overall number of cheap mattress stores...


Don’t forget the proposed MATA extension from West Village to the curve near Javier’s and back south!

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 20 Apr 2019 10:41

Last I saw the MATA extension would only go about as far as Knox not all the way to Monticello and McKinney Ave.
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Re: Knox: Oliver + Central (18 ST)

Postby tamtagon » 20 Apr 2019 11:03

I would be fine with a phased extension to Knox, as long as the next extension reaches McFarlin Auditorium.