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More than 1,500 apartments are under construction at CityLine and next door. And project developer KDC is eyeing a new office tower that will bring more businesses to the project.

"We have a tower that we are planning just east that will be 400,000 square feet and 17 stories," said Walt Mountford, KDC executive vice president. "It will sit right on State Street and will be a multi-tenant building."

The 148-room Aloft CityLine Hotel that's still under construction will open in February next to State Farm's offices.

Plans are in the works for a multi-screen AMC cinema on the east side of Plano Road.

Adjacent to CityLine and DART's commuter rail station, Trammell Crow Residential is building over 700 apartments in its Alexan CityLine project. The massive residential community will eventually have more than 1,000 apartments on both sides of CityLine Drive.

Here's the announcement of the apartment complex next to the Spring Creek nature area

Here's the announcement of the apartment complex next to the Spring Creek nature area.

I wonder if there are any plans for improving walkability in the area. Plano Rd doesn't seem like a picnic to traverse at the moment. Would a pedestrian bridge be completely ridiculous?

The_Overdog wrote:12 story 200 room hotel planned for the corner of US75 and PGBT Turnpike. I thought the hotel was going to be more internal to CityLine originally. I have not seen the brand mentioned yet.

exelone31 wrote:

The_Overdog wrote:12 story 200 room hotel planned for the corner of US75 and PGBT Turnpike. I thought the hotel was going to be more internal to CityLine originally. I have not seen the brand mentioned yet.

Wow, nice! I wonder how it will connect to everything else, assuming it's on the southeast corner. Hopefully some ground floor retail to align with the Alexan (?) that is between this hotel and the DART station.

It was announced a while back. It is going to be a Drury Inn.

The_Overdog wrote:

It was announced a while back. It is going to be a Drury Inn.

A 12 story Drury Inn? Is it going to be the tallest one...in the world?

Tnexster wrote:

The_Overdog wrote:

It was announced a while back. It is going to be a Drury Inn.

A 12 story Drury Inn? Is it going to be the tallest one...in the world?

No there is one in downtown San Antonio that is 24 floors.

The_Overdog wrote:

It was announced a while back. It is going to be a Drury Inn.

A 12 story Drury Inn? Is it going to be the tallest one...in the world?

exelone31 wrote:CityLine (west side) has always had a bit of an untapped potential feel to me, even before COVID. I can't really figure out why it isn't more successful, perhaps the fact that there's not really anything besides restaurants there. If they mixed in some other retail (aside from the nail salon), maybe people would hang around a bit more.

cowboyeagle05 wrote:^ I visited the area one week day evening and while it has everything you would expect to make things a bigger success; a grocery store lots of walkable sidewalks, plenty of office workers, decent restaurants with customers, hotels and a nearby walking trail it still seems so lifeless. Like it seemed more like a rendering of modern mixed use project frozen in time rather than real life. It exhumed the common complaint about suburban single family home neighborhoods as lifeless without charm and factory produced without uniqueness or warmth. I mean I am sure on the tax roles everything is rosy for the city and I'm sure State Farm is happy and that Whole Foods is doing decently well but I don't know it seemed staged rather than living. Can I say Truman Show? Which was filmed in a rather important mixed use development project that has been accused of similar things in the past.

Maybe its one of those things where many of us wish for everything to be hopping with energy but sometimes these developments are sleepy but not a failure. They are equivalent to a quiet suburban neighborhood where people enjoy that they aren't living on top of a bar scene or nightlife that they really can eat, grocery shop, go to work if that's all they want to do. I don't expect every mixed use to be the West Village popping with life and busy city life 7 days a week.

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Welcome to the hybrid known as suburban disconnected sprawl disguised as walkable live work play. Lip service to the cause but is implemented in a way that is more carboard cut out rather then firmly understood urban fabric.

quixomniac wrote:It should be closer to Park Lane which also has Whole Foods and a dart station nearby.

OrangeMike wrote:Park Lane the shopping complex completely ignores Park Lane the DART station. There was no attempt at all to make the train be a convenient option to go there. CityLine at least somewhat tries to integrate its DART station into its streetscape and built environment. Neither one is transit-oriented development though, with their massive parking garages, but at least part of CityLine is transit-adjacent in a way Park Lane intentionally is not.

The_Overdog wrote:If you go early in the morning the trails around there are jammed, so I think it's just a different crowd. Also I don't think there is a true night spot (no real bar, or club) for late-night action. The design is also kind of weird -just really a single street through the middle of the high-rise offices with no large courtyard for people to hang out in.

exelone31 wrote:It's really tough to consider the Whole Foods strip section as even part of the "CityLine" TOD, since it is separated by a fairly large street in Plano Rd.

There's ton of residential in that immediate area, and seemingly more on the way all the time. I think if some of the restaurants/retail were a bit more diversified, it could maintain a crowd. They seem to have programming in that little part area pretty regularly, and there could certainly be COVID-related impact too.

I'm also guessing the LOOK cinema idea was scrapped? I think that was supposed to go behind the Whole Foods at one point, but I haven't heard anything about that in a long time.

Addison wrote:

exelone31 wrote:It's really tough to consider the Whole Foods strip section as even part of the "CityLine" TOD, since it is separated by a fairly large street in Plano Rd.

There's ton of residential in that immediate area, and seemingly more on the way all the time. I think if some of the restaurants/retail were a bit more diversified, it could maintain a crowd. They seem to have programming in that little part area pretty regularly, and there could certainly be COVID-related impact too.

I'm also guessing the LOOK cinema idea was scrapped? I think that was supposed to go behind the Whole Foods at one point, but I haven't heard anything about that in a long time.

Given that LOOK was forced to permanently close their Addison location due to COVID, I would think any plans for a LOOK cinema in this project are definitely scrapped.

Dallas-based architecture firm Corgan designed the CityLine towers, which can be connected with a sky bridge. The high-rises would have curved and patterned glass and metal exteriors with office space built on top of the parking.

The buildings would be constructed east of Plano Road along the south side of Bush Turnpike.

The buildings, called Five Cityline, Six Cityline and Seven Cityline, will include 18, 13 and 15 stories, respectively.