Dallas Fort Worth Urban Forum

Work set to begin next year on Oak Lawn redevelopment
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/202 ... velopment/

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PegasusAblon last year obtained zoning to construct the residential towers behind the retail strip along Cedar Springs Avenue at Throckmorton Street.

The developer was given approval to build two residential towers on the parking lots behind the existing buildings.

Construction is set to start in January to make way for the new buildings, according to planning documents filed with the state.

cowboyeagle05 wrote:This is def one of those projects where I wish we could see actual renderings. The ones pictured above are concept renderings, not the final designs but since they have the necessary zoning, they might not show off renderings before construction starts.

LongonBigD wrote:Is it just me or does the night view rendering look nothing like the day rendering except the basic shape of the building? Maybe this is all conceptual at this point.

LongonBigD wrote:Is it just me or does the night view rendering look nothing like the day rendering except the basic shape of the building? Maybe this is all conceptual at this point.

Called Ablon @ Cedar Springs, the apartment towers are to include more than 400 residential units. The tallest of the high-rises is planned at 20 floors, with retail on the lower floors facing a new public plaza along Throckmorton Street.

The Grapevine Bar is looking for a new home in Dallas. The 26-year-old dive will need to move by mid-2023, when its lease is up.
The recognizable Maple Avenue property was purchased by Crow Holdings, the group that has developed dozens of pockets in Dallas-Fort Worth, including the 12.5-acre Old Parkland campus across the street from the Grapevine.

OrangeMike wrote:Sounds like Old Parkland will keep metastasizing along the other side of Maple.

Historic Dallas dive Grapevine Bar isn’t closing — but it will move
https://www.dallasnews.com/food/drinks/ ... will-move/

The Grapevine Bar is looking for a new home in Dallas. The 26-year-old dive will need to move by mid-2023, when its lease is up.
The recognizable Maple Avenue property was purchased by Crow Holdings, the group that has developed dozens of pockets in Dallas-Fort Worth, including the 12.5-acre Old Parkland campus across the street from the Grapevine.

LongonBigD wrote:Another DMN story about yet another new proposed high-rise MF development in that sliver between Oak Lawn Ave and Turtle Creek (north of Maple, south of Cedar Springs). This area is talked about at a hot spot of development, but all I've seen (besides Toll Brothers) is all hat and no cattle. I suppose the key phrase here is in the title, "in the works." Hard to get excited.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realest ... 5818956568

"The area just north of Uptown is seeing a building boom with a handful of new towers in the works.

Now a Chicago property firm, FRC Realty Inc., has filed plans with the state for a 24-story apartment tower to be constructed just north of Turtle Creek on Brown Street just north of Turtle Creek Boulevard. The property is now occupied by low-rise residential buildings.

The $95 million, 363,863-square-foot residential high-rise was designed by Dallas architect GFF and is planned to start next summer. The building would open in 2025.

The planned project is across Enid Street from where Houston-based developer Hanover Co. is building a 21-story apartment tower on the site of the Turtle Creek Gardens condominiums at 2525 Turtle Creek Blvd.

Two other developers — California-based Nexus Development Corp. and Colorado-based UDR Inc. — have high-rise residential projects in the works on the same block.

Builder Toll Brothers developed its 22-story Aster apartment tower on a nearby Oak Lawn block on Congress Avenue."

Tucy wrote:

LongonBigD wrote:Another DMN story about yet another new proposed high-rise MF development in that sliver between Oak Lawn Ave and Turtle Creek (north of Maple, south of Cedar Springs). This area is talked about at a hot spot of development, but all I've seen (besides Toll Brothers) is all hat and no cattle. I suppose the key phrase here is in the title, "in the works." Hard to get excited.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realest ... 5818956568

"The area just north of Uptown is seeing a building boom with a handful of new towers in the works.

Now a Chicago property firm, FRC Realty Inc., has filed plans with the state for a 24-story apartment tower to be constructed just north of Turtle Creek on Brown Street just north of Turtle Creek Boulevard. The property is now occupied by low-rise residential buildings.

The $95 million, 363,863-square-foot residential high-rise was designed by Dallas architect GFF and is planned to start next summer. The building would open in 2025.

The planned project is across Enid Street from where Houston-based developer Hanover Co. is building a 21-story apartment tower on the site of the Turtle Creek Gardens condominiums at 2525 Turtle Creek Blvd.

Two other developers — California-based Nexus Development Corp. and Colorado-based UDR Inc. — have high-rise residential projects in the works on the same block.

Builder Toll Brothers developed its 22-story Aster apartment tower on a nearby Oak Lawn block on Congress Avenue."

Is there really a "building boom", or is it more of a "proposal boom"?

kingpin wrote:https://candysdirt.com/2019/11/12/oak-lawn-committee-sees-dream-hotel-spark-another-hotel/

5205-4217 Herschel; Herschel Senior Living

The first thing the Oak Lawn Committee asked of the developer was to return with “a legible presentation.” Amen. I’ve bagged on these guys for their terrible presentations since their first trip to the OLC. It’s still not going to win any presentation awards, but there’s more there.

The above graphic shows their zoned height (240-feet) and what they’re proposing (142-feet + 15-feet for elevator housing and mechanicals). They’re also showing it in reference to nearby buildings – two stories plus mechanicals taller than the Park Highlander condos – so not outlandish. They do want to increase FAR from 4.5 to 5.5 of buildable square footage for each square footage of lot. That increase results in two additional floors – not dire. Some protesters say the height will “stick out like a sore thumb”. Not really. And in theory, it could stick out 10 more stories.

They’re proposing 140 units total with 64 parking spaces, all but a dozen underground. That might seem like too few parking spaces, but code only requires 42 for senior living and besides, do you want people in “memory care” to be driving anyway?

I’ve never had a problem with this project’s intentions. The issues arose from their slapdash presentation causing them to revisit the Oak Lawn Committee multiple times. Will this iteration be enough? We’ll see.

Davidson Bogel Real Estate’s Jake Milner said potential buyers are already sizing up the property.
“We have been approached from a few different groups that would convert the building to multifamily and are exploring options,” Milner said in an email.

lakewoodhobo wrote:Historic Dallas Braniff building hits the market again
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Davidson Bogel Real Estate’s Jake Milner said potential buyers are already sizing up the property.
“We have been approached from a few different groups that would convert the building to multifamily and are exploring options,” Milner said in an email.

I suppose it's only a matter of time before the same happens to the Cabana building. We'll see.

Matt777 wrote:I probably missed this, but what's going on with the Capital One at Lemmon and Douglas? It's closed and fenced off. Looks like it will be demolished. It could be for renovation, but it's less than 10 years old.

LongonBigD wrote:

Matt777 wrote:I probably missed this, but what's going on with the Capital One at Lemmon and Douglas? It's closed and fenced off. Looks like it will be demolished. It could be for renovation, but it's less than 10 years old.

That fence has been up for weeks. I thought the same, too new to demo, prime location, etc. Typically these bank buildings are rebranded to another bank. I think these days, banks are shedding physical branches so maybe not. Perhaps someone wants to upgrade their branch size or location.

Bottom line, I am thinking they put the fence up so people don’t park there who are eating at Gloria’s or Eggsellent Cafe. That could be a huge liability for the owner for damages. I’m sure Capital One had a long term lease and paid a nice breakage fee. The owner is probably taking their sweet time to consider all options.

R1070 wrote:A similar fence and zoning change sign has been up at the old Long John Silvers building by the Taco Bell.

Mia's old building was demolished this week.

uptown74 wrote:The site next to Taco Bell is supposed to be a Salad N Go.

Well, that would be better than the title-loan-and-broke that it used to be

Cbdallas wrote:I just wish one developer would put together a Mid-rise Apartment development between Oak Lawn and the Tollway somewhere along Lemmon. The land usage density along there is abysmal.

R1070 wrote:It's a pedestrian nightmare.

Srayldtx wrote:Doesn’t HEB own that block? Are they giving up on a store in that location?

Srayldtx wrote:Doesn’t HEB own that block? Are they giving up on a store in that location?