eburress wrote:Hmmmmm...maybe you're looking at something different, but this graph has Houston in the #1 spot:
https://www.census.gov/library/visualiz ... texas.html
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:eburress wrote:Hmmmmm...maybe you're looking at something different, but this graph has Houston in the #1 spot:
https://www.census.gov/library/visualiz ... texas.html
The graph in your link states that the data is for July 2014- July 2015.
I would imagine the data referred to in the original post is for 2015-2016.
dollaztx wrote:If 2016's tends continue, Dallas will become the fastest growing metro this decade:
tanzoak wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:eburress wrote:Hmmmmm...maybe you're looking at something different, but this graph has Houston in the #1 spot:
https://www.census.gov/library/visualiz ... texas.html
The graph in your link states that the data is for July 2014- July 2015.
I would imagine the data referred to in the original post is for 2015-2016.
Yeah, the new data was posted this morning. Can be found here: https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tab ... Type=table
Cord1936 wrote:U.S. Census Bureau released population growth estimates for July 1, 2015-July 1, 2016 this morning:
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-r ... ounty.html
The City of Dallas was the 2nd fastest growing in Texas and the 6th fastest growing in the nation in actual numeric population increase in the last year!
Dallas grew by 20,602 people in the past year with a new City population estimate of 1,317,929 as of July 1, 2016.
Last year the City of Dallas added more residents than the City of Houston .... when did that last happen????
Houston's population growth shrank to 18,666 in the last year from 40,800 the year prior.
Population growth is a lagging indicator of economic conditions and the population growth numbers are starting to reflect Houston's economic malaise from the severe oil downturn hitting that city since late 2014.
Conversely, Dallas' population growth within the city limits is actually surging in relative terms from prior years. Not coincidentally Dallas' economy has been and is red hot.
An article in The Texas Tribune with some additional details:
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/05/25 ... ng-cities/
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:So Based on these numbers.. Dallas is slightly more Dense than Houston now.
Dallas - 1,317,929 /340 land sq miles
Dallas Density:3,876
Houston - 2,303,482/599 land sq miles
Houston Density: 3,845
San Antonio - 1,492,510/460 land sq miles
San Antonio Density:3,244
Austin - 947,890/297 land sq miles
Austin:3,191
The real story here is that Garland,TX is more Dense than any of the major cities.
Garland - 234,943/57 land sq miles
Density:4,121
Texas you're pathetic.
Cord1936 wrote:The actual square miles of land in Houston is 639 square miles (not 599).
Using that correct number results in a fairly big difference in density between the City of Dallas and City of Houston:
Dallas: 1,317,929/340 land sq miles
Dallas Density: 3,876
Houston: 2,303,482/639 land sq miles
Houston Density: 3,604
The real story here is that Garland,TX is more Dense than any of the major cities.
The_Overdog wrote:The real story here is that Garland,TX is more Dense than any of the major cities.
Garland, Plano, Richardson, and Arlington are the densest cities in DFW, all (except Garland) just under 4000 people per sq mile. Plano's growth numbers were unremarkable for a 'hot' city. Arlington nearly doubled it up.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Maybe people do want to live in major cities
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:The_Overdog wrote:The real story here is that Garland,TX is more Dense than any of the major cities.
Garland, Plano, Richardson, and Arlington are the densest cities in DFW, all (except Garland) just under 4000 people per sq mile. Plano's growth numbers were unremarkable for a 'hot' city. Arlington nearly doubled it up.
Yeah. Not only that but if you look at the change in population from April 1,2010 from the census numbers to July 1, 2016 population estimates.
Both Dallas and Plano grew at the same rate 10%.
With all these new MF units going up in Dallas that probably was the main driving force in getting more people to live in the city. That's interesting since most of the job relocations are in the burbs.
I wonder if that says anything about the lack of housing in major cities or is it just refection of cities proactively densifying?
Frisco and McKinney obviously had better growth rates but that's expected given they're basically Green fields.
Maybe people do want to live in major cities
Tucy wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:The_Overdog wrote:
Garland, Plano, Richardson, and Arlington are the densest cities in DFW, all (except Garland) just under 4000 people per sq mile. Plano's growth numbers were unremarkable for a 'hot' city. Arlington nearly doubled it up.
Yeah. Not only that but if you look at the change in population from April 1,2010 from the census numbers to July 1, 2016 population estimates.
Both Dallas and Plano grew at the same rate 10%.
With all these new MF units going up in Dallas that probably was the main driving force in getting more people to live in the city. That's interesting since most of the job relocations are in the burbs.
I wonder if that says anything about the lack of housing in major cities or is it just refection of cities proactively densifying?
Frisco and McKinney obviously had better growth rates but that's expected given they're basically Green fields.
Maybe people do want to live in major cities
Except . . . while Dallas grew by 117,218 between 2010 and 2016, the Metroplex outside of Dallas grew by 698,891 (86.6% of all growth). Even if we include Ft. Worth growth as evidence of wanting to live in major cities, we have total "major city" growth of 222,612 and 593,497 growth outside of the major cities (still 73.5% of all Metroplex growth).
10, 20, 30 years ago, 27% of the region's new population wasn't moving into urban areas and imagine what it's going to look like 10-20 years from now.
The_Overdog wrote:I've said before- 10-20 years ago and until 2008 I think - only about 5-15% of the new development in DFW was multifamily at all - 85% was single family. That multi-family is now about 50%, and much of that in established areas, is a new trend for Dallas. And McKinney & Frisco (two outperformers for their size) aren't just tossing up single family by the thousands -they are also building quite a bit of multifamily in populated corridors.
dfwcre8tive wrote:I knew Seattle was dense (and thus, expensive) since moving here, but I didn't know the difference was so extreme. It's now the fastest-growing big city in the country.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Cord1936 wrote:The actual square miles of land in Houston is 639 square miles (not 599).
Using that correct number results in a fairly big difference in density between the City of Dallas and City of Houston:
Dallas: 1,317,929/340 land sq miles
Dallas Density: 3,876
Houston: 2,303,482/639 land sq miles
Houston Density: 3,604
Maybe they annexed more land since then IDK.
Cord1936 wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Cord1936 wrote:The actual square miles of land in Houston is 639 square miles (not 599).
Using that correct number results in a fairly big difference in density between the City of Dallas and City of Houston:
Dallas: 1,317,929/340 land sq miles
Dallas Density: 3,876
Houston: 2,303,482/639 land sq miles
Houston Density: 3,604
Maybe they annexed more land since then IDK.
Yes, that is exactly what happened.
By the end of 2012 Houston had grown to 662 square miles total and since then Houston has grown to 667 square miles of which 639.1 square miles is land.
http://www.houstontx.gov/planning/Annex ... istory.pdf
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Texas you're pathetic.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Cord1936 wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
Maybe they annexed more land since then IDK.
Yes, that is exactly what happened.
By the end of 2012 Houston had grown to 662 square miles total and since then Houston has grown to 667 square miles of which 639.1 square miles is land.
http://www.houstontx.gov/planning/Annex ... istory.pdf
Interesting. Thanks for the clarification
tamtagon wrote:The swaths, patches, clumps of dense urban living will be lessened and disjointed without a regional binding plan establishing growth barriers and managed wilderness areas infused into the population center.
joshua.dodd wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Texas you're pathetic.
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No, Texas is not pathetic, it's huge. Literally bigger than most countries in Europe. The Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex alone is bigger than the states of Connecticut and Rhode Island combined.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:When will Dallas proper census information be available?
tanzoak wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:When will Dallas proper census information be available?
September (as well as demographic info for counties/metros). Then tracts and block groups in December.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:tanzoak wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:When will Dallas proper census information be available?
September (as well as demographic info for counties/metros). Then tracts and block groups in December.
Cool. I wonder Dallas finally will get to 4K in pop. density.
Definitely would like to what downtown looks like.
tanzoak wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:When will Dallas proper census information be available?
September (as well as demographic info for counties/metros). Then tracts and block groups in December.
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