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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Tnexster » 30 Jan 2020 10:49

If you are living in the apartment tower behind...along McKinney...your view is about to change drastically. As in, you won't have one. Imagine a balcony that looks at a wall of glass.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 30 Jan 2020 10:58

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 30 Jan 2020 11:24

Somehow the AMLI tower is still under construction and this new project is completed in the rendering lol

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby jetnd87 » 30 Jan 2020 11:32

Tnexster wrote:If you are living in the apartment tower behind...along McKinney...your view is about to change drastically. As in, you won't have one. Imagine a balcony that looks at a wall of glass.


That's what happens in every urban environment though.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby exelone31 » 30 Jan 2020 12:26

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Somehow the AMLI tower is still under construction and this new project is completed in the rendering lol


If that were the case I think that a good 50-60% of this forum would have self-immolated, myself included. :lol:

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby rono3849 » 30 Jan 2020 12:39

exelone31 wrote:
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Somehow the AMLI tower is still under construction and this new project is completed in the rendering lol


If that were the case I think that a good 50-60% of this forum would have self-immolated, myself included. :lol:


That is absolutely hilarious. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby eburress » 30 Jan 2020 12:57

jetnd87 wrote:
Tnexster wrote:If you are living in the apartment tower behind...along McKinney...your view is about to change drastically. As in, you won't have one. Imagine a balcony that looks at a wall of glass.


That's what happens in every urban environment though.


Though he should have seen this coming when he bought, 1999 McKinney is probably pissed about this tower too! lol

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby texasstar » 30 Jan 2020 13:22

LOL, don't you miss him.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Tnexster » 30 Jan 2020 14:39

eburress wrote:
jetnd87 wrote:
Tnexster wrote:If you are living in the apartment tower behind...along McKinney...your view is about to change drastically. As in, you won't have one. Imagine a balcony that looks at a wall of glass.


That's what happens in every urban environment though.


Though he should have seen this coming when he bought, 1999 McKinney is probably pissed about this tower too! lol


Technically he will still have a skyline view, it's just only the buildings across the street.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Mr. Amsterdam » 30 Jan 2020 14:58

lakewoodhobo wrote:Screen Shot 2020-01-30 at 10.56.56 AM.jpg


Looks tall for a 30 story, no?
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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 30 Jan 2020 14:58

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Tnexster » 30 Jan 2020 15:54

^Thanks....what do we think about that entrance?

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Tnexster » 30 Jan 2020 16:03

lakewoodhobo wrote:Screen Shot 2020-01-30 at 10.56.56 AM.jpg


So, Park District Residences is either 32, 33 or 34 stories depending on what web page you find describing it. Looking at the rendering in this pic, this 30 floor Miyami tower towers above Park Districts 30 plus story tower.

Just pointing that out.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Thymant » 31 Jan 2020 06:50

Tnexster wrote:
So, Park District Residences is either 32, 33 or 34 stories depending on what web page you find describing it. Looking at the rendering in this pic, this 30 floor Miyami tower towers above Park Districts 30 plus story tower.

Just pointing that out.


But aren’t office floor heights usually taller than residential, which is why this one might actually be a bit taller than the Park District residential tower?

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby NdoorTX » 31 Jan 2020 08:57

and two more for funsies:

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby itsjrd1964 » 31 Jan 2020 10:02

Any idea which hotel brand this time? It should be one that's not already represented in the CBD/Uptown.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby muncien » 31 Jan 2020 10:38

I know living walls are all the rage, but man... you could really make some amazing LED displays with those walls if you wanted to.
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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 31 Jan 2020 10:50

The hotel is a part of the second later phase. I doubt they have even a hotel flag meeting yet. This is one of those launch flashy renderings with multiple phases and see if you can make it through the first phase. The second phase will probaly get lots of design tweaks when and if it ever launches.
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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby R1070 » 31 Jan 2020 10:58

Would be a good spot for an Intown Loews.

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Postby Tnexster » 31 Jan 2020 13:52

muncien wrote:I know living walls are all the rage, but man... you could really make some amazing LED displays with those walls if you wanted to.


I would love to see the living walls come true along with the gardens. Hope they are serious about both of those.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby itsjrd1964 » 01 Feb 2020 09:53

>>dumb question moment<<

Which corner is this going to? I pretty much thought all the Klyde Warren-adjacents along the north were spoken for, once the Park District/PwC complex went in.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 01 Feb 2020 10:38

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Tnexster » 02 Feb 2020 14:56

Pool area about to be walled in.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Zmitz » 05 Feb 2020 10:07

https://candysdirt.com/2020/02/05/oak-l ... ects-seen/

Yes, I'm aware the article talks about several unrelated projects that could be posted to the respective threads, but I wanted to bring attention to the diagram included for the Miyama project. They are shooting for 450'!

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Tnexster » 05 Feb 2020 11:11

Zmitz wrote:https://candysdirt.com/2020/02/05/oak-lawn-committee-revived-braniff-building-among-four-projects-seen/

Yes, I'm aware the article talks about several unrelated projects that could be posted to the respective threads, but I wanted to bring attention to the diagram included for the Miyama project. They are shooting for 450'!


Comments from Candy....

The asks for such a building are not inconsequential (but most wouldn’t even need to be asked on the south side of Woodall Rodgers). They want to triple the floor area ratio to 12.5 (seen in the bulk of the building). The height almost doubles from 240-feet to 450-feet (again, not an issue on the other side of Klyde Warren). They want to reduce parking (like everyone else). More controversially, they want to eliminate setbacks on Harwood to zero. While initially concerning, it was explained that at ground level there would be wide sidewalk and greenery setbacks, they would just be setback under a cantilever. While some were uncomfortable with this, I felt that if their zoning was written properly, it’s essentially a shaded and dry place to walk. But it is the main drag into Klyde Warren, so you want it to feel generous (more detail needed, I think).

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby rono3849 » 04 Sep 2020 22:51

texasstar wrote:Image

So, this is TWO 30-story towers. If this were all in one tower, it would be the 60-story goodness we all long for. But, that would probably never get approved. Because, Love Field.


Has anyone heard if this project is proceeding or has it become just another pipe dream?

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby ajderry2017 » 10 Sep 2020 17:38

rono3849 wrote:
texasstar wrote:Image

So, this is TWO 30-story towers. If this were all in one tower, it would be the 60-story goodness we all long for. But, that would probably never get approved. Because, Love Field.


Has anyone heard if this project is proceeding or has it become just another pipe dream?


Lol here you go


https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... h-kdc.html

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby R1070 » 10 Sep 2020 23:24

Supposed to be two towers.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby rono3849 » 18 Nov 2020 17:55

This project has totally gone off radar & has been overshadowed by the most recent announcements in Victory Park & Uptown. Should be interesting if this one ever gets going.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby CTroyMathis » 18 Nov 2020 21:06

This one will come around eventually. Whether or not as envisioned originally, this family knows the potential and is extremely patient. Maybe this years antics might make the overall project scope better someday in the future, even.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby tamtagon » 18 Nov 2020 22:24

I'd rather see an art deco masterpiece on this spot. Rococo is similar enough to the present day standard bearer...

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby joshua.dodd » 18 Nov 2020 23:21

I have glass fatigue at this point.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby dd_dweller » 19 Nov 2020 09:04

The more I see this design, I dislike the base of the tower more and more. For such a prominent spot, you’d think it would be more welcoming. It looks so crammed in this spot.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby R1070 » 19 Nov 2020 10:36

I agree. The street facing sides need to be redesigned at the lower levels to not seem so walled off.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby rono3849 » 19 Nov 2020 10:38

dd_dweller wrote:The more I see this design, I dislike the base of the tower more and more. For such a prominent spot, you’d think it would be more welcoming. It looks so crammed in this spot.


That's a smart observation. I reminds me of something you might see in Midtown Manhattan. Forced green space on a sidewalk.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby DPatel304 » 19 Nov 2020 10:39

rono3849 wrote:This project has totally gone off radar & has been overshadowed by the most recent announcements in Victory Park & Uptown. Should be interesting if this one ever gets going.


Haha, you're absolutely right. I had completely forgotten about this, but that's a good sign that we have so many good things happening in Dallas that it's hard to keep track of them all.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby eburress » 19 Nov 2020 10:40

Agreed. Facing the park the way it is, the base of the tower should feel much more connected.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby THRILLHO » 20 Nov 2020 00:11

joshua.dodd wrote:I have glass fatigue at this point.

I'm here too. 30+ years of glass walls dominating american architecture and I'm worn out. This particular project is among the most boring looking of the ones on the horizon.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby rono3849 » 20 Nov 2020 10:44

THRILLHO wrote:
joshua.dodd wrote:I have glass fatigue at this point.

I'm here too. 30+ years of glass walls dominating american architecture and I'm worn out. This particular project is among the most boring looking of the ones on the horizon.


The greenery on multi-levels is relatively new for Dallas, so it's better than the Kleenex boxes in most of Harwood's portfolio. :mrgreen:

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby eburress » 20 Nov 2020 11:49

For sure, assuming the towers end up actually looking like the renderings (where Harwood usually falls down), this would be way better than any Harwood project so far.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 20 Nov 2020 13:28

But will there be LEDs? That's the key here.

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby quixomniac » 20 Nov 2020 17:02

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:But will there be LEDs? That's the key here.


It better have LED's we're leaving in the future here. :mrgreen:
Given all the greenery they expect to have. IT would even be advantageous to incorporate them.
I know some of the greenhouses around DFW have LED growlights that give this interesting purple glow to them. It's very alluring and helps with growth.

Of course its not the same thing for outdoor plants.
but the issue with alot of these renderings is that they put alot of greenery
without considering the upkeep and then the plants all die in the Dallas Summer Sun.
Just like how Central Expressway was supposed to be.
And then you are just left with dead plants which looks way worse.

So they better put LED's. its for the plants :)

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Re: KDC & Miyama Project - 30 ST

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 21 Nov 2020 10:22

No, non-native plants die in the Texas sun particularly when they are planted in ways that are not realistic to the natural environment here. We have plenty of lush greenery that does survive here beyond dessert plant life but in many cases Dallas developers try to force things that look great in other states because someone in some upper office above the landscape architects office dictates it because they want that East Coast look etc. I trust that the landscaping architects know what they are doing in most cases but I imagine they also know what the CEOS want to see when a project has a ribbon cutting with the press all around.

If Mexico City can make vertical gardens work which in their case help reduce pollution I imagine Dallas could to. Dallas developers don't want the hassle and with city governments here not having any desire to push developers you get what you get.
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