flyswatter wrote:Likely a new bar or restaurant will open there, although I would love to see them squeeze a residential building on that lot! As bars on McKinney Avenue slowly continue to close/renovate and bars continue to thrive/grow in Deep Ellum, this just more evidence that Uptown is becoming less of a place to go "party"?
cowboyeagle05 wrote: Deep Ellum is getting more residents on the edges so I am curious to see how that changes the bar crowd nightlife scene.
cowboyeagle05 wrote:Deep Ellum is getting more residents on the edges so I am curious to see how that changes the bar crowd nightlife scene.
tamtagon wrote:Alpha cities seem to encounter much more robust, varied and sustainable bar crowd nightlife scenes near very high population density, so all Dallas decision makers need to do is make sure everyone is safe -- residents as well as partiers.
DPatel304 wrote:I'm curious, but do you have examples of this?
WilCo wrote: Deep Ellum is just about at full capacity as it is, good luck finding parking there on any weekend night.
tanzoak wrote:DPatel304 wrote:I'm curious, but do you have examples of this?
Typically, bar scenes are in dense neighborhoods, while party scenes are in more industrial neighborhoods. NYC bar scene in the Lower East Side and party scene in Bushwick. SF bar scene in The Mission, party scene in western Soma and West Oakland. To have a bar scene removed from where lots of people are is strange.. that's what the bar scene is all about!
edit: by party scene, I mean like underground/warehouse parties
tamtagon wrote:tanzoak wrote:DPatel304 wrote:I'm curious, but do you have examples of this?
Typically, bar scenes are in dense neighborhoods, while party scenes are in more industrial neighborhoods. NYC bar scene in the Lower East Side and party scene in Bushwick. SF bar scene in The Mission, party scene in western Soma and West Oakland. To have a bar scene removed from where lots of people are is strange.. that's what the bar scene is all about!
edit: by party scene, I mean like underground/warehouse parties
Thanks, that what I mean...
I think remaining blue laws in Dallas County work against the norm observed in bigger population centers and places with higher population density. In general, Dallas south of the river is not allowed to have neighborhood bars or a 'bar scene' and that contributes a wildness to other parts of town. Mentioned in the Las Colinas thread is the string of liquor store on NWHighway just inside Dallas city limits; the dramatic swings in nightlife observed in Deep Ellum then Uptown are associated, though other factors have driven those ones.
Uptown is going to settle very nicely into the type of nightlife scene Dallas hasn't really had before and the biggest proponent of a scene reaching well beyond the region is population density.
I'm genuinely curious, because I think you're onto something, but can you elaborate?
The_Overdog wrote:I'm genuinely curious, because I think you're onto something, but can you elaborate?
I think the compass direction is wrong. It's north that has the population and a bar scene that used to be nonexistent but now is in it's infancy. That's the overflow - nonresident spending leading to a desire for 'entertainment districts' rather than a 'neighborhood' bar scene.
I'm still a little confused, are you saying high population areas that didn't used to have bars are now getting them, so that is pulling away from other parts of town? Didn't think we ever had many bars outside of Deep Ellum/Lower Greenville/now uptown
DPatel304 wrote:I was out at the Shops at Legacy a couple months ago, and was surprised at how crowded it was and how young the crowd was too. I suppose it makes sense, given the amount of people that live in the vicinity, but when I used to go there 5-6 years ago, it had more of an older crowd and a neighborhood bar feel to it. When I went recently, a couple of the bars felt like Uptown bars when you were inside. This was right before Christmas time, so perhaps I just went out on a busier than normal night seeing as how there were probably a lot of students returning home for the holidays.
The same thing seems to be happening in Austin too, which I noticed the last time I went to the Domain. The cost of living near Downtown Dallas and Austin is high and many jobs are up north in both cities, so there will always be that crowd of younger people who don't want to pay more for rent, or don't want to put up with the commute. Seems there are enough of these young people to create somewhat of a party atmosphere up in the 'burbs.
I'm not sure what Addison is like these days, but they have a few bars that get decently busy. I haven't been there in years, but seemed like an older crowd compared to Plano and Uptown.
cowboyeagle05 wrote:There is a perceived difference in rent between Urban Dallas and the burbs and it's not as far off as some people assume sometimes. I have friends who tell me they couldn't afford to live in town they just don't want to pay that much and when I tell them my rent they are shocked. I live in a relatively new unit with granite countertops and views of the skyline and 15 mins from Downtown by bus. A few of these people live in older units in Addison for example and it just seems to come down to a lot of factors that include what self-done apartment research people do, what they assume without doing the research and what apartment locators send them oh and the time of the year. I got my rate when my building was being taken over by new management so they were trying to retain and attract new rent while they began the process to take over the property. Personally, I think going forward with my knowledge of real estate comings and goings I might try to seek out properties under new management and in the winter months when they are desperate for move in's. My lease this year will end in December so we will see.
Redblock wrote:Crews were moving the furnishings out of Sambuca yesterday.
The venue formerly known as Uptown Urban Market is now called The Commons at Cedar Springs, and will celebrate its grand opening on March 3 with an amusingly dubbed event called Brunch the Pain Away.
They've replaced the former food stands with a fresh new lineup that includes OMG Tacos, Totta Yama Sushi, Ampersand Coffee, and a new pizzeria concept called Slice-O Pizza.
Other big changes include longer hours and a remodel of the interior to give it more of a lounge feel. Stuffed couches and sexy lighting make it feel less clinical and more like a bar.
"Our main goal is to have something inviting for the neighborhood, for the young professionals and students that live and work in the area," he says.
dzh wrote:I've heard a rumor that Concrete Cowboy is getting ready to move to Deep Ellum, not sure how true it is however
uptown74 wrote:Just saw this segment on WFAA.. Apparently The Den on Mckinney ave closed recently and Shell Shack is closing soon.
http://www.wfaa.com/video/news/new-visi ... 87-8028816
^ You guys are just too young. There used to be plenty of cheap places in the 80's and into the 90's.
Velvet Taco finds perfect home in Uptown Dallas taqueria location
here's a major taco hand-off happening in Uptown Dallas, as one gourmet taqueria leaves to be replaced by another: Dallas taqueria chain Velvet Taco will open a new location at 3411 McKinney Ave. in late summer 2018.
"We want to provide guests the complete Velvet Taco experience and that includes remodeling," Dover says. "We anticipate a late summer to early fall opening."
A year in the making, MidiCi, the pizza chain based in Los Angeles, is opening its first location in Dallas on April 12 — and has two more Dallas locations in the works.
Established in 2015, MidiCi does Neapolitan pizza in an upscale atmosphere, but with the affordability of a casual restaurant concept. Its pizzas run $8 to $13, rather than the $15 and up prices you might see at some of its Neapolitan peers.
The spot that Midici will take in West Village is next to Cru Wine Bar and across from Mi Cocina in the complex's South Alley. It faces out on Lemmon Avenue in a troubled spot that has been home to a couple of bars, including Lemon Bar and Lazare.
Plano pizzeria with fine wine on tap makes Uptown Dallas debut
There's a good new pizza coming to Dallas, with the arrival of Plano pizzeria Sixty Vines, which is opening its second location in Uptown on April 16.
Located at 500 Crescent Court, #160, the restaurant took over the former Palomino Euro Bistro space, where it will feature an indoor/outdoor design with grape vines, wine barrels, and harvest tools creating an ambience similar to a vineyard tasting room.
R1070 wrote:There appears to be some build out taking place in the previous Idle Rich space on McKinney. I don't know why they didn't just let Idle Rich stay open. I felt like they were a good neighborhood spot that didn't get too wild.
Circo Will Soon Be Dallas’ Most Over-the-Top Restaurant
Nearly two years after announcing its planned expansion into Dallas, it appears that Circo will finally debut in Uptown at the end of May.
The spinoff from New York’s now-shuttered Le Cirque will occupy two floors of the new 22-story high rise at 2619 McKinney Avenue, and will feature a resort-style pool and spa along with the restaurant. Former press releases announced that the restaurant would offer drink service in the bathrooms, and the pool? Glass bottomed, y’all.
DPatel304 wrote:Circo Will Soon Be Dallas’ Most Over-the-Top Restaurant
Nearly two years after announcing its planned expansion into Dallas, it appears that Circo will finally debut in Uptown at the end of May.
The spinoff from New York’s now-shuttered Le Cirque will occupy two floors of the new 22-story high rise at 2619 McKinney Avenue, and will feature a resort-style pool and spa along with the restaurant. Former press releases announced that the restaurant would offer drink service in the bathrooms, and the pool? Glass bottomed, y’all.
https://dallas.eater.com/2018/4/26/1728 ... g-may-2018
This place sounds ridiculous and over the top, and I'm not even sure if this building is the best fit for it. Actually, after reading the article, I'm not even sure what it is. It sounds like it's just a fancy restaurant that is on the roof and has a pool?
Fresh fish and local ingredients drive Namo's simple, yet modern approach in the kitchen, where the focus is on the purity and authenticity of our reinterpretation of Japanese cuisine.
lakewoodhobo wrote:I was in San Antonio over the weekend and saw the original Hot Joy on South Alamo Street. This area of town is known as King William District or Southtown and is culturally similar to Bishop Arts / North Oak Cliff. Point being that picking Uptown for their Dallas expansion was the absolute worst rookie mistake they could've made.
If your product appeals to a certain market in one city, find that customer base in the next city you want to expand to instead of picking the trendy upscale place you read about on Yelp and Zagat.