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I hope I'm wrong, but I have a suspicion we're about to get "Blue Ciel'd" on this one.

exelone31 wrote:I hope I'm wrong, but I have a suspicion we're about to get "Blue Ciel'd" on this one.

Sorry, just to making sure.. What exactly do you mean by "Blue Ciel'd"? Like not as pretty as renderings? not selling like hot cakes? LOL

Don't get me wrong anyone, I like Bleu Ciel.. its tall.

What floor does the boxy design begin to break up? I imagined this being more interesting.

Roman_Patrick wrote:

exelone31 wrote:I hope I'm wrong, but I have a suspicion we're about to get "Blue Ciel'd" on this one.

Sorry, just to making sure.. What exactly do you mean by "Blue Ciel'd"? Like not as pretty as renderings? not selling like hot cakes? LOL

Don't get me wrong anyone, I like Bleu Ciel.. its tall.

Not a pretty as the renderings. They look really nice (IMO) and crisp, but I worry the glass will be very muted and the greenery won't pop as much as it seems.

The sad thing is the greenery in these renderings sometimes never materializes as lush as it is in developer fantasy land. That's largely because renderings are a marketing tool not a document of record. They are meant to flash and excite politicians and the public into saying YES YES YES! Once you have looked at renderings for years you start to see the cracks in them. You start to mute the over saturated colors and lush environment and see the reality through the smoke screen. Past the luxury cars, fake random pedestrians with Saks5th Ave bags and baby strollers. Trees and plants that look like something out of the garden of Eden. If you don't look past the BS in the renderings you will always be disappointed.

The greenery shown in most of these drawings would never live past July in Dallas we need to get real about that.

R1070 wrote:What floor does the boxy design begin to break up? I imagined this being more interesting.

Looks like it'll get more interesting once a few more floors are added

It's good to see that gap fill in.

It looks like they are working on that section between the two larger tower cubes, hope this looks as good as the render.

It looks like it may appear taller on the skyline than it appears to in the renderings. It looks short and squatty in some of the digital images posted.

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That parking garage screen is pretty interesting. It will be interesting to see this one finished

I'm waiting for some of the glass to make an appearance.

How many more floors to go?

3 floors left

maconahey wrote:

Nice photos! I can't wait to see how the little European inspired esplanade turns out.

So still no glass....

Not sure why, but this seems taller from a distance than it does up close to me

^^^^ I agree. I think it’s because it’s on a higher elevation.

Is this one topped out?

The elevation is Harwood's biggest advantage with their developed property. Its constantly made their projects that are moderately tall appear more prominent. Well the elevation and having direct access to the freeway ramps.

I wish this one were about 10 floors taller.....well, I say that now...once the glass goes in I may change my mind.

Glass is now being installed.

R1070 wrote:Is this one topped out?

It does appear it is. Very recently.

Ceremony was today actually!: Video Link.

Saw the glass from 35 today, saw it twice and don't know what to say except....it looks dark.

Tnexster wrote:Saw the glass from 35 today, saw it twice and don't know what to say except....it looks dark.

So, this is going to be another Blu Ciel?

Tnexster wrote:Saw the glass from 35 today, saw it twice and don't know what to say except....it looks dark.

Didn't look dark to me from close up, it similar tent to the renderings. Maybe there was a reflection?

cowboyeagle05 wrote:The elevation is Harwood's biggest advantage with their developed property. Its constantly made their projects that are moderately tall appear more prominent. Well the elevation and having direct access to the freeway ramps.

Hall Arts, Flora & Olive, and the proposals for 3001 Turtle Creek, Cedar Maple Plaza, Dallas Smart District tower, 2012 Field (Hillwood smokestack in fishnets by Foster+Partners), Harwood Forum, and Hines' Victory Center and 3099 Olive are all as basically horizontal at the towers' top as 1900 Pearl, The Union, the Epic, all the Arts Plaza designs, and Park District were.

Even the ambitious Cityplace East is about as flat-roofed as McKinney & Olive, which is to say, really still less sloped than even 2100 McKinney was.

Not one of our projects with prominence have the geometry to summon much of any psychological affinity, a kind of prominence much more consequential than mere presence as a skyline silhouette.

Only AMLI's tower, because it had an inspiration to live up to, breaks ranks a little with the rest.

First-mover advantage north of Downtown goes to the first builder 100 meters+ that fills the geographic void with a summit that's memorable.

Dallas still doesn't have a bunch of aesthetically overeager, clumsy locals anywhere near similar enough to SRSS, TVS and John Portman, for example, that we would have to worry about turning into another Atlanta with dum-dum pinnacles like birthday cake candles everywhere.

I keep seeing more and more of the glass appearing on this building and still think it looks dark. It doesn't look bad and in fact the design elements in the glass look good it's just darker than I had imagined it would be but most of Harwoods building exteriors are.

Tnexster wrote:CyrusOne relocating its headquarters to Dallas' Harwood District

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... allas.html

The reason why I like this building, is because of the earuopean style esplanade ! I'm excited to experience it!

Warrior2015 wrote:

Tnexster wrote:CyrusOne relocating its headquarters to Dallas' Harwood District

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... allas.html

The reason why I like this building, is because of the earuopean style esplanade ! I'm excited to experience it!

Hopefully it's livelier than Las Colinas' European style canal.

That's a nice view, looks like an awfully large garage tho.

friend sent me this from the residences at the stoneleigh

At least they will be wrapping the street facing portion of the podium in glass.

It seems like the finished products are starting to look more and more like the renderings Harwood Int'l teases us with. We may eventually get some stellar eye candy after all!

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That's the best pic we have seen yet, looks nice.

Really wish this was 30 stories

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Really wish this was 30 stories

Yeah I do too this one turned out to be very nice looking and its too short.