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DTD: The National/Thompson Hotel (1401 Elm)

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby Jay9398 » 11 Aug 2020 16:24

Tucy wrote:I'm curious about this observation deck as well. Both historically and whether it is planned to be reopened.

Was it an open-air deck on the roof of the building? Where was it exactly?

Earlier in the renovation process, I think it was mentioned that it would be coming back. The website for the project does not seem to mention an observation deck. It does say there will be a restaurant on the 49th floor. I find elsewhere some mentions that the observation deck was on the 50th floor.

Which triggers another question... How many floors does this building actually have? Steve Brown likes to call it 52 stories, which, given Steve Brown's proclivities, is probably an exaggeration. The building's website says it is 51 stories. If they are having a restaurant on 49 and (perhaps) an observation deck on 50... I wonder what is on 51. And where is Steve Brown's 52nd floor? ;-)

Oh, and Merriman (the renovation architects) says it's 50 stories.


The last I read the observation deck on the top floor was still in the plans and was going to be open to the public. I guess we'll have to wait and see. It's never been open air as far as I know. I used to work across the street on 46 and there's no way that what I could see was open air.

The amenity deck on the pedestal (approx floor 9) is open air and is looking really, really good.

I wonder if the discrepancy between the 50/51 floor reporting depends on how the 2 story lobby is counted? Like most I would take anything Brown reports with a grain of salt.

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 12 Aug 2020 09:36

It was a part of the incentive package. The developer to get public money had to reopen the observation deck to the public. The most recent discussion of this feature was in news articles when it was still to be The Drever but who knows if this is still a solid plan. Even Reunion who is also required to have a public amenity deck skirts these rules by just claiming its under construction or closed for cleaning for months at a time. The city rarely cares about enforcing it.

When completed, The Drever’s eight-story tower base will be transformed into a dynamic area with more than 27,000-square-feet of ground floor retail space, 44,000-square-feet of office space, the hotel and residents’ lobbies and a grand ballroom. A wraparound amenity deck with sight lines to surrounding buildings, including a resort quality pool, a spa, a health and fitness room, dog-park and outdoor recreation spaces will be on the 9th floor at the top of the base element. The 50th floor will feature an open-to-the-public observation deck.


The first one is obviously an old pic before they started demo inside. The second is one of the renderings MAA produced as part of the original batch of renderings for the redo. I personally have no idea what the plan is with the observation deck.
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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby vman » 02 Oct 2020 11:56

I was downtown this weekend and drove down Elm Street right past this building. It's looking really good. But there are several white, what I believe to be planters, lining the front of the building. I swear they look just like oversized toilets. Hopefully, they'll look less so when the building is done.

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 02 Oct 2020 14:24

I think they are planters so once they add in greenery they will look better I hope. I saw them in a photo over on the Downtown Residents Council Facebook page.
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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby Jay9398 » 05 Oct 2020 15:23

They are planters. They do look like giant urinals. Renderings show tall thin Italian Cypress plantings, but do not show homeless people peeing in them, which I assume is inevitable.

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 06 Oct 2020 09:29

Renderings also show fully grown trees in front of every construction project and people with Neiman Marcus bags and a stroller driving a Bently. Renderings are a sham but people eat it up and so do council members.
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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby Redblock » 10 Oct 2020 15:06

An article in the October issue of D Magazine. So far I have only seen white lights. I assume are LEDs and can be many different colors.

https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/ ... lights-up/

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby Tucy » 21 Oct 2020 10:30

Very exciting news! The Thompson Hotel will open November 14. Honestly thought I'd never see the day.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -national/

It looks beautiful!

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby R1070 » 21 Oct 2020 10:40

So impressive.

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby DPatel304 » 13 Nov 2020 15:26

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Catbird lounge at the Thompson is opening November 27th (Credit goes to Valerie Chaykovska from the Downtown Residents Council Facebook group)

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby CTroyMathis » 13 Nov 2020 17:58

I saw those pictures there, too! The place looks very good. And, of course, the views.

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 13 Nov 2020 19:02

Any pics of the lobby/ entrance from the outside

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

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Re: DD: 1401 Elm and Thompson Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 14 Nov 2020 11:32

Those wide sidewalks even with the integrated parking are so much nicer than the previous wide roadways perfect for drag racing. Narrow those streets build out those long promenades of walking space.
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Re: DTD: The National/Thompson Hotel (1401 Elm)

Postby DPatel304 » 16 Nov 2020 14:31

The hotel’s restaurants are Nine, a breakfast and lunch spot on the ninth floor, and Catbird, a sexy restaurant and lounge on the 10th floor.

Nine is expected to open Nov. 16, with Catbird to follow on Nov. 27.

https://www.dallasnews.com/food/restaur ... wn-dallas/

Here's an article about Nine and Catbird, opening soon. Both of these places look fantastic, and I'm so glad that this building is nearing completion and it's even better that the newly completed (and hugely successful) Discovery District is only a couple blocks away.

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Re: DTD: The National/Thompson Hotel (1401 Elm)

Postby itsjrd1964 » 17 Nov 2020 15:26

Hope they can somehow keep the pigeons off those 2nd floor exterior ledges. They really left marks-on-the-world down there in the past.


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