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West End 1.0

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby The_Overdog » 16 Oct 2019 09:19

Also it was dark, cave-like, rundown and always smelled bad in there.


The one in Plano smelled super bad too.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 18 Oct 2019 11:44

As long as it's not turned into another CoWorking office space...
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Re: West End 1.0

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 18 Oct 2019 14:35

cowboyeagle05 wrote:As long as it's not turned into another CoWorking office space...


I think it would make a cool restaurant and bar. It definitely needs better lighting. Hopefully a fresh new concept comes through. The area could use something like that. There's no bar in this area.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby muncien » 18 Oct 2019 14:59

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
cowboyeagle05 wrote:As long as it's not turned into another CoWorking office space...


I think it would make a cool restaurant and bar. It definitely needs better lighting. Hopefully a fresh new concept comes through. The area could use something like that. There's no bar in this area.


A brewery would be great... Imagine that future park as a beer garden.
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Re: West End 1.0

Postby exelone31 » 18 Oct 2019 16:12

Did the other brewery in the West End ultimately fall through? I thought there was supposed to be one that went up where the Joe's Crab Shack used to be.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 20 Oct 2019 15:02

I think the problem is the West End is still pricey per square foot compared to a real warehouse district like the Design District where most breweries have been locating in Dallas. A tasting room is one thing but a full-fledged brewery location needs some decent space if they hope to market it wide enough. At the end of the day, it would be cool to have a West End Brewery brand though similarly as successful as Deep Ellum Brewery.
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Re: West End 1.0

Postby Tnexster » 20 Nov 2019 15:06

ANCHORED BY HISTORY, INFUSED WITH INNOVATION

There’s a transformation taking place in the West End that's reshaping the critical anchor between downtown and Victory Park.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... state.html

John Zogg, a lifelong Dallas resident and managing director of Crescent Real Estate, has seen the West End through many incarnations. But this tranformation, he says, is different.

“Today, you see highly capitalized owners coming in and buying the assets. What they've done over the last three to five years is pour millions upon millions of dollars into those assets,” Zogg said.

“Over the last three years, there has been more capital spent in the West End than in the previous 30 years combined.”

There are new buildings, including The Luminary office building by Crescent Real Estate; and Factory Six03, the former West End Marketplace that Granite Properties reworked and reopened to tenants.

In addition, the West End is now home to the Dallas Holocaust and Human Rights Museum, Uber's Dallas office, the Dallas Innovation Alliance, Dallas Entrepreneur Center, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Texas' Innovation Lab, Sam’s Club’s technology division, and numerous tech and other startups. All are relatively new additions to the district.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby tamtagon » 20 Nov 2019 15:42

West End needs more residential!

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 20 Nov 2019 16:39

Now with Spaghetti Warehouse gone, there really needs to be another push for a brewery in the West End. This could be right building for it because it is way too big for one restaurant anyway.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby willyk » 20 Nov 2019 22:57

N Lamar Street is what is holding back the West End. That’s where the traffic counts are highest, but the scenery is mostly empty buildings, dead storefronts and surface lots. It looks derelict if you don’t know otherwise.

More curb appeal on Lamar would pull people on to Houston and Record. The frontages are much like the building that Punch Bowl Social took. We need big attractions like that on N Lamar. They would do we well there and they would light a spark in the West End.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby muncien » 21 Nov 2019 08:42

lakewoodhobo wrote:Now with Spaghetti Warehouse gone, there really needs to be another push for a brewery in the West End. This could be right building for it because it is way too big for one restaurant anyway.


No doubt! I know a year or so ago, Community was considering a move. I don't know if that idea is completely dead or if they are still considering it. I'd love to see a decent brewery in the West End, with a nice outdoor beer garden. This building would fit perfectly.
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Re: West End 1.0

Postby exelone31 » 21 Nov 2019 09:06

Hopefully the park project will get up and rolling in the next year or two as well. I think there's been a fairly decent track record of downtown parks spurring growth in the immediate vicinity. Even Belo Garden, whether intentionally or not, is a neighbor to the newly-remodeled Westin.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby R1070 » 21 Nov 2019 11:19

We need more housing in that area and more infill on surface lots.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby itsjrd1964 » 16 Dec 2019 22:43

The SpringHill Suites on Lamar has been acquired by NewcrestImage, the developer/owner of the AC Hotel/Residence Inn downtown and Hampton Inn & Suites downtown. NewcrestImage wants to renovate the 148 room hotel.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -operator/

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 17 Feb 2020 18:21

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I don't really know what was happening here, but perhaps the curb is being removed and it's being turned into more of a ramp (to match the ramp on the other side of the road)?

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 17 Feb 2020 18:42

Progress! The City of Dallas is installing an ADA accessible ramp and a new crosswalk to better connect the West End to Victory Park. Thank you to David Blewett, Dallas City Council D14 for advocating for this welcomed and much needed improvement.

https://www.facebook.com/DtownDallasInc ... 138143540/

Actually, it looks like my question has been answered already. I've biked through this alley once or twice, so I welcome this change. However, it seems strange given that there isn't really a cross walk here, so it's a bit unsafe to actually use this.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby lakewoodhobo » 17 Feb 2020 20:11

DPatel304 wrote:
Progress! The City of Dallas is installing an ADA accessible ramp and a new crosswalk to better connect the West End to Victory Park. Thank you to David Blewett, Dallas City Council D14 for advocating for this welcomed and much needed improvement.

https://www.facebook.com/DtownDallasInc ... 138143540/

Actually, it looks like my question has been answered already. I've biked through this alley once or twice, so I welcome this change. However, it seems strange given that there isn't really a cross walk here, so it's a bit unsafe to actually use this.


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Hopefully David Blewett's response was genuine and there's more than just a ramp, painting some stripes and removing the bollards.

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Re: West End 1.0

Postby DPatel304 » 17 Feb 2020 23:06

Interesting, I didn't see that comment earlier. I've always wondered if it was feasible to just shut down this small stretch of McKinney Ave (between Record and Lamar) to pedestrians only.


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