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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby Dtown214 » 07 Aug 2019 18:30

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Yeah, I would prefer the taller version. I am more concerned with the idea of burying more of the parking. Give them the height if they put a few more levels of parking below grade so the buildings butt is less of a huge badonkadonk.

LoL :D and yes, I do concur.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby R1070 » 07 Aug 2019 19:25

The shorter version looks worse. I thought OLC was concerned about the aesthetics?

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby Cbdallas » 08 Aug 2019 11:21

The Oak Lawn Committee is bordering anti-urban by restricting height. This is ridiculous.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby eburress » 08 Aug 2019 11:38

I wonder if the building's new C-shape will better hide the garage. I also prefer the taller design but the building's opponents did have a point about the ugliness of the building's rear. The view from Lemmon wasn't very appealing.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 08 Aug 2019 12:19

It wouldn't matter if everything headed down Lemmon was also density-driven but instead, we have short suburban strip centers not flipping over into dense development so it will be drive-thru, drive-thru, then bam massive 8 story parking garage. The sad thing is that people would rather maintain the lower use because its the norm than promote a denser Lemmon from Oak Lawn to DNT. This project can set the tone to promote a densifying Lemmon but a fight to keep a suburban mindset is largely maintained.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby Matt777 » 08 Aug 2019 13:42

Cbdallas wrote:The Oak Lawn Committee is bordering anti-urban by restricting height. This is ridiculous.


They've really become a terrible organization. They fight attractive, pedestrian friendly urban developments and approve drive-thru restaurants, strip centers, and surface parking.

They are obsolete.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby lakewoodhobo » 08 Aug 2019 14:12



This article had some insight into the dysfunction going on within that organization.

Maybe the problem with the Oak Lawn Committee is that 1) it doesn't represent enough regular folks and 2) PD193 has just evolved in a way that it no longer makes sense to speak with one voice.

Then again, I don't have a dog in this fight so I'll keep watching from my seat in Oak Cliff.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby R1070 » 08 Aug 2019 15:42

PD193 needs to be broken up. Some areas need higher zoning than others.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 08 Aug 2019 16:12

I think many people forget how big the Oak Lawn district is...
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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby OrangeMike » 30 Aug 2019 13:13

Centurion American has purchased what was most recently Parkgate senior apartments.

Braniff's landmark Dallas hostess college sells to developer who brought Statler back to life
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... k-to-life/

If this already has a separate thread, I could not find it. The search function on this forum is not good.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby Cbdallas » 30 Aug 2019 13:49

I will be very interested to see what they come up with for this redo. I could only come up with turning it into a boutique hotel with a flight themed style. Glad to see it will become something used.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 30 Aug 2019 15:45

Centurion certainly loves to buy landmarks and keep plenty of projects in the wings big and small.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby Matt777 » 30 Aug 2019 22:04

A Braniff themed boutique hotel with a museum, as well as dining and bars, would be incredible.

If they could secure the empty triangular lot next to it, then a "Braniff Residences" multifamily tower would be nice too.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby tamtagon » 31 Aug 2019 07:40

A seven star hotel catering to people flying to town on a private jet to buy a fancy car from the string of fancy car places on Lemmon Avenue would be great.

Park your jet at the airport hotel, ride around town for a couple days in your brand new $300,000 car, go shopping, eat out, jet away to your next destination, that's the ticket.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 31 Aug 2019 10:23

The parking is very limited on-site so any function would have to find a solution for that problem. It's one thing to be in a walkable area like the CBD or even let's say Cedar Springs nearby but this spot is separated from a lot so having enough parking for a hotel or residential operation will be needed. Doing a Hotel is easier since hotels can use valet and make deals to park somewhere else nearby. Residents expect to park in secure parking at their building.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby uptown74 » 08 Sep 2019 16:34

Does anyone know if the Cedar Springs street re-development is still on track to start this month?

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 09 Sep 2019 09:50

Well, they have torn up Cedar Springs Rd from Lemmon to DNT in various spots so is that a part of the total larger project?

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby OrangeMike » 09 Sep 2019 12:54

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Well, they have torn up Cedar Springs Rd from Lemmon to DNT in various spots so is that a part of the total larger project?


Cedar Springs and Lemmon are parallel through the neighborhood. Do you mean from Wycliff to DNT? There were several sections of pavement removed in that area for what looked like water or sewer maintenance or upgrades.

The City of Dallas website shows a project that sounds like the street and sidewalk improvements for the strip, but it has a 2021 design deadline and 2022-24 construction timeline.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 09 Sep 2019 13:02

Yes, I goofed I meant Inwood to DNT. I go to the LA Fitness on Inwood and used to drive down Cedar Springs from the strip and now I am using Maple since traffic was narrowed between Hundall and Kings Rd if I try to be even more accurate.


Also word on the street is that the pride parade will head back to the gayborhood if they can fit it into the construction schedule. Overall they weren't happy with the parade being just inside Fair Park.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby LuvBigD » 09 Sep 2019 14:50

So, are they going to have another coming out party???

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 09 Sep 2019 15:56

The pride festival will stay at Fair Park most likely cause they want to grow that into a larger event on a bigger scale than it has been previously. The parade may still wander depending on other factors. The reality is Cedar Springs is too small for the crowd and size of participation. The security required to use a public street can get quite expensive based on the number of cops required to secure things safely so much so even the State Fair moved their opening day parade inside Fair Park to save money.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby vman » 09 Sep 2019 16:05

cowboyeagle05 wrote:The pride festival will stay at Fair Park most likely cause they want to grow that into a larger event on a bigger scale than it has been previously. The parade may still wander depending on other factors. The reality is Cedar Springs is too small for the crowd and size of participation. The security required to use a public street can get quite expensive based on the number of cops required to secure things safely so much so even the State Fair moved their opening day parade inside Fair Park to save money.


I've never attended the Pride Festival, but did attend the Pride Parade at Fair Park this year out of curiosity...about the location. I think the Parade and the Festival should be held on the same day at Fair Park. Have the parade earlier and start the Festival immediately after, keeping the crowd at Fair Park all day. Why on Earth is the parade on a Sunday anyway? Have both events on a Saturday and let the gay bars have the bar crowd all day Sunday.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby Tnexster » 09 Sep 2019 16:32

cowboyeagle05 wrote:The pride festival will stay at Fair Park most likely cause they want to grow that into a larger event on a bigger scale than it has been previously. The parade may still wander depending on other factors. The reality is Cedar Springs is too small for the crowd and size of participation. The security required to use a public street can get quite expensive based on the number of cops required to secure things safely so much so even the State Fair moved their opening day parade inside Fair Park to save money.


If CS is too small for Pride how is it not too small for the giant Halloween festival?

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 09 Sep 2019 17:11

That's not a true parade they just let people walk around in the street and not as many participate. The Pride parade has so many floats, walking groups etc it goes for hours and needs plenty of staging area to line up all the groups and floats. Then add in the number of people on the sidelines that squeeze into narrow sidewalks which is on a scale that could start to compete with bigger pardaes in other cities. The Halloween Block party they have a small narrow runway they mark off in the center of the street and people walk around back and forth between the bars drunk and in costumes. It's very busy yes but not nearly as bad.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby uptown74 » 09 Sep 2019 17:59

OrangeMike wrote:
cowboyeagle05 wrote:Well, they have torn up Cedar Springs Rd from Lemmon to DNT in various spots so is that a part of the total larger project?


Cedar Springs and Lemmon are parallel through the neighborhood. Do you mean from Wycliff to DNT? There were several sections of pavement removed in that area for what looked like water or sewer maintenance or upgrades.

The City of Dallas website shows a project that sounds like the street and sidewalk improvements for the strip, but it has a 2021 design deadline and 2022-24 construction timeline.

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Wow... That does look like the project I was referring to.. I'm pretty certain in the articles announcing the rainbow crosswalks/ entryways, they mentioned a Sept 2019 start date. So this means it may have gotten pushed back almost 3 years!

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 10 Sep 2019 09:25

https://dallasvoice.com/dallas-city-cou ... ings-road/

...Luna said that once construction begins — current projected start date is September — the crosswalks will be the last thing done. The project is expected to take six months.

Crosswalks will be the last thing done. That’s so that other construction doesn’t destroy the newly painted walkways and give utility companies time to get any expected underground work done first...

...Bidding on the contract has closed. Four contractors submitted bids and Gibson & Associates of Balch Springs won, coming in at the amount allocated for the project. The highest bid would have cost more than $2 million.

Gibson is expected to begin work in September and complete construction in March 2020.

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby uptown74 » 16 Sep 2019 17:33

Noticed a fence around the old Cedar Grove Restaurant in the Ilume building on Cedar Springs.
They have demolished the add-on that covered the patio in the front.
Any word on what is going on there?

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Re: Oak Lawn

Postby OrangeMike » 18 Sep 2019 07:31

Historic Braniff Airways hostess dorm on the tollway will be restored for retail and office space

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ice-space/

Bar and restaurant on the first floor, office space above.


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