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Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 01 Mar 2020 14:34
by R1070
LOL...perfect!

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2020 10:45
by CaptainJilliams
Any update on when this one is going to finally come down?

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2020 15:36
by skeets
LeaningTowerGone.jpg
Finally gone!

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2020 15:44
by DPatel304
Haha.. well that was certainly fun while it lasted. I'm really hoping the developer does find some way to incorporate this into their future development though.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 03 Mar 2020 12:20
by cowboyeagle05
Like I said before the whole fiasco started the developer will have pictures and artwork done up maybe even a piece of the tear down will be turned into sculpture. Mind you by then it will be a distant memory. The News cycle was quite serious with all the CoronaVirus news and Trump stuff that this story blew up cause it was a distraction from the doom and gloom. Any other day and it would have not been as big of a deal.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 15 Aug 2020 23:11
by Urbandreamer

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 16 Aug 2020 21:50
by quixomniac
Urbandreamer wrote:https://kluv.radio.com/blogs/sybil/the-leaning-tower-of-dallas-former-site-becomes-a-theater

Opening in 10 days!


How dare they desecrate our holy land. :lol:
RIP Leaning tower of Dallas

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 17 Aug 2020 10:45
by cowboyeagle05
You mean the 2020 warning tower...that tower predicted the year so far and the length it took to finally come down.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 17 Aug 2020 11:47
by Tivo_Kenevil
cowboyeagle05 wrote:You mean the 2020 warning tower...that tower predicted the year so far and the length it took to finally come down.


The Omen tower?!

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 28 Aug 2020 16:54
by Tnexster
De La Vega Development takes $2.5B mixed-use project The Central back to the drawing board

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... pdate.html

"We’re in the design process and are working with the city on documents for two high-rise towers. We had to scrap the last phase, which was already designed, as we have different partners and a different deal structure now," De La Vega said Wednesday.


The redesign is expected to include elements found in the original plans, in addition to changes relevant to a post-COVID-19 world. While the new plans will still include high-rise office and residential, retail and a public park, De La Vega said some of the buildings are being redesigned to include better air filtration systems, touchless technology and more natural light. He also emphasized a focus on health and wellness, starting with a proposed four-acre public park.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 28 Aug 2020 19:54
by rono3849
I think this entire project is a pipe dream. They may get one or two 10-story buildings, but that's about it. Eventually, I see mid-rise apartment buildings littering most of the site.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 28 Aug 2020 20:36
by R1070
ANYTHING urban-ish is better than that Sam’s club proposal.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 28 Aug 2020 20:39
by dallaz
R1070 wrote:ANYTHING urban-ish is better than that Sam’s club proposal.

Facts

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 28 Aug 2020 21:35
by Tivo_Kenevil
rono3849 wrote:I think this entire project is a pipe dream. They may get one or two 10-story buildings, but that's about it. Eventually, I see mid-rise apartment buildings littering most of the site.

That's honestly the best thing that could happen at this point. I wouldn't be mad at all if that happen.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 29 Aug 2020 10:42
by cowboyeagle05
Leasing of the office tower is being handled by JLL. De La Vega is hoping an anchor tenant will be secured before the project is ready to break ground.

"Otherwise, it would be difficult to finance," he said.


This is the key point many of us already know but nice to see it written out in plain language. If he doesn't sign a lead tenant he will probably start selling off the land or be like Spire and just sit on the land for a decade hoping something pops up. His only advantage I would say is that by offering a project with more health and safety features related to the spread of COVID he could snag someone looking to make a splash by moving staff to a new "state of the art" facility. Even with a vaccine, it will take years to eliminate the fear completely and that is if it COVID-19 doesn't evolve making the vaccine useless.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 27 Feb 2021 04:12
by zblevinz555
https://inewhomes.com/the-central-phase-one-complex

Can anyone confirm a groundbreaking on this site. Apparently a residential component (17 story high rise) is under construction.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 27 Feb 2021 08:25
by Tivo_Kenevil
zblevinz555 wrote:https://inewhomes.com/the-central-phase-one-complex

Can anyone confirm a groundbreaking on this site. Apparently a residential component (17 story high rise) is under construction.


This interesting. Originally, the plan called for the following:

"Plans for the first phase of The Central include a 17-story office building, a 320-unit apartment high-rise, a 430-unit apartment project by JPI, a 300-room full-service hotel and a 150-room limited-service hotel. There will also be 110,000 square feet of eateries and entertainment space"

http://www.bokapowell.com/15795-2/

What's interesting now is that 17 story component is now all residential. Also, important to note that JPI announced in August 2020 that they were going to go big in 2021 in DFW. The link you posted also shows 700+ units in the 17 story tower. It makes me think that these, or at least some of them, won't be large luxurious apartments..which goes in line with what JPI said in the latter parts of last year.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... -star.html

I don't think construction has started. You may have found an inadvertent announcement.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 27 Feb 2021 08:34
by LPG
zblevinz555 wrote:https://inewhomes.com/the-central-phase-one-complex

Can anyone confirm a groundbreaking on this site. Apparently a residential component (17 story high rise) is under construction.


I haven’t been through there in a few weeks, but there is definitely a long, low slung Dallas donut that is decently far along. This may be underway, but I’m not sure. I was pretty surprised to see the progress on the aforementioned complex itself.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 27 Feb 2021 08:42
by Tucy
I think it may be more of "confused" "announcement." 750 apartments in a 17 story building seems unlikely. I don't know what that site is, but it looks like they may have cobbled together a set of random statements from the developer's earlier description of their first phase and created a useless mess.

17 stories is in the description of phase 1 (but for an office building) as is a total of 750 apartments (but in two separate buildings/developments).

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 27 Feb 2021 13:43
by Tivo_Kenevil
Tucy wrote:I think it may be more of "confused" "announcement." 750 apartments in a 17 story building seems unlikely. I don't know what that site is, but it looks like they may have cobbled together a set of random statements from the developer's earlier description of their first phase and created a useless mess.

17 stories is in the description of phase 1 (but for an office building) as is a total of 750 apartments (but in two separate buildings/developments).


You maybe right. But JPI was listed as a partner. And JPI only does multifamily. So it makes it even more confusing...

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 27 Feb 2021 14:09
by undefinedprocess
Really want all of this to get off the ground…

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 27 Feb 2021 15:34
by Tucy
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
Tucy wrote:I think it may be more of "confused" "announcement." 750 apartments in a 17 story building seems unlikely. I don't know what that site is, but it looks like they may have cobbled together a set of random statements from the developer's earlier description of their first phase and created a useless mess.

17 stories is in the description of phase 1 (but for an office building) as is a total of 750 apartments (but in two separate buildings/developments).


You maybe right. But JPI was listed as a partner. And JPI only does multifamily. So it makes it even more confusing...


JPI is building the doughnut apartment complex that is apparently under construction (430 of the 750 units that were supposed to be delivered in phase 1.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 28 Feb 2021 00:58
by zblevinz555
Jus think if there was no pandemic the amount cranes in the sky there would be right now. high rise projects going up left and right with those projects completing in roughly 2 to 3 years I’m guessing on average. I hope everything will bounce back and we see a flurry of cranes popping up in the coming months. I’ve heard there will be big changes with projects getting underway in 2021 but I’m not holding my breath

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 28 Feb 2021 18:27
by undefinedprocess
zblevinz555 wrote:Jus think if there was no pandemic the amount cranes in the sky there would be right now. high rise projects going up left and right with those projects completing in roughly 2 to 3 years I’m guessing on average. I hope everything will bounce back and we see a flurry of cranes popping up in the coming months. I’ve heard there will be big changes with projects getting underway in 2021 but I’m not holding my breath

Have thought about it every day for the last year… :(

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 11:10
by Hannibal Lecter
Developers reboot plans for huge project north of downtown Dallas

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... wn-dallas/

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 12:04
by Tivo_Kenevil
So nothing really has changed?...

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 12:08
by Tucy
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:So nothing really has changed?...


LOL Yeah, I couldn't detect any changes. Classic example of Steve Brown's development puffing service.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 12:31
by Tivo_Kenevil
Tucy wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:So nothing really has changed?...


LOL Yeah, I couldn't detect any changes. Classic example of Steve Brown's development puffing service.

He gotta meet his quota of development "news". If there's no new stories or updates..Refabricate an existing story!

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 12:35
by Tucy
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
Tucy wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:So nothing really has changed?...


LOL Yeah, I couldn't detect any changes. Classic example of Steve Brown's development puffing service.

He gotta meet his quota of development "news". If there's no new stories or updates..Refabricate an existing story!


Right... and call it a "reboot". :shock:

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 13:35
by Tnexster
There was more update news on DDI's annual meeting event today than any of these Steve stories.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 14:23
by undefinedprocess
Tnexster wrote:There was more update news on DDI's annual meeting event today than any of these Steve stories.

I got pulled into a meeting and missed this… :( Know if it was recorded?

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 15:12
by Tnexster
undefinedprocess wrote:
Tnexster wrote:There was more update news on DDI's annual meeting event today than any of these Steve stories.

I got pulled into a meeting and missed this… :( Know if it was recorded?


I believe it was but I need to go back and find it again, check the link they sent you.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 02 Mar 2021 15:16
by Tucy
undefinedprocess wrote:
Tnexster wrote:There was more update news on DDI's annual meeting event today than any of these Steve stories.

I got pulled into a meeting and missed this… :( Know if it was recorded?


https://marketscale.brand.live/c/we-are-downtown If you've got some time to waste...

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 03 Mar 2021 11:23
by CTroyMathis
Meanwhile, here's an LOL while it lasts online assuming they eventually realize their mistake:
https://rebusinessonline.com/de-la-vega ... in-dallas/

Dallas-based De La Vega Development is nearing completion of Phase I of The Central. . .

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 10 Mar 2021 14:54
by Tnexster
Apartment developer, retail brokerage join The Central in Dallas

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... ntial.html

Dallas-based StreetLights Residential has joined the project and will be developing its first high-rise apartment complex. The 18-story high-rise will include 350 apartment units. JPI is already developing another apartment complex to the north of the development, which will bring 430 units to the area.

Along with StreetLights, Dallas-based Falcon Realty Advisors has been selected to market and lease the project's retail and restaurant space. About 29,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space will be built as part of the project's first phase.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 10 Mar 2021 15:59
by cowboyeagle05
Well, thats a good sign except I doubt Streetlights highrise will be as nice looking as the concept renderings we have seen previously. Prepare for this project to be very piecemeal rather than a truly unified coordinated project. Since apartment rental developments are still such a strong market even in the pandemic the lead developer is easily able to just sell off parcels to these rental unit developers and wait around for office tenants to show interest. After all, this developer doesn't have a proven enough track record to pull off such a large project so having residential already filling in some parcels gets some movement while proving the project can move forward if a big tenant signs onto a proposed office high rise. There is very few big fish that will sign on just because you have control over such a valuable parcel they want the KDC's of the world to be involved so they know what they are getting will get done.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 10 Mar 2021 21:17
by R1070
I have positive feelings about this development though.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 11 Mar 2021 12:57
by cowboyeagle05
Which is the best way to feel about it.^
Hope for the best prepare for the worst. In this project's case, the worst was already defeated when the surrounding land was planned for a Sam's Club and that project was sent to the curb. Any highrise residential is a welcome sight here.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 11 Mar 2021 13:54
by eburress
Absolutely! The apartments being built already make this a success compared to that Sam's Club.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 11 Mar 2021 20:10
by Tivo_Kenevil
So the JPI and Street light development would make up the 700+ Apartments listed in the description? That alone make it's better than anything previously proposed on this site.

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 13 Mar 2021 04:01
by willyk
The JPI project looks like a stick wrap, but it’s encouraging to see that Street Lights will have some height.

https://www.buzzbuzzhome.com/us/jefferson-central

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 13 Mar 2021 10:42
by Tivo_Kenevil
I'm so tired of stucco..and idk what it is... But I've yet see decent stucco apartments in this city

We don't know how execute the style properly and the stucco quality looks cheap

Re: Cityplace East: ACS/Xerox redevelopment

Posted: 19 Mar 2021 20:32
by maconahey
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