Uptown Dallas: 2401 McKinney (406 FT / 29 ST)

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Re: Uptown Dallas:Trammell Crow Tower

Postby Redblock » 08 Sep 2020 19:04

They have recently posted zoning change request signs. The case number is Z190-305. Maybe someone can find some drawings.

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Re: Uptown Dallas:Trammell Crow Tower

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 08 Sep 2020 22:22

How much longer until the strip mall across the street is redeveloped... I wonder how profitable it is at this point. Them taxes keep goin up...

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Re: Uptown Dallas:Trammell Crow Tower

Postby Cbdallas » 09 Sep 2020 10:53

Hopefully this will create high rise development all the way up McKinney to the new Central Market Development.

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Postby Dallas12 » 09 Sep 2020 10:56

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:How much longer until the strip mall across the street is redeveloped... I wonder how profitable it is at this point. Them taxes keep goin up...

Taxes are passed straight through to the tenants. That’s prime real estate. The owner can get long term leases with rent escalators. Taxes, insurance, and utilities/maintenance all get passed on to their tenants.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: 2401 McKinney (~415 FT / ~27 ST)

Postby Redblock » 29 Oct 2020 09:07

CBRE is locating their headquarters from Los Angeles to Dallas.

This development is mentioned as a possible site if they eventually consolidate their local offices to one building.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/money/busi ... ea9399704c

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Postby tamtagon » 29 Oct 2020 10:07

now maybe ZaZa will add a tower...

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Postby R1070 » 29 Oct 2020 10:24

tamtagon wrote:now maybe ZaZa will add a tower...

That gas station lot would be great for a tower.

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Postby Tnexster » 25 Jan 2021 13:02

Uptown Dallas tower project on track with planning approval
Trammell Crow Co. plans 27-story high-rise on McKinney Avenue.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -approval/

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Re: Uptown Dallas: 2401 McKinney (~415 FT / ~27 ST)

Postby Mark Lea » 26 Jan 2021 12:11

Are there any photos that someone could post on here? Almost 3 years after GDPR was instituted, the DMN website still isn't compliant or accessible in Europe :/

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Postby quixomniac » 26 Jan 2021 15:16

Mark Lea wrote:Are there any photos that someone could post on here? Almost 3 years after GDPR was instituted, the DMN website still isn't compliant or accessible in Europe :/


Sure thing! There's not much in the article tho.
Development porn for all! :D
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Postby Tnexster » 26 Jan 2021 15:30

Nice that something will punch through the usual 20 floor cap.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: 2401 McKinney (~415 FT / ~27 ST)

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 26 Jan 2021 17:35

Doesn't look like anything has changed since the renders first came out

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Postby R1070 » 26 Jan 2021 20:10

This is going to be a great project.

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Postby Tnexster » 01 Mar 2021 10:06

Uptown Dallas’ next tower project wins approvals
Trammell Crow Co. gets final okay for McKinney Avenue office and retail high-rise.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... approvals/

The 670,000-square-foot development was designed by Connecticut-based architect Pickard Chilton and Dallas’ HKS and will include restaurant and retail space on the ground floor. Truluck’s plans to move into the building after the two years of construction.

“We are excited about this new development at 2401 McKinney,” Crow Co. senior managing director Scott Krikorian told the council. “We do not take this opportunity lightly.

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Postby rono3849 » 01 Mar 2021 11:57

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I wonder how long it will be before they start tearing down Truluck's building & start construction?
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Postby eburress » 01 Mar 2021 12:19

I really wish they'd put in some real sidewalks in front of this and get rid of those useless grass strips.

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Postby R1070 » 01 Mar 2021 15:00

It’s gonna have a great impact right there.

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Postby Kelley USA » 04 Mar 2021 11:32

Update... Looks like the project will now be 29 stories. Also a few more pics that I hadn't seen before.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... n-for.html

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Postby R1070 » 04 Mar 2021 12:10

Any word on expected start?

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Postby Tucy » 04 Mar 2021 14:21

Kelley USA wrote:Update... Looks like the project will now be 29 stories. Also a few more pics that I hadn't seen before.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... n-for.html


Added two floors and reduced the overall height? hmmmm

FWIW, the renderings don't seem to show a 29-story building. It's a stretch to count 27 stories.

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Postby Tucy » 04 Mar 2021 14:23

R1070 wrote:Any word on expected start?


Per the DMN article, "Crow Co. hopes to start construction on the building this year." What that probably means is: whenever they sign sufficient office leases to get financing.

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Postby Kelley USA » 23 Jul 2021 09:55

Looks like this one is perhaps ready to get going Feb 2022. $200 million project:

https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/ ... 2021020495

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Postby Tnexster » 23 Jul 2021 11:23

Three year build? Didn't think it was that large.

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 23 Jul 2021 14:01

The little shopping center across the street looking like the next candidate for redevelopment...

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Postby R1070 » 23 Jul 2021 14:03

I’d like to see the gas station site be redeveloped. That’s such a great location that’s wasted.

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Postby Tucy » 12 Nov 2021 10:07

Dallas City Council approved a plan to give CBRE/Trammel Crow subsidies if they build this building. The subsidy would require CBRE to lease 200,000 square feet of space in their own building! The folks at CBRE must be laughing all the way to the bank.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -and-jobs/

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Postby tamtagon » 14 Nov 2021 08:09

^the amount of assistance Trammel Crow Companies have received over the decades from Dallas is staggering. What a weird, perverse standard operating procedure that's evolved between for-profit companies and municipal entities.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: 2401 McKinney (406 FT / 29 ST)

Postby Tucy » 20 Jun 2022 13:53

What's up with this project?

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Postby kingkong34 » 21 Jun 2022 09:06

I've noticed that they have had a rezoning sign on the property for some time.

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Postby RodB » 01 Jul 2022 14:59

There doesn't appear to be anything happening with this project.

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Postby ajderry2017 » 01 Jul 2022 20:21

Someone try calling the manager of Truluks? See if they know anything about closing for construction?

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Postby rono3849 » 02 Jul 2022 13:25

ajderry2017 wrote:Someone try calling the manager of Truluks? See if they know anything about closing for construction?


We've got to have some struggling journalists in our mist. Right? ;)

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Postby tamtagon » 02 Jul 2022 17:32

This is the one that CBRE is moving to?

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Postby Tucy » 02 Jul 2022 18:30

tamtagon wrote:This is the one that CBRE is moving to?


Yes. One would have thought it would have been underway by now...

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 04 Jul 2022 13:27

This has Trammel Crow and CBRE involved all pretty sturdy developers. The question is the Maple Ave road work getting in the way of this starting at all? They have had Maple ave along the southern edge of this site for months now. Plus the apartment building further down Maple. DId this site maybe need some utility work before construction could start for some reason maybe? CBRE isn't going anywhere so it's odd but also I can see them not being in a rush too.
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Postby CTroyMathis » 05 Jul 2022 13:12

Maple Ave. is so bizarrely bad between McKinney Ave. and a little short of Wolf. There are massive divots really close to the McK intersection that I'm not sure you can just call them potholes. This as a pedestrian observer from the sidewalk.

Regardless, while I have zero knowledge of if the street chaos has anything to do with the construction schedule of this tower - it does appear it is definitely not helpful. I guess I could use a lot more info on that detail that I don't have at the moment - I'll try to look up a few things later.

Between old Old Warsaw/3001 Maple/28whatever Maple/2401 McK/Springs-whatever - there's a lot of shit going on or presumed to be going on in this short and fairly narrow corridor. Maple will have to be *resurfaced again for sure in a couple of years or so, assuming all or most of the vertical construction happens. I'll post some photos later, too. My lunch break was a loop around a lot of this today.

*-My own anecdote based on what kind of heavy equipment I see pass through constantly with only one building (old Old Warsaw) u/c, deliveries to The Crescent's hilariously tiny loading dock, and, other stuff with street work and nearby demos. Granted, 3001 is u/c, but, they're largely using Wolf.

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Postby ajderry2017 » 01 Aug 2022 22:06

Called Trulucks manager today. Even they don’t know when construction will start. Saying “it keeps getting pushed back”. As of now you can book a reservation through December

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ajderry2017 wrote:Called Trulucks manager today. Even they don’t know when construction will start. Saying “it keeps getting pushed back”. As of now you can book a reservation through December


What's the holdup here?

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Postby DFW » 02 Aug 2022 13:51

I did notice that a bunch of car barriers blocks piled up just to the right side of the True Lucks restaurant parking lot. Don't know if this means anything

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 02 Aug 2022 20:13

DFW wrote:I did notice that a bunch of car barriers blocks piled up just to the right side of the True Lucks restaurant parking lot. Don't know if this means anything

That was for street work

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Postby undefinedprocess » 02 Aug 2022 23:10

Tnexster wrote:
ajderry2017 wrote:Called Trulucks manager today. Even they don’t know when construction will start. Saying “it keeps getting pushed back”. As of now you can book a reservation through December


What's the holdup here?

My guess would be something related to the CBRE deal, but that could be 180º in the wrong direction, so... :P

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Postby Tnexster » 03 Aug 2022 10:21

On the plus side this means Trulocks chocolate cake will be available for a while longer which is awesome. I thought this one would have already started by now.

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Postby scott2 » 03 Aug 2022 11:27

What's the holdup here?
My guess would be something related to the CBRE deal, but that could be 180º in the wrong direction, so...

No...that is most logical as no construction will start until the CBRE agreement is finalized ( a guarantee for the construction $$$). Wish they had included residential somehow in this project so you could get the killer cake delivered from Trulucks the ground floor to your door. Maybe next time.

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Postby thelivingworld » 05 Aug 2022 01:17

Construction Journal is now expecting this project to start August 2022. This was just updated today. They just had the dates they pulled from TDLR before. CBRE did just release a very positive quarterly earning report today. We shall see.

"A 27-story office building is being planned here. It will include 670,000 square feet of office space, underground parking and 15,000 square feet of ground floor retail. Truluck's will be the anchor retail tenant. As of June 7, 2022, construction documents have been issued. Final pricing is being finalized and construction is anticipated to begin soon."
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Postby Tnexster » 05 Aug 2022 10:41

So basically it sounds like I need to go get my cake sooner than later.

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Postby CTroyMathis » 05 Aug 2022 11:06

I wonder if Trulucks might ghost out of some location and do a revised menu for pick-up/courier vice just shutting down for a couple of years or so whenever this project actually starts. Just thinking out loud.

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Postby Tnexster » 05 Aug 2022 14:34

CTroyMathis wrote:I wonder if Trulucks might ghost out of some location and do a revised menu for pick-up/courier vice just shutting down for a couple of years or so whenever this project actually starts. Just thinking out loud.


That would be awesome! I don't go there often but I do like it a lot. And during the pandemic that place was always packed.

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Postby tamtagon » 05 Aug 2022 15:39

I liked the bloody Marys, with horseradish. That might have been fog city diner, though ...

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Postby ajderry2017 » 06 Aug 2022 12:40

I’ll keep you guys updated on whether they cancel my “reservation” I set for December :D