cowboyeagle05 wrote:The problem with that news is that Amazon wants something today not 10 years from now. Any promise of mass transit infusion of cash from the government tends to be very dependent on a lengthy process. It's always easy for any state and city politicians to promise "We will build trains everywhere, We will find the funds!" it's quite another to already have those plans in motion. Dallas also promised a park in the Trinity River Floodway back in 1998 when a bond election supposedly funded the project. We see how that turned out... Amazon will be more interested in what a city and state have already funded as a real indicator of future transit funding. Headline grandstanding is worth wishes and butterfly kisses and not much else.
tamtagon wrote:sure, but it does show willingness on the part of the State, in addition to city and county.
I know DFW always ranks high on traffic congestion issues, but The Atl is most definitely soul-grindingly worse. Many times, I wondered what sort of identifier and correlation exists between high ranking congestion and highways criss-crossing all over the place --- specifically why this is not labeled in a place like DFW with an over abundance of highways as compared to Atlanta with the same highways its had from 20 years.
Anyway, the promise of additional rail service is not entirely silly since HQ2 has a ten year build. In the case of Dallas, D2 can be tweaked based on a corporate decision.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:... Atlanta has lots of great things to offer. Is it better than Dallas in terms of what Amazon is looking for? IDK, but I will say this. The city of Atlanta has had some nice relocations within the city, Mercedes,GE And Honeywell in their midtown area.
whi5125 wrote:It doesnt take more than 10 minutes to walk Victory park.
eburress wrote:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Victory is a quick walk and with it being one of the few areas with decently-sized sidewalks, it's easy to get around on foot.
Kelley USA wrote:I wonder why Harwood wouldn't join in on the Urban Village?? They have several lots fairly close to the AAC. Perhaps they're content doing their own thing!
eburress wrote:I don't think I've seen this mentioned before (sorry if someone's already posted) but this outlines Victory's proposal for an "Amazon Urban Village."
The buildings seem kinda spread out but I like how this incorporates a number of the projects everyone has talked about for years (Victory Tower, Perot's "signature" tower, etc).
http://dallas.towers.net/2017/10/04/vic ... mazon-hq2/
Cord1936 wrote:Whether they go with it or not who knows but at the very least it should receive serious consideration.
The many commitments signees want Amazon to agree to include creating opportunities to hire, train, and mentor workers from underrepresented backgrounds, supporting workers’ rights to organize, agreeing to pay all property taxes, and setting aside investments that will help build and maintain local public transportation, as well as supporting affordable housing in the city.
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:NJ offering up to 7 billion for Amazon HQ2 in incentives, Atlanta 5B. At what point is it not even worth it for cities, Dallas in particular, to not even try to lure a big fish if they have to forego so many tax dollars.?
Food for thought..
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:NJ offering up to 7 billion for Amazon HQ2 in incentives, Atlanta 5B. At what point is it not even worth it for cities, Dallas in particular, to not even try to lure a big fish if they have to forego so many tax dollars.?
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-h ... ve-2017-10
Vs.
https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/12/san- ... our-style/
Food for thought..
Tucy wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:NJ offering up to 7 billion for Amazon HQ2 in incentives, Atlanta 5B. At what point is it not even worth it for cities, Dallas in particular, to not even try to lure a big fish if they have to forego so many tax dollars.?
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-h ... ve-2017-10
Vs.
https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/12/san- ... our-style/
Food for thought..
Where is the $5 Billion Atlanta offer? I don't see anything about it in either of the linked articles and cannot find any evidence of it any where
Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Tucy wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:NJ offering up to 7 billion for Amazon HQ2 in incentives, Atlanta 5B. At what point is it not even worth it for cities, Dallas in particular, to not even try to lure a big fish if they have to forego so many tax dollars.?
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-h ... ve-2017-10
Vs.
https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/12/san- ... our-style/
Food for thought..
Where is the $5 Billion Atlanta offer? I don't see anything about it in either of the linked articles and cannot find any evidence of it any where
Good point. I saw it somewhere. I'll have to look again.
Tucy wrote:Tivo_Kenevil wrote:Tucy wrote:
Where is the $5 Billion Atlanta offer? I don't see anything about it in either of the linked articles and cannot find any evidence of it any where
Good point. I saw it somewhere. I'll have to look again.
I think you probably misread. I found a number of articles that discussed Atlanta in conjunction with a $5 Billion investment. But the $5 Billion investment was Amazon's investment.
Dallas-based broker could help woo Amazon HQ2 to Central Texas farm land
The Sandow Lakes Ranch is more than 33,000 acres about an hour's drive from downtown Austin with vast undeveloped tracts of farm land and more than a dozen lakes — plus a sizable industrial complex anchored by a coal plant that will close soon.
Dallas broker Bernard "Bernie" Uechtritz has been marketing the ranch to would-be buyers for the last year, and says he believes the ranch has a lot of what Amazon is looking for in an HQ2 site.
muncien wrote:Here is one way to get yourself out of consideration...
https://venturebeat.com/2017/10/17/in-an-open-letter-to-jeff-bezos-civic-groups-call-for-a-more-transparent-amazon-hq2-selection/
[/quote]In 2014 the city passed one of the nation's first $15 an hour minimum wage laws. This was followed by onerous employee scheduling regulations, restrictions on running criminal background checks, and an infamous (and probably illegal) income tax.
And these are just the policies that have passed. Also in the works is a so-called Amazon tax, which would levy a yearly $100-per-employee levy on large companies. To draft this tax, Seattle hired John Burbank, director of the Economic Opportunity Institute, who once called Amazon a "sociopathic roommate" that the city was better off without.
eburress wrote:Agreed, and given how Atlanta seems to address many of their other requirements, the $5B could enough to win HQ2 for them. As I've said, hopefully Texas is also willing to write a big check.
Hannibal Lecter wrote:eburress wrote:Agreed, and given how Atlanta seems to address many of their other requirements, the $5B could enough to win HQ2 for them. As I've said, hopefully Texas is also willing to write a big check.
Atlanta is still Hell on Earth. Horrible traffic. Wretched climate. Incredible racism. In a nutshell, there's an agreement that the blacks can do whatever they want with the city itself as long as they stay in it. I recently visited some relatives out there. They practically worship Trump, and keep Fox News on the TV virtually non-stop. Even my 11-year-old thought they were pathetic.
Hannibal Lecter wrote:eburress wrote:Agreed, and given how Atlanta seems to address many of their other requirements, the $5B could enough to win HQ2 for them. As I've said, hopefully Texas is also willing to write a big check.
Atlanta is still Hell on Earth. Horrible traffic. Wretched climate. Incredible racism. In a nutshell, there's an agreement that the blacks can do whatever they want with the city itself as long as they stay in it. I recently visited some relatives out there. They practically worship Trump, and keep Fox News on the TV virtually non-stop. Even my 11-year-old thought they were pathetic.
tamtagon wrote:....remember the one Frisco did>
Kelley USA wrote:It might be fun to post videos from other cities as we come across them... Here's one from the joint bid from Buffalo / Rochester that was just posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtHyguF1DUA
dfwcre8tive wrote:Latest analysis from a Seattle perspective:
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/a ... -heats-up/
dukemeredith wrote:dfwcre8tive wrote:Latest analysis from a Seattle perspective:
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/a ... -heats-up/
Spoiler: Dallas isn't mentioned once.
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