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Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 11 Nov 2016 11:10
by Tnexster
The former Cabana Motor Hotel is under contract (again) but this time to a hotel developer

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/ ... tract.html

Instead of converting the 10-story, 357-room hotel at 899 N. Stemmons Freeway into a data center or retaining it as a possible county detention center, Dallas-based Circa Capital Corp. has put the mid-century modern hotel under contract and begun its due diligence to convert it back into a hotel.

"We have it under contract and we are doing our due diligence," Fred Aldridge III, president and CEO of Circa Capital, told the Dallas Business Journal."We are enthusiastic about where we are."

Aldridge would not detail out the real estate firm's plans for the hotel, which was originally built in the early 1960s. But his team has begun talking to a number of different hotel flags about the potential of converting the property back into a hotel.

And, he said, the firm could always convert into a boutique hotel without a typical hotel flag. If all goes well, Aldridge said the firm could buy the building by the end of the year.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 11 Nov 2016 12:37
by DPatel304
Wow.. so the original plans for both this and the Kroger have both changed into something significantly better and more urban. Great sign for the city, now we just need the Sam's Club at Cityplace to be gone.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 11 Nov 2016 13:00
by Tnexster
I have had a soft spot for this one and will be very pleased if it gets repurposed back into a hotel again.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 23 Sep 2017 00:26
by lakewoodhobo
Developer behind controversial Statler redo agrees to buy historic Cabana hotel from Dallas County

Late Friday the Dallas County Commissioners Court agreed to sell the 399,000-square-foot property, which sits on 3.275 acres near the Design District, to Centurion American Acquisition, LLC. The sale price, according to county records, is $8.1 million...

Mehrdad Moayedi, Centurion American's chief executive, said in a statement sent to The News on Friday he intends to preserve the old Cabana, which was built in 1962 by a development team that included Jay Sarno, who also developed Caesar's Palace and Circus Circus in Las Vegas, and partially owned by Doris Day.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 23 Sep 2017 17:17
by citygeek
You won't recognize the Design District in 5 years. 3 new hotels, at least one office building, and several additional 20-30 story apartment towers on the way.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 23 Sep 2017 22:24
by Tivo_Kenevil
citygeek wrote:You won't recognize the Design District in 5 years. 3 new hotels, at least one office building, and several additional 20-30 story apartment towers on the way.


Is there a plan for pedestrian updates. That entire area is disconnected and missing sidewalks everywhere.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 24 Sep 2017 09:18
by mdg109
^Design District always feels very Addison to me.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 24 Sep 2017 14:07
by R1070
Blasphemy! lol

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 25 Sep 2017 08:43
by muncien
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
citygeek wrote:You won't recognize the Design District in 5 years. 3 new hotels, at least one office building, and several additional 20-30 story apartment towers on the way.


Is there a plan for pedestrian updates. That entire area is disconnected and missing sidewalks everywhere.


DD has/had a great opportunity to repurpose all the rail road ROW that used to be used for deliveries between the buildings and turn them into pedestrian corridors (at least some of them anyway). Instead, they appear to be getting slowly gobbled up by parking lots and such. That's a bit of a shame, IMO. Many areas would love to have those types of corridors available for pedestrian connectivity.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 25 Sep 2017 09:30
by cowboyeagle05
What they need is a "large" corporate tenant who wants a walkable campus to come in gobble up the galleries and the railway right of way and build out that pedestrian passageway to Victory Park under Stemmons to the DART station...

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 25 Sep 2017 10:10
by buildingswithlegs
cowboyeagle05 wrote:What they need is a "large" corporate tenant who wants a walkable campus to come in gobble up the galleries and the railway right of way and build out that pedestrian passageway to Victory Park under Stemmons to the DART station...

Corporate could do it or Dallas could balls up and pass some zoning with an urban vision for the area

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 25 Sep 2017 10:14
by cowboyeagle05
buildingswithlegs wrote: Corporate could do it or Dallas could balls up and pass some zoning with an urban vision for the area


The city has the zoning in place already its up developers to build it out in many places and the city not let them opt out of features that could affect the potential urban walkability.

http://www.dallascityattorney.com/51P/Articles%20Supp%2015/Article%20621.pdf

PD 621 is established on property generally bounded by Sylvan Avenue/Wycliff Avenue on the
northwest, the meanders of the old channel of the Trinity River on the north, Interstate 35 on the east,
Continental Avenue on the south, and the Trinity River Floodway on the west. The size of PD 621 is
approximately 415.13 acres. (Ord. Nos. 25013; 25560; 27006)

This special purpose district is to be known as the Old Trinity and Design District
Special Purpose District.

Subdistricts 1 and 1A are transit-oriented, mixed-use zoning district for the
development of combinations of medium-density residential, retail, and office uses.Development should encourage residential, retail, office, and lodging uses in compatible combinations within walking distance of DART light-rail stations; conserve energy; provide for efficient traffic circulation; conserve land;
minimize vehicular travel; encourage both day-time and night-time activity; encourage use of mass
transit; increase pedestrian activity; and encourage bicycle usage. Subdistricts 1 and 1A retain the
potential for limited industrial and warehouse uses.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 25 Sep 2017 15:02
by Dettmann1
cowboyeagle05 wrote:
buildingswithlegs wrote: Corporate could do it or Dallas could balls up and pass some zoning with an urban vision for the area


The city has the zoning in place already its up developers to build it out in many places and the city not let them opt out of features that could affect the potential urban walkability.

http://www.dallascityattorney.com/51P/Articles%20Supp%2015/Article%20621.pdf

PD 621 is established on property generally bounded by Sylvan Avenue/Wycliff Avenue on the
northwest, the meanders of the old channel of the Trinity River on the north, Interstate 35 on the east,
Continental Avenue on the south, and the Trinity River Floodway on the west. The size of PD 621 is
approximately 415.13 acres. (Ord. Nos. 25013; 25560; 27006)

This special purpose district is to be known as the Old Trinity and Design District
Special Purpose District.

Subdistricts 1 and 1A are transit-oriented, mixed-use zoning district for the
development of combinations of medium-density residential, retail, and office uses.Development should encourage residential, retail, office, and lodging uses in compatible combinations within walking distance of DART light-rail stations; conserve energy; provide for efficient traffic circulation; conserve land;
minimize vehicular travel; encourage both day-time and night-time activity; encourage use of mass
transit; increase pedestrian activity; and encourage bicycle usage. Subdistricts 1 and 1A retain the
potential for limited industrial and warehouse uses.


The city has the zoning in place? As someone who reads a lot of zoning code, the city of Dallas has some of the most convoluted, confusing and non-organized code you can find. Add into that the city does not have an external tracking system and you end up with a very difficult process to get anything done.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 25 Sep 2017 15:57
by lakewoodhobo
DBJ version of the story has a little more info:
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... ml?ana=twt

The Farmers Branch-based development group is also planning to build a ground-up, 20-22 story residential tower atop a parking garage adjacent to the long-vacated property.

The $8.1 million deal is slated to close Nov. 15, with construction expected to start as early as mid-2018.

"We want to keep the history of the hotel," he added. "We want to create a different kind of hotel there for a hip, younger crowd with more of a Miami-style to it. I'm excited about it."

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 25 Sep 2017 22:24
by willyk
The location is currently an armpit, but the Lowest Stemmons Project should clean it up and make this a worthy location for a boutique hotel.

ftp://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot-info/ocr/paved/lowest-stemmons.pdf

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 26 Sep 2017 08:36
by cowboyeagle05
This is going to be one of those wait and see projects. They already have their hands full with finishing the Statler which is not near complete in its entirety with the parking garage mixed-use thing they have to build to keep the Dallas Morning News happy. Plus the Old Library isn't close to being ready for the DMN to move in yet.

They have made moves on South Dallas for a very large mixed-use project announced a month ago. They seem like a company that wants to be a Trammel Crow of sorts but balancing a few projects at a time takes a lot of competent professionals that some development companies never seem to hire.

Add on to that the tax financial scandal which can kill some potential partnerships that are needed to pull off a large mixed-use development in South Dallas.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 05 Oct 2017 10:58
by lakewoodhobo
Since he wants this to be a Vegas-style hotel with pool, maybe Hard Rock Hotel can be lured back to North Texas after the last deal fell through.

Residential tower and resort pool are planned with Cabana hotel redo
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... hotel-redo

"The hotel is going to stay a hotel," Moayedi said. "We are going to give a big emphasis on a pool.
"It's going to be like a Las Vegas pool."
Moayedi said plan is to market the property to millennials who want a one-of-a-kind plans to stay, hang out and party.
"There sill be a lot of events," he said. "There will be a big nightclub in there and a couple of restaurants."

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 05 Oct 2017 12:25
by tamtagon
How about a Dallas-Style hotel with pool, night life, dining scene? Every time one of these dealios try to imitate a scene from Vegas, Miami, Chicago, NYC whatever, the potential is minimized. Gawh!

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 08 Oct 2017 14:30
by Tnexster
A second phase of development would add a residential high-rise.

"We are building a tower with 400 units of residential on the parking garage," Moayedi said.


This would be a fairly significant tower....would it not?

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 08 Oct 2017 20:43
by Cord1936
Tnexster wrote:
A second phase of development would add a residential high-rise.

"We are building a tower with 400 units of residential on the parking garage," Moayedi said.


This would be a fairly significant tower....would it not?


The AMLI Fountain Place tower has 350 units at 46 stories and 562 feet tall, so the answer to your question is yes!

Using AMLI's specs to do some math it could make the Cabana residential tower around 642 feet and 53 or so stories tall.

So, yes, the future Cabana residential building could be a significant tower for that side of Stemmons! Would look incredible for a skyscraper of that height to be located there.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 08 Oct 2017 23:35
by Tivo_Kenevil
tamtagon wrote:How about a Dallas-Style hotel with pool, night life, dining scene? Every time one of these dealios try to imitate a scene from Vegas, Miami, Chicago, NYC whatever, the potential is minimized. Gawh!

What is Dallas style?

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 09 Oct 2017 01:00
by hjkll
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
tamtagon wrote:How about a Dallas-Style hotel with pool, night life, dining scene? Every time one of these dealios try to imitate a scene from Vegas, Miami, Chicago, NYC whatever, the potential is minimized. Gawh!

What is Dallas style?


Some hulking structure covered in LED lights with 0 ground floor retail and 16,000 parking spots

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 09 Oct 2017 06:23
by joshua.dodd
This is Dallas style:

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Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 09 Oct 2017 09:56
by exelone31
What I'm guessing (pure shot in the dark) they mean by a "Las Vegas Pool" is something like a full-sized Sisu. That is definitely not my scene, but it seems to be extremely popular.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 24 May 2018 07:37
by dallaz
Work underway to redo Dallas' landmark Cabana Hotel

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... bana-hotel

Work is moving ahead to turn save a landmark Dallas hotel.

The 56-year-old former Cabana Motor Hotel on Stemmons Freeway on the edge of downtown Dallas is being restored by Centurion American Development Group.

That's the same company that spent more than $230 million to redevelop downtown's landmark Statler Hotel.

Centurion American CEO Mehrdad Moayedi said demo work at the 10-story Cabana is wrapping up.

"We are doing the environmental clean up - all the asbestos is out," Moayedi said. "In another week we will be done."

Some of the interior space not original to the hotel is also being removed.

The building served as a minimum security jail for years before it was left vacant and sold by Dallas County.

"We are demoing stuff that is not historic," Moayedi said. "There were holding tanks and bars between the balconies and rooms."

Moayedi plans to convert the old hotel to 262 new rooms plus restaurants.

"It will be a combination of suites and 2-story cabana rooms," he said. "We are trying to get our historic plan approved in Austin."

Centurion American also intends to build a 140,000-square-foot apartment tower on top of the old hotel garage.

The Cabana was once one of Dallas' most fashionable accommodations.

It was constructed by Las Vegas developer Jay Sarno, who also built Caesar's Palace and Circus Circus.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 24 May 2018 08:14
by cowboyeagle05
Well, he is moving fast on this one, isn't he? I imagine this one he doesn't want to drag on like the Statler. He probably wants to get it done and move on.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 24 May 2018 12:32
by lakewoodhobo
I'm surprised he's not asking for incentives from the Design District TIF. Seems a little too good to be true.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 24 May 2018 21:32
by Tnexster
I'd like to know more about the 140,000 sf residential project on top of the garage.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 18 Apr 2019 08:05
by dallaz
Developers seeking approval for high-rise addition to Dallas' Cabana Hotel

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... bana-hotel

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 18 Apr 2019 08:19
by lakewoodhobo
Glad to see this one in the news again. The site doesn't look very active and with Centurion working on so many other projects, I was afraid this plan would stall or get canceled.

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Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 18 Apr 2019 08:49
by tamtagon
So, maybe at the time in Dallas, the cycle refers more to part of town rather than supply's ability to meet demand...?

Still expensive but more affordable than LoMac (Victory Park Uptown), Design District and East Dallas developments continue the rebirthing cycle of "Downtown Dallas" as the geographic definition begins to line up more with the popular perception from the vast North Texas suburban environs that many neighborhoods are downtown. Turtle Creek, Victory Park, Uptown, West Village, Old East Dallas (Deep Ellum), The Cedars, CBD, Design District are all bundled together as what is downtown.

The real estate cycle waxes in one downtown neighborhood, wanes in another but hasn't stopped. Each milestone development along the way eases into the new normal after a few years and Downtown keeps getting bigger.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 18 Apr 2019 09:01
by Tnexster
Good deal, I love this old hotel and DD needs another high rise.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 26 Apr 2019 22:49
by jsoto3
This zoning exhibit currently going through the City Plan Commission gives a sense of what this tower's approximate height and proportions might be:
https://dallascityhall.com/government/m ... 7_2018.pdf

EXHIBIT 621 L
TOWER DIAGRAMS FOR SUBDISTRICT 1J
Tower size and orientation. Building height may be increased a maximum of 60 feet if:
(1) the portion of the building above 75 feet in height has a floor plate of 25,000 square
feet or less; and
(2) the tower dimension perpendicular to the east Trinity River levee is at least three
times longer than the tower dimension parallel to the east Trinity River levee (tower dimension is
measured at the widest point of the building facade).

Cabana Hotel Tower Zoning Diagram.JPG

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 27 Apr 2019 12:38
by Tnexster
So what's the potential here? Looks like at least 32-35 floors but maybe higher?

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 27 Apr 2019 12:50
by Cord1936
jsoto3 wrote:This zoning exhibit currently going through the City Plan Commission gives a sense of what this tower's approximate height and proportions might be:
https://dallascityhall.com/government/m ... 7_2018.pdf

EXHIBIT 621 L
TOWER DIAGRAMS FOR SUBDISTRICT 1J
Tower size and orientation. Building height may be increased a maximum of 60 feet if:
(1) the portion of the building above 75 feet in height has a floor plate of 25,000 square
feet or less; and
(2) the tower dimension perpendicular to the east Trinity River levee is at least three
times longer than the tower dimension parallel to the east Trinity River levee (tower dimension is
measured at the widest point of the building facade).

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Great news on this! The floor count in the Apartment Tower drawing is 37 ...

But what does the vertical annotation mean that says "Minimum 3X" with what appears to suggest additional height above the 37 floors? If that is the case it would push the floor count to 50.

And if so it also appears to suggest a sloping roofline at the top ... that design would be a great addition to the west side of Stemmons. It would create a definite skyscraper canyon effect driving through that area of I-35 and Downtown.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 27 Apr 2019 15:09
by jsoto3
^^ The diagram is a 3d axonometric and what you are seeing at the top is the flat roof of the tower, not a sloping roof or additional height. As noted in the text (item 2) included in my post directly above the diagram, the 3X dimension is specifying the minimum required tower length relative to its width (the horizontal dimension X at the top). This is a general requirement of the zoning district along this side of the Trinity (PD 621, the area between the river and I-35 and between Continental and Sylvan/Wycliff), with the intent to limit the width of the side of towers facing the Trinity and prevent a continuous wall of wide towers along the river corridor frontage.

Link to PD 621 (Old Trinity and Design District Special Purpose District):
http://dallascityattorney.com/51P/Artic ... %20621.pdf

To be clear, this diagram is a zoning guideline, not an exact proposal for the tower. So I wouldn't presume the floor count shown in the diagram is necessarily what it will actually be.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 27 Apr 2019 15:18
by jsoto3
The zoning case for this project (Z178-314) is described in the 5/2/19 CPC Docket, starting on page 337:
https://dallascityhall.com/government/m ... Docket.pdf

The zoning case is a request to create a new subdistrict specifically for this site within district PD 621 in order to increase the maximum allowable FAR (floor area ratio) to 5.5 and a max height up to 400ft, contingent on meeting certain conditions to achieve the bonuses.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 28 Apr 2019 00:05
by willyk
I hope the architects do something that fits the original Las Vegas-Rat Pack vibe.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 03 May 2019 11:11
by dallaz
Central Market project for Dallas' Uptown neighborhood gets approval


https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... s-approval


The plan commission also voted to allow developers restoring downtown Dallas' landmark Cabana Hotel to add a residential tower to the project.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 03 May 2019 12:23
by lakewoodhobo
Of course I would love it if the residential tower had a distinctive MCM style, but something they could easily do that would be very complementary of the existing hotel is they could have glass balconies with this same pattern of breeze blocks etched in the glass.

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Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 03 May 2019 21:33
by Tnexster
Awesome, wonder how soon we will see some renderings of the new project?

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 17 Sep 2019 17:17
by lakewoodhobo
First look: Renovation of downtown Dallas' historic Cabana Hotel is moving ahead
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ing-ahead/

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Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 17 Sep 2019 23:51
by NdoorTX
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Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 19 Sep 2019 10:12
by lakewoodhobo
I realized after the most recent story came out that there's very little info out there about the other Cabana motor hotels that were developed by the same group of investors, including Doris Day, and whether they still exist. So far I've found three others, although one was never actually named Cabaña.

Atlanta Cabana, opened in 1958 and razed in 2002.
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Palo Alto Cabana, opened in 1962 and modernized in the late 90s to become the Crowne Plaza Palo Alto (still open). Coincidentally, the Beatles also stayed at this hotel while on tour.

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The Parliament House Motor Hotel in Birmingham, Alabama looks almost identical to the Dallas Cabaña. It was built in 1964 and destroyed in 2008. This hotel was meant to open as the Birmingham Cabaña, but the group of investors backed out before it was finished due to the intense racial/political climate there.

Birmingham Cabana.jpg

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Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 19 Sep 2019 12:36
by Tnexster
I love this project! Hope it comes out as well as the plans look.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 19 Sep 2019 12:55
by texasstar
Wow, we saved something that other cities demolished. That's a twist.

Re: Design District: Cabana Hotel

Posted: 04 Nov 2019 09:27
by Tnexster
Developer seeks incentives for historic downtown Dallas hotel project

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... l-project/