Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

Post by **Tnexster** » 23 Oct 2019 16:23

Has anybody else noticed the exterior look coming together on the west side? Lots of glass, which appears to be very dark but the exterior starting to show up looks very light blueish/grey. Maybe somebody will get a closer look and a picture soon.

maconahey · Post by **maconahey** » 24 Oct 2019 10:50

Meant to post these yesterday

eburress · Post by **eburress** » 24 Oct 2019 13:43

Awesome, thanks for sharing!

Post by **Tnexster** » 24 Oct 2019 14:15

That looks very nice!

Post by **Tnexster** » 02 Nov 2019 12:33

Tried to make a count yesterday, looks like they are on 14 or 15.

maconahey · Post by **maconahey** » 03 Nov 2019 20:13

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 03 Nov 2019 21:19

Olive & Flora Tower continues to rise.

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maconahey · Post by **maconahey** » 12 Nov 2019 14:43

Post by **Tnexster** » 13 Nov 2019 09:59

Amazing how big this is at ground level.

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 03 Dec 2019 20:13

From last week and yesterday:

texasstar · Post by **texasstar** » 04 Dec 2019 13:38

Nice shots, Troy!

Roman_Patrick · Post by **Roman_Patrick** » 04 Dec 2019 15:07

Great pics! This tower is such a game changer. Love it

Cbdallas · Post by **Cbdallas** » 04 Dec 2019 16:09

This part of downtown is really starting to gel with hotels, residential, restaurants and office in this area.

dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 05 Dec 2019 00:14

I found this drone video on YouTube. It shows the building quite well.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... GLqhZFaX3s

NdoorTX · Post by **NdoorTX** » 05 Dec 2019 09:52

that drone link is great! Uptown, Klyde Warren + DTD look fantastic.

Post by **Tnexster** » 05 Dec 2019 10:15

The drone video is pretty amazing.

Kelley USA · Post by **Kelley USA** » 05 Dec 2019 14:38

Makes me wonder if there are any plans to eventually replace that RREAF Holdings building. It seems ripe for demo for a much larger mixed-use project especially with the pending addition to Klyde Warren.

dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 05 Dec 2019 14:52

Kelley USA wrote:Makes me wonder if there are any plans to eventually replace that RREAF Holdings building. It seems ripe for demo for a much larger mixed-use project especially with the pending addition to Klyde Warren.

D Magazine wrote a story about it a few years ago

https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/ ... in-dallas/

maconahey · Post by **maconahey** » 06 Dec 2019 15:32

texasstar · Post by **texasstar** » 07 Dec 2019 06:46

Sweet pic, maconahey!

Post by **tamtagon** » 07 Dec 2019 07:56

...we need to get another 40+ story tower going in the CBD.

Post by **cowboyeagle05** » 07 Dec 2019 10:43

We need more residential doesn't need to be 40 stories to make a positive impact on the overall health of downtown.

Post by **tamtagon** » 07 Dec 2019 10:54

^Totally agree with that, but residential units in the greater downtown area - CBD, East Dallas, Oak Lawn/Uptown, West Dallas, Oak Cliff, South Dallas/Cedars - has increased steadily for years now and shows no sign whatsoever of coming to the end of "a cycle."

These taller residential buildings are more expensive, 'more' permanent, reinforce the sense of high density and will allow the overpriced Dallas Donut stick apartments to become relatively less expensive. Greater Downtown should have 500,000 residents; we need more dwellings per acre for sure.

Tucy · Post by **Tucy** » 08 Dec 2019 10:23

tamtagon wrote:^Totally agree with that, but residential units in the greater downtown area - CBD, East Dallas, Oak Lawn/Uptown, West Dallas, Oak Cliff, South Dallas/Cedars - has increased steadily for years now and shows no sign whatsoever of coming to the end of "a cycle."

These taller residential buildings are more expensive, 'more' permanent, reinforce the sense of high density and will allow the overpriced Dallas Donut stick apartments to become relatively less expensive. Greater Downtown should have 500,000 residents; we need more dwellings per acre for sure.

Are you defining greater downtown the same as the area Downtown Dallas Inc says now has a population of 70,000?

Post by **tamtagon** » 08 Dec 2019 11:15

For the 500,000 resident population, I'm thinking inside Loop 12, broadly.

Tucy · Post by **Tucy** » 08 Dec 2019 12:13

tamtagon wrote:For the 500,000 resident population, I'm thinking inside Loop 12, broadly.

Any idea of what the current population of that area might be? I would hope it would already be close to or above 500,000.

EDIT: I just looked up the numbers. As of the 2010 census, the population inside Loop 12 was already above 500,000. (I came up with 545,000, which includes a little bit of population just outside Loop 12, because of the way census tracts fall.)

Post by **tamtagon** » 09 Dec 2019 19:14

^Thanks Tucy! that's a big area... I'll say the population ~within loop 12 should double, increase by 500,000.

st0760 · Post by **st0760** » 15 Dec 2019 22:59

View from above in TCC (long time lurker, first time poster, so apologies if the format is wonky or broken)

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dallaz · Post by **dallaz** » 15 Dec 2019 23:04

^^^nice pic

Post by **Tnexster** » 16 Dec 2019 08:40

Great pic! Thanks for posting!

Chris Sapphire · Post by **Chris Sapphire** » 18 Dec 2019 01:41

Took this quick pic after my church visit at the Cathedral yesterday evening. It's rising up fast!

Kelley USA · Post by **Kelley USA** » 18 Dec 2019 09:09

^^ This one does seem to be going up at a rapid pace! Maybe it's just me though??

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 18 Dec 2019 09:36

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It's nearly half-built now. I expect the main structure to be completed by late February.

Post by **Tnexster** » 18 Dec 2019 11:35

So they are on 20?

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 19 Dec 2019 10:47

If not, they're very close to it. I didn't have my hard hat on, so they would not let me on site. LOL.

texasstar · Post by **texasstar** » 21 Dec 2019 08:40

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 06 Jan 2020 22:26

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Flora & Olive Lofts Tower is moving along at a rapid pace & is starting to make a presence on the Downtown skyline.

dalbert · Post by **dalbert** » 07 Jan 2020 09:04

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maconahey · Post by **maconahey** » 07 Jan 2020 15:03

Cbdallas · Post by **Cbdallas** » 07 Jan 2020 16:10

With what is happening on Ross and Flora and all the way to the Park this part of downtown is coming together really nice. If they can come up with a plan to redo Flora along the Arts District it should all become super activated.

DPatel304 · Post by **DPatel304** » 07 Jan 2020 17:17

What more could they do to Flora St? Seems pretty great to me as is, actually, unless I'm missing something.

mdg109 · Post by **mdg109** » 07 Jan 2020 18:53

I just hope this activates restaurant and retail between Olive and Leonard streets. The Arts District feels pretty dead most of the time.

jetnd87 · Post by **jetnd87** » 07 Jan 2020 21:48

The boutique hotel should help a little (more so than the handful of lux residences I'd think), but we'll have to wait for the Atelier to start filling up to bring a bunch more bodies down there on a regular basis. Followed by the JW Marriott which should have a much bigger impact than the Hall hotel.

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 07 Jan 2020 22:01

This project connects way better to the street than Museum Tower.

Post by **cowboyeagle05** » 08 Jan 2020 09:40

The City has an updated Master Plan for Flora street/Arts District coming so if they implement anything from it that will improve things. Flora Street is in need of an overhaul it's piecemeal of 80's design elements and the early 2000's AT&T Performing Arts additions are part of the problem. Lots of the granite stone they implemented in the '80s as the sidewalk are dangerous and not ADA compliant and in need of replacement. The Arts District Museums and Venues have been pushing for it along with some sort of better solution to Pearl that makes it safer for pedestrians to cross.

All of this rests on the city to actually implement the Updated Master Plan and the city of Dallas is bad about doing master plans and never doing much after but in this case you have AT&T PAC and the Museums who pushed for the updated plan and will push for actual projects to come out of it.

Erick_g02 · Post by **Erick_g02** » 08 Jan 2020 13:25

I wish the wall in front of the Dallas Symphony that fronts Pearl Ave would get torn down. It would open up the Symphony's plaza area to a view of this tower and the rest of the Arts District and downtown. The Symphony would certainly look more inviting. I walk on the sidewalk next to this wall all the time and giant pond cypress trees that line Pearl on this end would stand out even more.

Post by **cowboyeagle05** » 08 Jan 2020 13:59

I believe that idea was already proposed the problem is Pearl. Keeping Pearl in its current NASCAR speedway format and taking down the wall creates other problems. If the wall comes down some slowing mechanisms need to be put in place for more than a few reasons.

maconahey · Post by **maconahey** » 22 Jan 2020 12:18

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 28 Jan 2020 07:20

From yesterday afternoon:

https://twitter.com/CTroyMathis/status/ ... 0098520065

And, a week ago:

texasstar · Post by **texasstar** » 28 Jan 2020 08:42

Great shots, Troy and Maconahey!