Thymant wrote:This development is not connected to other urban areas nor is it close to any DART lines so the parking is necessary but it would have been nice if they included a garage instead but then again that does raise the price tag in what can be considered an unproven market.
lakewoodhobo wrote:Looks like Olive Garden and Buffalo Wild Wings confirmed, with Denny’s, Fuzzy’s Taco and Jimmy John’s in negotiations.
https://oakcliff.advocatemag.com/2018/0 ... liff-soon/
Also, this development is much more fitting for the suburban, middle-class Hispanic population around the area than a trendy, $6 juice bar or coffee shop or "luxury" apartments
anon wrote:Also, this development is much more fitting for the suburban, middle-class Hispanic population around the area than a trendy, $6 juice bar or coffee shop or "luxury" apartments. And hopefully, it'll take some of the traffic from Cockrell Hill.
The problem is the form of the development.
Also, this development is much more fitting for the suburban, middle-class Hispanic population around the area than a trendy, $6 juice bar or coffee shop or "luxury" apartments.
sunbelt city where 90% of residents are comfortable and happy with big box wide open suburban development.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
Also Hispanic people don't go to Olive garden..FACTS! It's overpriced Chef Boyardee.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Also Hispanic people don't go to Olive garden..FACTS! It's overpriced Chef Boyardee.
lakewoodhobo wrote:This shopping center isn't for Oak Cliff anyway. It's for people traveling from Dallas to Arlington or Fort Worth to Dallas. Hopefully it provides enough jobs for a few local kids to help pay for school.
vman wrote:I drove past this development last week and first of all, that hotel is horribly unattractive imo. But more importantly, are we sure work is still being done on this project? The site was horribly overgrown and looked as if no activity has gone on there in a while.
R1070 wrote:Yep. The city thinks we need to have a ton of parking. They are so clueless and it's just sad.
Hopefully future generations will be able to fix the mistakes made by this generation.
VectorWega wrote:R1070 wrote:Yep. The city thinks we need to have a ton of parking. They are so clueless and it's just sad.
Hopefully future generations will be able to fix the mistakes made by this generation.
This area needs a lot of parking. Look at how packed the Walmart gets on I-30 and Cockrell hill. Parking at Sylvan 30 is becoming a problem and parking in Bishop Arts has been a major issue for years.
VectorWega wrote:I don't know why you would say that. Have you ever been to the nearby Walmart? The place is bananas. This is where everyone from West Oak Cliff and West Dallas goes to shop. Both areas are growing quite a bit so they need more retail. This is also close to a lot of blue collar workers.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:VectorWega wrote:R1070 wrote:Yep. The city thinks we need to have a ton of parking. They are so clueless and it's just sad.
Hopefully future generations will be able to fix the mistakes made by this generation.
This area needs a lot of parking. Look at how packed the Walmart gets on I-30 and Cockrell hill. Parking at Sylvan 30 is becoming a problem and parking in Bishop Arts has been a major issue for years.
Less parking more transit.
I seen that a couple of days ago. I don’t understand the point of tagging. Why would anyone want to deface their community?VectorWega wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:VectorWega wrote:
This area needs a lot of parking. Look at how packed the Walmart gets on I-30 and Cockrell hill. Parking at Sylvan 30 is becoming a problem and parking in Bishop Arts has been a major issue for years.
Less parking more transit.
I understand what the poster was saying. It's the same thing people were saying on these forums 10 years ago and it's the same thing they'll be saying 10 years from now but it's not grounded in reality whatsoever. Nobody is interested in jumping on some ghetto public transit in 100 degree heat just to go eat at Olive Garden. DFW is and always will be driver-centric. I'm sure there are trends towards using more ride sharing apps, but if you really want to do without a car and just use public transit, bikes, and legs to get around then you'll probably want to be closer to the city core because otherwise you are SOL.
BTW, I drove by this development today. The restaurants aren't even open yet and gang bangers have already tagged the retaining walls with graffiti. I'm sure it would be pretty awesome for developers to bring a high end development like The Shops at La Cantera to the hood, but really we should be thankful they are willing to develop anything at all.
VectorWega wrote:Nobody is interested in jumping on some ghetto public transit in 100 degree heat just to go eat at Olive Garden. The restaurants aren't even open yet and gang bangers have already tagged the retaining walls with graffiti. I'm sure it would be pretty awesome for developers to bring a high end development like The Shops at La Cantera to the hood, but really we should be thankful they are willing to develop anything at all.
I seen that a couple of days ago. I don’t understand the point of tagging. Why would anyone want to deface their community?
lakewoodhobo wrote:Looks like Olive Garden and Buffalo Wild Wings confirmed, with Denny’s, Fuzzy’s Taco and Jimmy John’s in negotiations.
https://oakcliff.advocatemag.com/2018/0 ... liff-soon/
R1070 wrote:In N Out is building by Love Field at Mockingbird and Maple as well.
cowboyeagle05 wrote:I'll stay with the true best burger in Texas and the country for that matter, Whataburger. My interest in In-N-Out wore off after the first 6 months of them being new to the neighborhood. This does seem like a good spot for In-N-Out though.
lakewoodhobo wrote:I still have no idea why there aren't any Dunkin Donuts in Dallas. There was something about Jerry Jones owning the franchise rights here for years but that ended in 2016.
Anyway, that would be a good chain to put here along with In-N-Out since they're less ubiquitous in the city core.
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