Downtown Dallas Retail

User avatar
muncien
Posts: 1062
Joined: 25 Oct 2016 08:46
Location: Cypress Waters

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby muncien » 08 Aug 2018 10:18

mcrdal15 wrote:
DPatel304 wrote:I don't really have an update/announcement regarding Downtown Dallas, but I just wanted to say that I hung out in Downtown last Saturday for dinner/drinks and I was really impressed at how lively it all was. We had dinner at Americano, then walked over to the Statler for drinks at Scout (which was very busy). We attempted to check out Waterproof after Scout, but by the time we wanted to check it out, a huge line of about 30 people had formed waiting to get in. There was a decent amount of activity along Main Street and the Statler appears to be a huge hit.

I've always been hesitant to say that Downtown has turned the corner is no longer a ghost town, but I feel very confident in making that claim now. I know it's been decently lively for a couple years now, but, in the back of my mind, there was always the worry that a recession or a few failed projects might set us back. But with the way things are looking now, and with the upcoming developments, I think Downtown is going to get pretty lively in the next few years. In particular, I think the Discovery District and Pacific Plaza Park are going to create some serious activity once completed.


Great update! Funny I was down there on Saturday, but didn't go in the Statler (I've been in there a few times before). I definitely agree with the center of Downtown really coming alive. The walk (or bike or scooter ride) from the Statler to Deep Ellum isn't too far; however, the sidewalk infrastructure on Commerce near and below I-345 is horrendously bad. Main is the only halfway "safe" one under I-345 if you're trying to walk from DT to DE.

No doubt... I-345 is honestly the least disruptive element of this walk. There are so many simple/cheap things that can be done to address this. Simply extending a wide sidewalk along the south side of Commerce with decent trees w/grating along the street to create a buffer and provide shade, and some lighting would be fantastic. I'm always surprised that huge lot hasn't been built on yet...
"He doesn't know how to use the three seashells..."

User avatar
mdg109
Posts: 340
Joined: 31 Oct 2016 17:10

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby mdg109 » 08 Aug 2018 12:44

DPatel304 wrote:I've always been hesitant to say that Downtown has turned the corner is no longer a ghost town, but I feel very confident in making that claim now.

I was thinking about that this past weekend as well. I think it depends on time of day. Saturday nights are definitely a lot livelier. I was at ChopHouse Burger Sunday afternoon, and overheard a tourist asking the server why there weren't that many people downtown. Yeah, there are more people around even on a Sunday, but to outsiders, it still might seem a little empty.

DPatel304
Posts: 2048
Joined: 19 Oct 2016 18:49
Location: Turtle Creek

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby DPatel304 » 08 Aug 2018 13:52

mdg109 wrote:I was thinking about that this past weekend as well. I think it depends on time of day. Saturday nights are definitely a lot livelier. I was at ChopHouse Burger Sunday afternoon, and overheard a tourist asking the server why there weren't that many people downtown. Yeah, there are more people around even on a Sunday, but to outsiders, it still might seem a little empty.


Yeah, that's a good point. When I say that Downtown was 'lively', it's really just relative to what it was several years ago. Also, in my experience going Downtown, it's been hit or miss. In the past, it was more miss than 'hit', but the past year or so, it seems to be shifting the other way and the few times I do happen to make it out to Downtown, it's been decently lively (by Dallas's standards). Compared to most other major Downtowns, it still has a long ways to go, but I do believe we are past the hardest part. Once Discovery District, Pacific Park Plaza, and East Quarter are all completed, we'll be in pretty good shape.

User avatar
mdg109
Posts: 340
Joined: 31 Oct 2016 17:10

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby mdg109 » 13 Aug 2018 00:14

Was out tonight at around 8pm. Chop House burger was packed, Main Street was lively, and Stone Street Garden patios were pretty full.

Status update on the former Sol Irlandes building: looks like they added a balcony to the patio area.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

lakewoodhobo
Posts: 1326
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 13:49
Location: Elmwood, Oak Cliff

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby lakewoodhobo » 13 Aug 2018 09:59

mdg109 wrote:Status update on the former Sol Irlandes building: looks like they added a balcony to the patio area.


Didn't the building owner have to jump through some hoops in order to add the balcony for the Woolworth? This seems like the same type of addition and we haven't heard anything.

User avatar
Matt777
Posts: 880
Joined: 28 Oct 2016 09:10

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Matt777 » 13 Aug 2018 10:20

lakewoodhobo wrote:
mdg109 wrote:Status update on the former Sol Irlandes building: looks like they added a balcony to the patio area.


Didn't the building owner have to jump through some hoops in order to add the balcony for the Woolworth? This seems like the same type of addition and we haven't heard anything.


The owner of this building is Headington, isn't it? I doubt he ever has to jump through any hoops. Seems to have carte blanche. He demolished some of the oldest buildings in Dallas without any pain whatsoever. I think it's fairly clear with recent developments that most of City Hall can be bought.

User avatar
Matt777
Posts: 880
Joined: 28 Oct 2016 09:10

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Matt777 » 13 Aug 2018 10:22

Matt777 wrote:
lakewoodhobo wrote:
mdg109 wrote:Status update on the former Sol Irlandes building: looks like they added a balcony to the patio area.


Didn't the building owner have to jump through some hoops in order to add the balcony for the Woolworth? This seems like the same type of addition and we haven't heard anything.


The owner of this building is Headington, isn't it? I doubt he ever has to jump through any hoops. Seems to have carte blanche. He demolished some of the oldest buildings in Dallas without any pain whatsoever. I think it's fairly clear with recent developments that most of City Hall can be bought.


By the way, this "balcony" looks fugly and totally ruins what was a lovely, older building facade.

lakewoodhobo
Posts: 1326
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 13:49
Location: Elmwood, Oak Cliff

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby lakewoodhobo » 13 Aug 2018 10:44

Matt777 wrote:The owner of this building is Headington, isn't it? I doubt he ever has to jump through any hoops. Seems to have carte blanche. He demolished some of the oldest buildings in Dallas without any pain whatsoever. I think it's fairly clear with recent developments that most of City Hall can be bought.


My understanding was that it's still owned by the original people (Stone Place Mall LLC or whatever). Headington is just leasing this one.

User avatar
Jay9398
Posts: 139
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 12:35

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Jay9398 » 14 Aug 2018 11:43

lakewoodhobo wrote:
Matt777 wrote:The owner of this building is Headington, isn't it? I doubt he ever has to jump through any hoops. Seems to have carte blanche. He demolished some of the oldest buildings in Dallas without any pain whatsoever. I think it's fairly clear with recent developments that most of City Hall can be bought.


My understanding was that it's still owned by the original people (Stone Place Mall LLC or whatever). Headington is just leasing this one.


Rumor is Headington has the entire thing under contract pending completion of building improvements. Includes this building and the Woolworth building.

User avatar
Tivo_Kenevil
Posts: 2094
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 12:24

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 14 Aug 2018 12:33

What exactly are headingtons plans anyway?...I never hear anything about what they want to do with all these properties.

lakewoodhobo
Posts: 1326
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 13:49
Location: Elmwood, Oak Cliff

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby lakewoodhobo » 14 Aug 2018 12:39

Jay9398 wrote:Rumor is Headington has the entire thing under contract pending completion of building improvements. Includes this building and the Woolworth building.


That wouldn't surprise me or anyone else one bit; however, I'll be really upset if this results in Campisi's leaving.

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:What exactly are headingtons plans anyway?...I never hear anything about what they want to do with all these properties.


At this point it's sounding like he wants to run a food hall.

User avatar
exelone31
Posts: 689
Joined: 31 Oct 2016 11:35

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby exelone31 » 14 Aug 2018 13:17

lakewoodhobo wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:What exactly are headingtons plans anyway?...I never hear anything about what they want to do with all these properties.


At this point it's sounding like he wants to run a food hall.


If it's anything close to what he's pulled off at The Commissary, I'm all in for that. He'll get bonus credit if he never refers to it as a "food hall".

DPatel304
Posts: 2048
Joined: 19 Oct 2016 18:49
Location: Turtle Creek

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby DPatel304 » 14 Aug 2018 13:22

lakewoodhobo wrote:That wouldn't surprise me or anyone else one bit; however, I'll be really upset if this results in Campisi's leaving.


Agreed, but there is a ton of space in the CBD. Perhaps they could just move close by like what City Tavern is doing, which is perfectly fine with me.

lakewoodhobo wrote:At this point it's sounding like he wants to run a food hall.


This would be pretty awesome if it did end up happening. Great location for one, and the building is the right size and scale.

dfwcre8tive
Site Admin
Posts: 286
Joined: 22 Oct 2016 12:47
Location: San Francisco
Contact:

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby dfwcre8tive » 15 Aug 2018 01:04

lakewoodhobo wrote:
mdg109 wrote:Status update on the former Sol Irlandes building: looks like they added a balcony to the patio area.


Didn't the building owner have to jump through some hoops in order to add the balcony for the Woolworth? This seems like the same type of addition and we haven't heard anything.


Yes, these two buildings are in the Stone Street Historic District so any modifications have to go through Landmark Commission. Headington's group even had to get approval to expand the walkways a few years ago because the "street" itself is historic. It looks like the historic awning roof was removed from the side of the building? The Woolworth had to go through many reviews to create something simple that does not mask the building and is completely removable.

Stone Street Historic District: http://dallascityhall.com/departments/s ... treet.aspx

City Search: https://dallascityhall.com/departments/ ... h-CAs.aspx

EDIT: this was approved by Landmark Commission, with discussion dating back to November 2015.

User avatar
Matt777
Posts: 880
Joined: 28 Oct 2016 09:10

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Matt777 » 22 Aug 2018 19:25

The Mexican restaurant opening in the base of The Metropolitan looks close to opening, and will be called Twisted Trompo. It sounds like they are the new concept of a gas station taco chain called Bachman Tacos, and will use this branding to expand:
https://twistedtrompo.com/about-us/

DPatel304
Posts: 2048
Joined: 19 Oct 2016 18:49
Location: Turtle Creek

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby DPatel304 » 22 Aug 2018 19:29

^Is this replacing anything, or has that space just been empty? I don't remember anything being here previously.

EDIT: Just checked the spot on google streetview, and it looks like it has always been empty.

User avatar
Matt777
Posts: 880
Joined: 28 Oct 2016 09:10

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Matt777 » 22 Aug 2018 19:41

DPatel304 wrote:^Is this replacing anything, or has that space just been empty? I don't remember anything being here previously.

EDIT: Just checked the spot on google streetview, and it looks like it has always been empty.


Yup! Another long empty retail space fills up! Now if only Neiman's would fix up and lease the space they have across the street at the base of their parking garage..... the "NEW RETAIL/OFFICE SPACE COMING 2004" banner still outside it is embarrassing and the space looks positively derelict! Hell, I'd even take an IHOP or some chain to fill it up for all of the hundreds of hotel rooms that now surround it! However, an Original Pancake House, Cindi's Deli, Breadwinners, or Mama's Daughters would be better. I honestly think that's exactly what that space needs and it wouldn't pull a penny from Neiman's sales.

DPatel304
Posts: 2048
Joined: 19 Oct 2016 18:49
Location: Turtle Creek

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby DPatel304 » 22 Aug 2018 19:54

Downtown is finally hitting its stride, so I have no doubt that space will be filled up within a year or so. It's not too far from the upcoming Discovery District, which should add a ton of activity to the area.

User avatar
Tivo_Kenevil
Posts: 2094
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 12:24

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 22 Aug 2018 21:17

This is good. The bachman lake tacos are great. I buy the party trompo meat tray for $120. Great value. I hope they are open late and inexpensive....I feel like these spaces don't lease since they're not updated and the rent is too high.

cowboyeagle05
Posts: 3190
Joined: 21 Oct 2016 08:45
Location: Dallas

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 23 Aug 2018 09:19

A good Taco joint is exactly what hoteliers will love if they do it right. When people come to Texas they want Tacos, Tex-Mex, and Barbeque with Margaritas.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell”

User avatar
tamtagon
Site Admin
Posts: 2323
Joined: 16 Oct 2016 12:04

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby tamtagon » 23 Aug 2018 11:48

I've never really liked BBQ, and, like, when a Texas pro-sport team in competing for the big title, I do not understand why, when municipal leaders ceremoniously bet on the outcome, the ones in Texas always wager BBQ. That's just lame. A delicious plate of tacos, enchiladas, beans and rice is way better.

cowboyeagle05
Posts: 3190
Joined: 21 Oct 2016 08:45
Location: Dallas

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 23 Aug 2018 12:10

Some deliciously smoked Brisket is my preference. I'll be excited to try the Brisket Tacos.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell”

User avatar
tamtagon
Site Admin
Posts: 2323
Joined: 16 Oct 2016 12:04

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby tamtagon » 23 Aug 2018 12:19

When I think of brisket, gross globs of fat is the first thing that comes to mind. Gag me with a spoon, totally
gross globs of fat.jpg
.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

User avatar
dukemeredith
Posts: 313
Joined: 22 Oct 2016 12:17
Location: Downtown Dallas

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby dukemeredith » 23 Aug 2018 13:43

tamtagon wrote:When I think of brisket, gross globs of fat is the first thing that comes to mind. Gag me with a spoon, totally.



I presume a great many folks love Texas BBQ, including me. In fact, Texas brisket was one of the things I was most looking forward to before moving here a few years ago from North Carolina. “Globs” of fat, especially.

Live and let live, tamtagon.

cowboyeagle05
Posts: 3190
Joined: 21 Oct 2016 08:45
Location: Dallas

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 23 Aug 2018 14:09

I did Keto and lost 20lbs so fat is not my enemy nor are healthy fats to anyone for that matter. I can imagine the smell if there was a real down-home place smoking brisket or any other BBQ in the CBD. It's already bad enough to walk in Deep Ellum near Pecan Lodge and not want to beg for scraps when a line is out the door.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell”

User avatar
tamtagon
Site Admin
Posts: 2323
Joined: 16 Oct 2016 12:04

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby tamtagon » 23 Aug 2018 19:06

dukemeredith wrote:
tamtagon wrote:When I think of brisket, gross globs of fat is the first thing that comes to mind. Gag me with a spoon, totally.



I presume a great many folks love Texas BBQ, including me. In fact, Texas brisket was one of the things I was most looking forward to before moving here a few years ago from North Carolina. “Globs” of fat, especially.

Live and let live, tamtagon.


hahaha i know that's right

User avatar
dallaz
Posts: 768
Joined: 26 Oct 2016 14:50

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby dallaz » 23 Aug 2018 19:29

tamtagon wrote:When I think of brisket, gross globs of fat is the first thing that comes to mind. Gag me with a spoon, totallygross globs of fat.jpg.

That lowkey made my mouth water. :lol:

Fat=flavor

User avatar
tamtagon
Site Admin
Posts: 2323
Joined: 16 Oct 2016 12:04

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby tamtagon » 23 Aug 2018 20:05

reminds me of a group I like, Throbbing Gristle

DPatel304
Posts: 2048
Joined: 19 Oct 2016 18:49
Location: Turtle Creek

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby DPatel304 » 29 Aug 2018 12:16

Image
The time is upon us.
The LAST weekend for CITY TAVERN at it's Main Street location will be THIS Labor Day Weekend.
Sad face.
So come give us a hug, say goodbye and drink us dry!
Our last day will be MONDAY September 3rd but we have awesome shows from some of our favorites lined up from Thursday to Sunday!
We love y'all!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

From the City Tavern Facebook page. No word on when their new location will be opening, but I'm curious to see what takes the place of City Tavern.

User avatar
ContriveDallasite
Posts: 307
Joined: 27 Oct 2016 03:34
Location: München

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby ContriveDallasite » 29 Aug 2018 13:03

DPatel304 wrote:Image
The time is upon us.
The LAST weekend for CITY TAVERN at it's Main Street location will be THIS Labor Day Weekend.
Sad face.
So come give us a hug, say goodbye and drink us dry!
Our last day will be MONDAY September 3rd but we have awesome shows from some of our favorites lined up from Thursday to Sunday!
We love y'all!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

From the City Tavern Facebook page. No word on when their new location will be opening, but I'm curious to see what takes the place of City Tavern.


Bummer, but this is the spot for a sports bar. DTD needs a casual after work drink spot.

User avatar
muncien
Posts: 1062
Joined: 25 Oct 2016 08:46
Location: Cypress Waters

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby muncien » 29 Aug 2018 13:18

A few months ago, when I asked them about this, they indicated that they planned on making it a very quick move. Like, a week or so... Not sure if that's still in the cards as it seems aggressive, and a lot of time has passed since then, but that's what they mentioned. FWIW

This has always been my favorite downtown spot. But I must say... I miss their old menu. I know the stuff they have now is supposed to be more fresh, and 'better'... But sometimes I just want 'Bar Food', and those Stuffed Jalapenos and that huge 'Nacho' were the best... not to mention the old 'Veggie Sandwich'. Memories...
"He doesn't know how to use the three seashells..."

DPatel304
Posts: 2048
Joined: 19 Oct 2016 18:49
Location: Turtle Creek

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby DPatel304 » 29 Aug 2018 13:27

muncien wrote:A few months ago, when I asked them about this, they indicated that they planned on making it a very quick move. Like, a week or so... Not sure if that's still in the cards as it seems aggressive, and a lot of time has passed since then, but that's what they mentioned. FWIW


Good to know. This doesn't surprise me, as this moved seemed very intentional and seemed like it was something being planned for a while.

Isn't this moving to the new retail spots underneath the Mid Elm lofts?

ContriveDallasite wrote:Bummer, but this is the spot for a sports bar. DTD needs a casual after work drink spot.


They will still be in the area, they are just moving to Elm St, which is totally fine with me. This bar seems popular enough to draw the same crowds on Elm street, so now Elm St gets a bit of a bump in activity, and, hopefully, we get something good to take its place on Main.

User avatar
Jay9398
Posts: 139
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 12:35

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Jay9398 » 29 Aug 2018 13:46

I was told over the weekend that it will be 2-3 weeks after the current Tavern location closes before the new one will open. It is going into the Western-most portion of the Mid-Elm redo, right next to the Kirby garage.

On another note, there's a new restaurant/grocery/bar open at KPMG Plaza, above Flora Street Cafe on the sculpture plaza (of course I've already forgotten the name). We were peeking in the windows on Sunday morning and the chef came out to chat.

They opened Monday and will be in soft-open mode through most of September. They will serve packaged foods and have cold cases for meats and cheeses and such. They also will have an upstairs lounge area with a rooftop bar open until 2 AM. Sounds like something that should be good for office folks, neighbors, and the theater crowd.

User avatar
joshua.dodd
Posts: 458
Joined: 23 Oct 2016 01:11

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby joshua.dodd » 31 Aug 2018 17:39

Is the city going to do anything about the homeless situation? Downtown Dallas is starting to turn into a shithole with homeless camping out on the sidewalks and literally shitting on the streets. It's becoming a serious problem. And from what I have heard, many businesses are wanting to relocate away from Downtown because of it.

User avatar
Tivo_Kenevil
Posts: 2094
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 12:24

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 31 Aug 2018 19:08

joshua.dodd wrote:Is the city going to do anything about the homeless situation? Downtown Dallas is starting to turn into a shithole with homeless camping out on the sidewalks and literally shitting on the streets. It's becoming a serious problem. And from what I have heard, many businesses are wanting to relocate away from Downtown because of it.


While there homeless people I've Never seen them camp out on sidewalks or go in public. The downtown patrol is good about policing that. Only the stew pot and the presbyteryian church has that problem. I'm in DT all-day everyday.
Your experience seems anecdotal.

Tnexster
Posts: 3539
Joined: 22 Oct 2016 16:33
Location: Dallas

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Tnexster » 31 Aug 2018 22:03

joshua.dodd wrote:Is the city going to do anything about the homeless situation? Downtown Dallas is starting to turn into a shithole with homeless camping out on the sidewalks and literally shitting on the streets. It's becoming a serious problem. And from what I have heard, many businesses are wanting to relocate away from Downtown because of it.


Which businesses are saying that?

User avatar
joshua.dodd
Posts: 458
Joined: 23 Oct 2016 01:11

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby joshua.dodd » 01 Sep 2018 03:53

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
joshua.dodd wrote:Is the city going to do anything about the homeless situation? Downtown Dallas is starting to turn into a shithole with homeless camping out on the sidewalks and literally shitting on the streets. It's becoming a serious problem. And from what I have heard, many businesses are wanting to relocate away from Downtown because of it.


While there homeless people I've Never seen them camp out on sidewalks or go in public. The downtown patrol is good about policing that. Only the stew pot and the presbyteryian church has that problem. I'm in DT all-day everyday.
Your experience seems anecdotal.


I'm in Downtown working every night. I see them everywhere in growing numbers.

User avatar
Warrior2015
Posts: 203
Joined: 15 Jun 2018 21:19

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Warrior2015 » 01 Sep 2018 11:00

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
joshua.dodd wrote:Is the city going to do anything about the homeless situation? Downtown Dallas is starting to turn into a shithole with homeless camping out on the sidewalks and literally shitting on the streets. It's becoming a serious problem. And from what I have heard, many businesses are wanting to relocate away from Downtown because of it.


While there homeless people I've Never seen them camp out on sidewalks or go in public. The downtown patrol is good about policing that. Only the stew pot and the presbyteryian church has that problem. I'm in DT all-day everyday.
Your experience seems anecdotal.

Do you think downtown is finally lively?

User avatar
Tivo_Kenevil
Posts: 2094
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 12:24

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 01 Sep 2018 12:41

Warrior2015 wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
joshua.dodd wrote:Is the city going to do anything about the homeless situation? Downtown Dallas is starting to turn into a shithole with homeless camping out on the sidewalks and literally shitting on the streets. It's becoming a serious problem. And from what I have heard, many businesses are wanting to relocate away from Downtown because of it.


While there homeless people I've Never seen them camp out on sidewalks or go in public. The downtown patrol is good about policing that. Only the stew pot and the presbyteryian church has that problem. I'm in DT all-day everyday.
Your experience seems anecdotal.

Do you think downtown is finally lively?


There's definitely a palpable difference especially on weekends. Still have a little bit more density is needed.

As for the homeless population. Yes, they're there; but it's not SF or LA level. The city can only do so much; there has to be help from other agencies.

cowboyeagle05
Posts: 3190
Joined: 21 Oct 2016 08:45
Location: Dallas

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 04 Sep 2018 09:28

I work downtown 5 days a week I have seen no uptick in negative activity from the homeless and I have a view of their activities every day being across from an active bus stop near a 7Eleven and work with multiple ground floor businesses that deal with their behavior on a regular basis. Bathroom requests by the homeless and near homeless are our biggest nuisance. In fact, I have had to make fewer phone calls in the last 6 months to Safety Patrol to deal with problematic homeless. While they are a problem and I still support the city's and private efforts to solve the homeless problem I have not seen anything more than the usual. All the homeless problems our retailers have had to deal with are always those that are not mentally stable and wander around screaming/arguing or acting out in scary ways along the sidewalk. The mentally unstable homeless is the hardest problem for any homeless assistance program to solve.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell”

User avatar
mdg109
Posts: 340
Joined: 31 Oct 2016 17:10

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby mdg109 » 11 Sep 2018 15:40

Photo Sep 10, 19 26 14.jpg
Not open yet, but saw several people trying to go in for food, haha.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

lakewoodhobo
Posts: 1326
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 13:49
Location: Elmwood, Oak Cliff

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby lakewoodhobo » 11 Sep 2018 16:55

mdg109 wrote:Photo Sep 10, 19 26 14.jpgNot open yet, but saw several people trying to go in for food, haha.


Finish-out looks great, especially the high ceilings and colorful mural.

User avatar
exelone31
Posts: 689
Joined: 31 Oct 2016 11:35

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby exelone31 » 12 Sep 2018 09:28

lakewoodhobo wrote:
mdg109 wrote:Photo Sep 10, 19 26 14.jpgNot open yet, but saw several people trying to go in for food, haha.


Finish-out looks great, especially the colorful mural.


Agreed, that spot looks awesome. A great street-level option for sure.

Tnexster
Posts: 3539
Joined: 22 Oct 2016 16:33
Location: Dallas

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Tnexster » 12 Sep 2018 12:12

That looks nice, and close enough to try out for lunch.

DPatel304
Posts: 2048
Joined: 19 Oct 2016 18:49
Location: Turtle Creek

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby DPatel304 » 12 Sep 2018 12:16

A New Neighborhood Bar Will Replace City Tavern
Downtown bar City Tavern has vacated its Main Street space for new digs on Elm Street, and a new neighborhood bar is in the works for the building.

The new bar at 1402 Main Street is a project of Buffalo and Hare Restaurant Development Group, which operates the Mitchell in Downtown and On Premise in Deep Ellum. Buffalo and Hare owner Adam Salazar, who also owns the building at 1402 Main, tells Eater that he’s planning to revamp the space into a neighborhood bar that sounds a whole lot like the one that just left.

https://dallas.eater.com/2018/9/12/1784 ... orhood-bar

No word on when this new bar will open, but it sounds promising thus far.

User avatar
muncien
Posts: 1062
Joined: 25 Oct 2016 08:46
Location: Cypress Waters

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby muncien » 12 Sep 2018 14:31

Other than a blurry visit to City Tavern a few weeks ago, it has been a while since I hung out around here... But I was curious... Is One Eyed Penguin still a place? Did/Does Adam Salazar own that as well (or, at least as a landlord)?
"He doesn't know how to use the three seashells..."

User avatar
CTroyMathis
Site Admin
Posts: 838
Joined: 13 Oct 2016 19:51

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby CTroyMathis » 12 Sep 2018 17:51

I imagine I've had to run across you, muncien, and some others as well and just not known it. There are already about a dozen other forumers I've met there by complete coincidence, only half of those I regularly see, though. I mean, damn, I went to the old location so much (oops) I couldn't even unsling my backpack after entering the door for the first time and Alicia/Jen/etc. already slammed down my beer sometimes. Haha, even worse, one time I delayed walking in to talk on the patio and the beer was just brought out to me. Yeah, City Tavern is kinda cool like that. Looking forward to the new digs! I think someone here is still a Foursquare/Swarm "editor", let's get that address changed as soon as they're open! ; )

Oh, and OEP is still a place as far as I know as of a couple of weeks ago. I forget the name all the time of the ownership (I wonder why) of that place and if they were the same people that tried to go in at the bottom corner slot in the Davis Bldg. by Money Alley. Probably mixing it up a tad.

User avatar
Jay9398
Posts: 139
Joined: 20 Oct 2016 12:35

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Jay9398 » 14 Sep 2018 09:08

CTroyMathis wrote:Oh, and OEP is still a place as far as I know as of a couple of weeks ago. I forget the name all the time of the ownership (I wonder why) of that place and if they were the same people that tried to go in at the bottom corner slot in the Davis Bldg. by Money Alley. Probably mixing it up a tad.


OEP is still a place. Adam Salazar owns that building and the adjacent City Tavern building. He was indeed the same person that was giving the bottom corner of the Davis Building a go. I don't know all the details there, but the timing of the Tavern move announcement and him pulling out of the Davis building was... interesting. IIRC it was the exact same day.

DPatel304
Posts: 2048
Joined: 19 Oct 2016 18:49
Location: Turtle Creek

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby DPatel304 » 20 Sep 2018 11:07

Image
New eatery and market is dishing casual fare in Dallas' Arts District. Called The Artisan, it's a new restaurant concept at KPMG Plaza at Hall Arts, located on the Texas Sculpture Walk, where it joins Flora Street Cafe and Musume, the Asian-fusion restaurant.

The Artisan Terrace Bar will be open Friday and Saturday evenings and will offer cocktails such as The Artisan Martini made with strawberries and balsamic, a jalapeno-cilantro mule, raspberry margarita, cucumber collins, vanilla old-gashioned, wine, and local and craft beer.

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/resta ... -district/

A new, casual eatery coming to the Arts District, and it looks like it'll stay open later on Fri/Sat and serve drinks as well.

User avatar
Tucy
Posts: 1563
Joined: 19 Oct 2016 12:50

Re: Downtown Dallas Retail

Postby Tucy » 21 Sep 2018 13:43

DPatel304 wrote:Image
New eatery and market is dishing casual fare in Dallas' Arts District. Called The Artisan, it's a new restaurant concept at KPMG Plaza at Hall Arts, located on the Texas Sculpture Walk, where it joins Flora Street Cafe and Musume, the Asian-fusion restaurant.

The Artisan Terrace Bar will be open Friday and Saturday evenings and will offer cocktails such as The Artisan Martini made with strawberries and balsamic, a jalapeno-cilantro mule, raspberry margarita, cucumber collins, vanilla old-gashioned, wine, and local and craft beer.

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/resta ... -district/

A new, casual eatery coming to the Arts District, and it looks like it'll stay open later on Fri/Sat and serve drinks as well.


Looks great! Open until 10:00 Friday and Saturday nights!