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Tucy I wrote:Just to add a bit more context, in the past year, Galleria Dallas has added and lost the following stores:

New to Galleria Dallas:
3.6.5 (Local?)
Kittenish (stayed briefly; see Departed Galleria Dallas list below)
3:16 Collection (Local)
KPop Trove (Local)
Knots & Loops (Local)
Deseri (Local)

Departed Galleria Dallas:
Green Biotics
T-Mobile
Image
Tippy Tot Shoes
Papaya
Bearfruit Jewelry
Bonsai Paper Company (local)
Kittenish
Toni & Guy
Cotopaxi
Express
Eye Candy Courture (Local-ish)
Marciano
365+ isn’t local btw, it’s one of those Image/Fashion Q type of filler stores that sell wholesale clothes. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen it in another state before. Image used to be in a space by H&M. I think 365+ and Image might actually be the same store.
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Addison wrote:
Tucy I wrote:
Proquest20 wrote:
There’s no way Cotopaxi was meant to be permanent, they kept the same storefront as Apricot Lane. Eye Candy wasn’t a big chain though, think their other location was in the mid-range wing of Houston’s Galleria.
Well, it was more than a seasonal popup. Perhaps a test-run which apparently failed. Agreed regarding Eye Candy (I think the other store was/is in Willowbrook in northwest Houston. So that leaves us with 3 national chains and a "local" that pulled out and 2 locals that came in. Not a good trajectory. Regarding Express, it's almost inconceivable that Galleria Dallas wouldn't have been willing to reduce their rent if that's all it would have taken to keep them.
To address your last point, I suspect it's a combination of 2 factors at play.

1. Delusions of grandeur. Because they still have Nordstrom and a few luxury boutiques, they're under the impression that they can charge a premium on rent as other stores and shoppers alike are beating down the door to replace them.

2. The fact that the Galleria has a *TON* of debt it needs to pay off, on top of a lor of deferred maintenance to take care of *AND* it needs the cash flow to help eventually fund the forthcoming redevelopment in whatever form/scope that may be (that's probably still in flux & uncertain as well), thus they can't afford to reduce rents even if they wanted to without hurting its own balance sheet/profitability.
A lot of malls have Nordstrom, the majority of their locations are on par with Dillard’s and Belk. It’s just their flagship stores (Galleria Houston, NorthPark) that are really luxe, the Galleria Dallas location cutting down on square footage and their designer selection should be a sign the Galleria needs to come to terms that they’re just a regular mall. For a mid range mall, it’d a great mall. For one that wants to be upscale, it could be doing way better.
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R1070 wrote:
Addison wrote:One last thing:

I'm at the point where I dread coming into this thread whenever there's a new post. Other than the recent Uniqlo announcement (and the wind has even been taken out of that since they're also opening at Parks Mall & Stonebriar), it's been nothing but depressing updates whether it's more national/upscale retailers vacating the mall or the mall's management only bring in these no-name mom & pop boutiques to replace them.

It's almost night & day from the NorthPark and Stonebriar threads...
Stonebriar has really stepped up it's game. A lot of the local (generic) stores have gone to make way for trendy national retailers. I still have faith in Galleria, they just need to find the right recipe for success.
I wish they’d give it a refresh so it doesn’t feel like I’m stepping back into 2006. I saw some renderings a while ago but I don’t think they were meant to be realistic.

Legacy West being next door seems to be a big help.
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Proquest20 wrote:
R1070 wrote:
Addison wrote:One last thing:

I'm at the point where I dread coming into this thread whenever there's a new post. Other than the recent Uniqlo announcement (and the wind has even been taken out of that since they're also opening at Parks Mall & Stonebriar), it's been nothing but depressing updates whether it's more national/upscale retailers vacating the mall or the mall's management only bring in these no-name mom & pop boutiques to replace them.

It's almost night & day from the NorthPark and Stonebriar threads...
Stonebriar has really stepped up it's game. A lot of the local (generic) stores have gone to make way for trendy national retailers. I still have faith in Galleria, they just need to find the right recipe for success.
I wish they’d give it a refresh so it doesn’t feel like I’m stepping back into 2006. I saw some renderings a while ago but I don’t think they were meant to be realistic.

Legacy West being next door seems to be a big help.
Better than the Galleria, which feels as though you're stepping back into 1996...
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Addison wrote:
Proquest20 wrote:
R1070 wrote: Stonebriar has really stepped up it's game. A lot of the local (generic) stores have gone to make way for trendy national retailers. I still have faith in Galleria, they just need to find the right recipe for success.
I wish they’d give it a refresh so it doesn’t feel like I’m stepping back into 2006. I saw some renderings a while ago but I don’t think they were meant to be realistic.

Legacy West being next door seems to be a big help.
Better than the Galleria, which feels as though you're stepping back into 1996...
Really? I feel like the common areas seem quite modern, I like the blues, the cloud structures in the air, the glass ceiling… palm trees seem out of place in Texas but ig are a nice touch. The parts of the Galleria that need work? Macy’s, especially the parking garages (that stairwell is something out of a horror film)… the “front” of the Galleria (west side) looked so much better when it was fully leased, but looks a lot better (cleaner and less cluttered to me) than Stonebriar’s (view from south side). Visually, I have to give it to Galleria. Would maybe like Stonebriar a little more if it had a major facelift.
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Proquest20 wrote:
Addison wrote:
Tucy I wrote:
Well, it was more than a seasonal popup. Perhaps a test-run which apparently failed. Agreed regarding Eye Candy (I think the other store was/is in Willowbrook in northwest Houston. So that leaves us with 3 national chains and a "local" that pulled out and 2 locals that came in. Not a good trajectory. Regarding Express, it's almost inconceivable that Galleria Dallas wouldn't have been willing to reduce their rent if that's all it would have taken to keep them.
To address your last point, I suspect it's a combination of 2 factors at play.

1. Delusions of grandeur. Because they still have Nordstrom and a few luxury boutiques, they're under the impression that they can charge a premium on rent as other stores and shoppers alike are beating down the door to replace them.

2. The fact that the Galleria has a *TON* of debt it needs to pay off, on top of a lor of deferred maintenance to take care of *AND* it needs the cash flow to help eventually fund the forthcoming redevelopment in whatever form/scope that may be (that's probably still in flux & uncertain as well), thus they can't afford to reduce rents even if they wanted to without hurting its own balance sheet/profitability.
A lot of malls have Nordstrom, the majority of their locations are on par with Dillard’s and Belk. It’s just their flagship stores (Galleria Houston, NorthPark) that are really luxe, the Galleria Dallas location cutting down on square footage and their designer selection should be a sign the Galleria needs to come to terms that they’re just a regular mall. For a mid range mall, it’d a great mall. For one that wants to be upscale, it could be doing way better.
I'm pretty sure the Galleria Nordstrom doesn't have a Collectors section anymore.
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acclar11 wrote:
Proquest20 wrote:
Addison wrote:
To address your last point, I suspect it's a combination of 2 factors at play.

1. Delusions of grandeur. Because they still have Nordstrom and a few luxury boutiques, they're under the impression that they can charge a premium on rent as other stores and shoppers alike are beating down the door to replace them.

2. The fact that the Galleria has a *TON* of debt it needs to pay off, on top of a lor of deferred maintenance to take care of *AND* it needs the cash flow to help eventually fund the forthcoming redevelopment in whatever form/scope that may be (that's probably still in flux & uncertain as well), thus they can't afford to reduce rents even if they wanted to without hurting its own balance sheet/profitability.
A lot of malls have Nordstrom, the majority of their locations are on par with Dillard’s and Belk. It’s just their flagship stores (Galleria Houston, NorthPark) that are really luxe, the Galleria Dallas location cutting down on square footage and their designer selection should be a sign the Galleria needs to come to terms that they’re just a regular mall. For a mid range mall, it’d a great mall. For one that wants to be upscale, it could be doing way better.
I'm pretty sure the Galleria Nordstrom doesn't have a Collectors section anymore.
That's what I mean when I say they got rid of all their designer selection. I used to see Prada bags as I walked into the Galleria, these days I don't.
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Proquest20 wrote:
acclar11 wrote:
Proquest20 wrote:
A lot of malls have Nordstrom, the majority of their locations are on par with Dillard’s and Belk. It’s just their flagship stores (Galleria Houston, NorthPark) that are really luxe, the Galleria Dallas location cutting down on square footage and their designer selection should be a sign the Galleria needs to come to terms that they’re just a regular mall. For a mid range mall, it’d a great mall. For one that wants to be upscale, it could be doing way better.
I'm pretty sure the Galleria Nordstrom doesn't have a Collectors section anymore.
That's what I mean when I say they got rid of all their designer selection. I used to see Prada bags as I walked into the Galleria, these days I don't.
They used to have YSL, Burberry, and Prada sections in the handbag area, and now just have Marc Jacobs and Tory Burch. The men's section is basically all athleisure brands, and the women's area isn't anything special. The nicest brands I saw last time were Vince., Lafayette 148, and Veronica Beard.
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acclar11 wrote:
Proquest20 wrote:
acclar11 wrote: I'm pretty sure the Galleria Nordstrom doesn't have a Collectors section anymore.
That's what I mean when I say they got rid of all their designer selection. I used to see Prada bags as I walked into the Galleria, these days I don't.
They used to have YSL, Burberry, and Prada sections in the handbag area, and now just have Marc Jacobs and Tory Burch. The men's section is basically all athleisure brands, and the women's area isn't anything special. The nicest brands I saw last time were Vince., Lafayette 148, and Veronica Beard.
Basically the same as Stonebriar
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Addison wrote:
Tucy I wrote:
Addison wrote:
To address your last point, I suspect it's a combination of 2 factors at play.

1. Delusions of grandeur. Because they still have Nordstrom and a few luxury boutiques, they're under the impression that they can charge a premium on rent as other stores and shoppers alike are beating down the door to replace them.

2. The fact that the Galleria has a *TON* of debt it needs to pay off, on top of a lor of deferred maintenance to take care of *AND* it needs the cash flow to help eventually fund the forthcoming redevelopment in whatever form/scope that may be (that's probably still in flux & uncertain as well), thus they can't afford to reduce rents even if they wanted to without hurting its own balance sheet/profitability.
The lender took the property back from the borrower. The debt is gone.
That's not how debt works (it doesn't just "go away" when the creditor takes possession of the lien on a property).

Someone, often times the borrower and/or the benefactor, ends up paying for it somehow. UBS may have been released of its obligation to MetLife, but as far as the Galleria itself (if not with evictions), it's with damage to their credit reputation (making future borrowing much more expensive), the renegotiation of the terms for the unpaid debt (I.E. management could be mandated to bring in a certain amount of revenue and keep expenses at a certain level until its paid off) and the lost equity.
As far as the property and its operations are concerned, that is exactly how it works. Galleria Dallas is no longer burdened by the debt. The former owner or a parent company guarantor may still owe money on the debt if the debt was recourse, but that has no impact on the operations of the shopping mall. The former owner is no longer involved in the management of the mall.
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https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/ ... 2024014672
Lululemon is expanding, but not sure to which storefront.
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https://6437794.fs1.hubspotusercontent- ... 5.2024.pdf
Former Belk/Saks is now listed as "Leased and Opening TBA" on the first and second floor. Any ideas regarding what the new tenant might be? No TDLR permits have been filed, and nothing is listed on Trademark's site.
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acclar11 wrote:https://6437794.fs1.hubspotusercontent- ... 5.2024.pdf
Former Belk/Saks is now listed as "Leased and Opening TBA" on the first and second floor. Any ideas regarding what the new tenant might be? No TDLR permits have been filed, and nothing is listed on Trademark's site.
Good find!

I'm interested to find out who the tenant is as well.

I also assume with Uniqlo moving into the other adjacent space that had been vacant for sometimes, the redevlopment plans are in flux at best.
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Uniqlo will take over both floors

https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/

Uniqlo will also open at Stonebriar and The Parks malls
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Triggerman wrote:Uniqlo will take over both floors

https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/

Uniqlo will also open at Stonebriar and The Parks malls
Uniqlo is taking mall space, not the already existing Saks place.
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Very intriguing.... It's about 100,000 square feet total.
Any guesses as to who is taking over the 2 floors?

Wild guesses:
-Saks returning
-Bloomingdales
-Eataly moving from NorthPark and doubling space
-Some sort of movie theater complex (Like Cinepolis, which cancelled plans to open at Willow Bend)(Or replacement for AMC Valley View)
-Some sort of "experiential" thing taking the space temporarily
-Dillard's, Neiman–Marcus, Crate and Barrel, Restoration Hardware, Crayola Experience, or Equinox relocating from Willow Bend before the redevelopment begins
-Something depressing like a Sam's, Kohl's, Marshall's, Ross, Homegoods, Burlington, or combo of the above

EDIT: Bj's Wholesale Club has also announced it's entry into North Texas. Also around 100,000 square feet on average per store.

Extremely wild, insane guesses:
-HEB OMG
-Target relocating from Montfort
-New Ikea small format store (not the pickup only ones) which are about 100k square feet
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Matt777 wrote:Very intriguing.... It's about 100,000 square feet total.
Any guesses as to who is taking over the 2 floors?

Wild guesses:
-Saks returning
-Bloomingdales
-Eataly moving from NorthPark and doubling space
-Some sort of movie theater complex (Like Cinepolis, which cancelled plans to open at Willow Bend)(Or replacement for AMC Valley View)
-Some sort of "experiential" thing taking the space temporarily
-Dillard's, Neiman–Marcus, Crate and Barrel, Restoration Hardware, Crayola Experience, or Equinox relocating from Willow Bend before the redevelopment begins
-Something depressing like a Sam's, Kohl's, Marshall's, Ross, Homegoods, Burlington, or combo of the above

EDIT: Bj's Wholesale Club has also announced it's entry into North Texas. Also around 100,000 square feet on average per store.

Extremely wild, insane guesses:
-HEB OMG
-Target relocating from Montfort
-New Ikea small format store (not the pickup only ones) which are about 100k square feet
If it were Crate and Barrel or Equinox I think they’d rather take the old American Girl.
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Matt777 wrote:Very intriguing.... It's about 100,000 square feet total.
Any guesses as to who is taking over the 2 floors?

Wild guesses:
-Saks returning
-Bloomingdales
-Eataly moving from NorthPark and doubling space
-Some sort of movie theater complex (Like Cinepolis, which cancelled plans to open at Willow Bend)(Or replacement for AMC Valley View)
-Some sort of "experiential" thing taking the space temporarily
-Dillard's, Neiman–Marcus, Crate and Barrel, Restoration Hardware, Crayola Experience, or Equinox relocating from Willow Bend before the redevelopment begins
-Something depressing like a Sam's, Kohl's, Marshall's, Ross, Homegoods, Burlington, or combo of the above

EDIT: Bj's Wholesale Club has also announced it's entry into North Texas. Also around 100,000 square feet on average per store.

Extremely wild, insane guesses:
-HEB OMG
-Target relocating from Montfort
-New Ikea small format store (not the pickup only ones) which are about 100k square feet
So process of elimination:

Saks = Not happening. They've made it clear they want to do a hostile takeover of Neimans. That will eventually be how they return to DFW (when it happens).

Bloomingdales = *MAYBE*, but IMO they would be a bettter fit for Stonebriar.

Eataly = That makes no sense IMO

Movie Theatre = Doubt it. I imagine they would tear down the entire space though and rebuild it to accommodate a movie theatre. Plus, I don't know of any modern day theatres that would take up 100K feet on 2 floors. Not to mention, they would be competing with 2 others theatres (EVO and AMC) right up the road.

Experiential = With Trademark, probably the most likely outcome, but I'm open to surprises.

Dillard's & Neiman Marcus = Way too close to both Willow Bend (which supposedly isn't closing) and NorthPark, so that ain't happening.

Crate & Barrel + Equinox = Given that the Galleria recently lost both Pottery Barn & Williams Sonoma to Park + Preston, I doubt it. Plus, there's no indication the Willow Bend stores will close anytime soon.

Restoration Hardware = Funny thing is, they actually moved *UP* to Willow Bend from the Galleria area about a decade ago because the store was fledgling in that location. They used to be where the now shuttered Z Gallerie is. So I don't see then moving back down.

Crayola Experience = Now I can see this happening

Kohl's = I doubt it. Even their normal size stores are only 80K sq. ft., and they've recently their focus to much smaller stores (35K sq. ft.).

Sam's / HomeGoods / Ross / Burlington = Every single one of these places already have off-mall stores have than 10 minutes from the Galleria. So I don't see any of these happening.

H-E-B = Not happening. We've discussed how tedious it is to park at the Galleria, so why do you think a grocery store (a place where people want to get in/out of easy) would sign up for that? If thry end up anywhere in the vicinity (doubt it), I suspect it would be on the Seritage land that's for sale at Valley View.

Target = They *JUST* renovated the Montfort store, so I doubt they're going anywhere any time soon.

Ikea small format store = I can also see this happening.

Another dark horse would be Von Maur. 100K is a bit on the small end, but they do have locations around that size. It would be the perfect fit for the Galleria and it's a new-to-market department store that wouldn't have competition from other malls in DFW. I know I've heard rumblings over the years that they've been wanting to dip their toe in the DFW market too (given they've been doing alright in places such as Atlanta, Birmingham and OKC).
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I met Angie Freed a year ago or so, and she said they had been talking to an entertainment company that was possibly going to fill the space. She said that no retail tenants were interested in it (at the time).
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I’m thinking that space will be a gym of some sort.
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Addison wrote:
Matt777 wrote:Very intriguing.... It's about 100,000 square feet total.
Any guesses as to who is taking over the 2 floors?

Wild guesses:
-Saks returning
-Bloomingdales
-Eataly moving from NorthPark and doubling space
-Some sort of movie theater complex (Like Cinepolis, which cancelled plans to open at Willow Bend)(Or replacement for AMC Valley View)
-Some sort of "experiential" thing taking the space temporarily
-Dillard's, Neiman–Marcus, Crate and Barrel, Restoration Hardware, Crayola Experience, or Equinox relocating from Willow Bend before the redevelopment begins
-Something depressing like a Sam's, Kohl's, Marshall's, Ross, Homegoods, Burlington, or combo of the above

EDIT: Bj's Wholesale Club has also announced it's entry into North Texas. Also around 100,000 square feet on average per store.

Extremely wild, insane guesses:
-HEB OMG
-Target relocating from Montfort
-New Ikea small format store (not the pickup only ones) which are about 100k square feet
So process of elimination:

Saks = Not happening. They've made it clear they want to do a hostile takeover of Neimans. That will eventually be how they return to DFW (when it happens).

Bloomingdales = *MAYBE*, but IMO they would be a bettter fit for Stonebriar.

Eataly = That makes no sense IMO

Movie Theatre = Doubt it. I imagine they would tear down the entire space though and rebuild it to accommodate a movie theatre. Plus, I don't know of any modern day theatres that would take up 100K feet on 2 floors. Not to mention, they would be competing with 2 others theatres (EVO and AMC) right up the road.

Experiential = With Trademark, probably the most likely outcome, but I'm open to surprises.

Dillard's & Neiman Marcus = Way too close to both Willow Bend (which supposedly isn't closing) and NorthPark, so that ain't happening.

Crate & Barrel + Equinox = Given that the Galleria recently lost both Pottery Barn & Williams Sonoma to Park + Preston, I doubt it. Plus, there's no indication the Willow Bend stores will close anytime soon.

Restoration Hardware = Funny thing is, they actually moved *UP* to Willow Bend from the Galleria area about a decade ago because the store was fledgling in that location. They used to be where the now shuttered Z Gallerie is. So I don't see then moving back down.

Crayola Experience = Now I can see this happening

Kohl's = I doubt it. Even their normal size stores are only 80K sq. ft., and they've recently their focus to much smaller stores (35K sq. ft.).

Sam's / HomeGoods / Ross / Burlington = Every single one of these places already have off-mall stores have than 10 minutes from the Galleria. So I don't see any of these happening.

H-E-B = Not happening. We've discussed how tedious it is to park at the Galleria, so why do you think a grocery store (a place where people want to get in/out of easy) would sign up for that? If thry end up anywhere in the vicinity (doubt it), I suspect it would be on the Seritage land that's for sale at Valley View.

Target = They *JUST* renovated the Montfort store, so I doubt they're going anywhere any time soon.

Ikea small format store = I can also see this happening.

Another dark horse would be Von Maur. 100K is a bit on the small end, but they do have locations around that size. It would be the perfect fit for the Galleria and it's a new-to-market department store that wouldn't have competition from other malls in DFW. I know I've heard rumblings over the years that they've been wanting to dip their toe in the DFW market too (given they've been doing alright in places such as Atlanta, Birmingham and OKC).
I mean I think Bloomingdales would like to start at the mall with a Louis Vuitton, Tiffany’s, and Gucci…
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What about Primark? UK chain that recently entered the US and is spreading on the East Coast with plans to open stores around the US. It's kind of like H&M and Marshall's had a weird baby from what I can tell. Everything is really cheap and has a fast fashion type vibe to it, but its more basic than somewhere like Uniqlo.It favors mall locations, most of the new American locations are in old mall anchors (there are a LOT of enclosed 80s era malls in New Jersey and Pennsylvania where it has a beachhead), and has a department store aesthetic BUT it's also competitive in the current market. Also they googling their expansion, they have a relationship with Simon which owns the Galleria (right?).

It's kind of novel and trendy enough to fit the image the Galleria's management would want but at the same time it's mass market enough to move into a place that isn't as luxury as it used to be.

There aren't that many other places in DFW where a hypothetical Primark entrance to our market would go, unless maybe they built a new standalone non-mall store from the ground up, which would have to be somewhere like Alliance in Fort Worth. It wouldn't fit in a overly expensive snooty place like Legacy West or Northpark, but I would think they would want to do better than somewhere like Town East Mall or North East Mall. Stonebriar doesn't have any room, Willow Bend is a sinking ship. Parks at Arlington or Grapevine Mills would be the only other locations in the Metroplex that would fit the pattern.
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Is Uniqlo opening on floors 2 & 3? I assume Lulu will move into the space Express is vacating. Bexcin (local retailer at Stonebriar) will take the space that housed Eye Candy Couture. I like the Deseri store and product, I wish her a lot of luck and success. The new Gregory’s spot next to Gucci is like a homecoming for them as they were next to Gucci years ago. H&M Home is open and is a cute little store for accessory items (the first in the SW). I’m hoping we see some success come to Galleria with other unique additions in the future.
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FWIW, I think the foregoing has understated the size of the Marshall Field/Saks/Belk store. The building is slightly more than 180,000 square feet, so presumably two fliers would be slightly more than 120,000 square feet.
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mhainli wrote: 26 May 2024 00:15 I’m thinking that space will be a gym of some sort.
Maybe Lifetime Fitness will come here instead of waiting forever for the Midtown development to materialize. The new Lifetime in Irving stays packed from open to close, so it could bring some much needed bodies to the mall.
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Tucy I wrote: 29 May 2024 10:48 FWIW, I think the foregoing has understated the size of the Marshall Field/Saks/Belk store. The building is slightly more than 180,000 square feet, so presumably two fliers would be slightly more than 120,000 square feet.

A lot of what was mentioned sounds more suitable for the American Girl space.
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zaphod wrote: 28 May 2024 21:32 What about Primark? UK chain that recently entered the US and is spreading on the East Coast with plans to open stores around the US. It's kind of like H&M and Marshall's had a weird baby from what I can tell. Everything is really cheap and has a fast fashion type vibe to it, but its more basic than somewhere like Uniqlo.It favors mall locations, most of the new American locations are in old mall anchors (there are a LOT of enclosed 80s era malls in New Jersey and Pennsylvania where it has a beachhead), and has a department store aesthetic BUT it's also competitive in the current market. Also they googling their expansion, they have a relationship with Simon which owns the Galleria (right?).

It's kind of novel and trendy enough to fit the image the Galleria's management would want but at the same time it's mass market enough to move into a place that isn't as luxury as it used to be.

There aren't that many other places in DFW where a hypothetical Primark entrance to our market would go, unless maybe they built a new standalone non-mall store from the ground up, which would have to be somewhere like Alliance in Fort Worth. It wouldn't fit in a overly expensive snooty place like Legacy West or Northpark, but I would think they would want to do better than somewhere like Town East Mall or North East Mall. Stonebriar doesn't have any room, Willow Bend is a sinking ship. Parks at Arlington or Grapevine Mills would be the only other locations in the Metroplex that would fit the pattern.
Primark opened a store at Katy Mills. I wouldn’t be surprised if they open at Grapevine Mills instead of a regular mall. Park Lane is the only other possibility I can think of, there’s Forever 21 and Old Navy there.

Simon stopped managing the Galleria a while ago. Now it’s managed by Trademark (Watters Creek, Market Street, etc;)
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acclar11 wrote: 24 May 2024 12:00 https://6437794.fs1.hubspotusercontent- ... 5.2024.pdf
Former Belk/Saks is now listed as "Leased and Opening TBA" on the first and second floor. Any ideas regarding what the new tenant might be? No TDLR permits have been filed, and nothing is listed on Trademark's site.
My insider says the Netflix House concept is signed and Trademark is hoping this is what turns the mall around and brings national tenants back.

https://www.globest.com/2024/03/25/netf ... all/?amp=1
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acclar11 wrote: 15 May 2024 13:36 https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/ ... 2024014672
Lululemon is expanding, but not sure to which storefront.
Lululemon is moving to Level 1 across from Apple taking over the closed Marciano and the spaces next to it until about the old Pottery Barn. Pandora is still in talks but most likely taking the first half of the old Martin Lawrences Galleries space and the back half is already signed to expand Apple and build an employee break room.
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CreatingLukas wrote: 30 May 2024 10:21
acclar11 wrote: 15 May 2024 13:36 https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/ ... 2024014672
Lululemon is expanding, but not sure to which storefront.
Lululemon is moving to Level 1 across from Apple taking over the closed Marciano and the spaces next to it until about the old Pottery Barn. Pandora is still in talks but most likely taking the first half of the old Martin Lawrences Galleries space and the back half is already signed to expand Apple and build an employee break room.
Sounds like some good changes to the mall. Does anyone know anything about the old Pottery Barn location? Seems like a good restaurant location..
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CreatingLukas wrote: 30 May 2024 10:16
acclar11 wrote: 24 May 2024 12:00 https://6437794.fs1.hubspotusercontent- ... 5.2024.pdf
Former Belk/Saks is now listed as "Leased and Opening TBA" on the first and second floor. Any ideas regarding what the new tenant might be? No TDLR permits have been filed, and nothing is listed on Trademark's site.
My insider says the Netflix House concept is signed and Trademark is hoping this is what turns the mall around and brings national tenants back.

https://www.globest.com/2024/03/25/netf ... all/?amp=1
So sort of like a Dave & Buster's meets Alamo Drafthouse. That would be an interesting score, if true.
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mhainli wrote: 30 May 2024 15:15
CreatingLukas wrote: 30 May 2024 10:21
acclar11 wrote: 15 May 2024 13:36 https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/ ... 2024014672
Lululemon is expanding, but not sure to which storefront.
Lululemon is moving to Level 1 across from Apple taking over the closed Marciano and the spaces next to it until about the old Pottery Barn. Pandora is still in talks but most likely taking the first half of the old Martin Lawrences Galleries space and the back half is already signed to expand Apple and build an employee break room.
Sounds like some good changes to the mall. Does anyone know anything about the old Pottery Barn location? Seems like a good restaurant location..
From what I’ve heard that area is being planned for an additional dining district similar to the Outdoor Plaza. I’m not sure why they’d do that if they still haven’t leased the old Blue Fish space though.
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CreatingLukas wrote: 30 May 2024 18:27
mhainli wrote: 30 May 2024 15:15
CreatingLukas wrote: 30 May 2024 10:21

Lululemon is moving to Level 1 across from Apple taking over the closed Marciano and the spaces next to it until about the old Pottery Barn. Pandora is still in talks but most likely taking the first half of the old Martin Lawrences Galleries space and the back half is already signed to expand Apple and build an employee break room.
Sounds like some good changes to the mall. Does anyone know anything about the old Pottery Barn location? Seems like a good restaurant location..
From what I’ve heard that area is being planned for an additional dining district similar to the Outdoor Plaza. I’m not sure why they’d do that if they still haven’t leased the old Blue Fish space though.
Didn’t they once mention a food hall of some sort? Would imagine that could be an option now that NorthPark has one.
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Proquest20 wrote: 30 May 2024 19:59
CreatingLukas wrote: 30 May 2024 18:27
mhainli wrote: 30 May 2024 15:15
Sounds like some good changes to the mall. Does anyone know anything about the old Pottery Barn location? Seems like a good restaurant location..
From what I’ve heard that area is being planned for an additional dining district similar to the Outdoor Plaza. I’m not sure why they’d do that if they still haven’t leased the old Blue Fish space though.
Didn’t they once mention a food hall of some sort? Would imagine that could be an option now that NorthPark has one.
They did! I think that was back when the original redevelopment plans were created. They need to fix the food court first and learn from Willow Bend’s mistakes in 2019. They still don’t have the old McDonald’s space leased, Whataburger pulled out of it due to a tenant allowance dispute and Thai Express is quite possibly the worst Quick Service Restaurant in all of DFW.
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CreatingLukas wrote: 30 May 2024 23:22
Proquest20 wrote: 30 May 2024 19:59
CreatingLukas wrote: 30 May 2024 18:27

From what I’ve heard that area is being planned for an additional dining district similar to the Outdoor Plaza. I’m not sure why they’d do that if they still haven’t leased the old Blue Fish space though.
Didn’t they once mention a food hall of some sort? Would imagine that could be an option now that NorthPark has one.
They did! I think that was back when the original redevelopment plans were created. They need to fix the food court first and learn from Willow Bend’s mistakes in 2019. They still don’t have the old McDonald’s space leased, Whataburger pulled out of it due to a tenant allowance dispute and Thai Express is quite possibly the worst Quick Service Restaurant in all of DFW.
Not a big fan of Whataburger but having a location at the Galleria would’ve been a huge win! Your only option is Five Guys for now I guess…
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