Uptown Dallas: Cedar Maple Plaza I,II & III (2301 Cedar Springs Rd.)

[PonyUp13]

That rendering shows exactly what’s wrong with that plan. Their “green space” is across from another plot of small “green space” which surrounds that massive hole the crescent had right there. Why doesn’t Crescent Court’s retail do well? No question it’s because Cedar Springs from lower Mac to the trail is a car oriented mess with no foot traffic outside 10pm - 2 am on weekends.

[Tivo_Kenevil]

Dallas a city that champions "urban lite" so you can still drive a fully loaded truck and park without consequences anywhere you want and tell yourself you are a modern urban millennial.

[cowboyeagle05]

The worst part of that statement of mine is those who are anti-urban redevelopment walkable, transit etc will misunderstand what I mean when it comes to my expectations of individual transportation and its role in urban Dallas redevelopment. We will all see what we want in my statement condemnation and validation depending on what side of the discussion we agree with.

[CTroyMathis]

The FAA knocked this one down to 289', which is not new news. But, I must've forgot a circularized case was still pending for 399'. Feedback was due a week ago from aviation parties.
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 7252&row=7
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/le ... =384565013

[homeworld1031tx]

Did this one ever start? A post earlier said the expected start date was Oct '18 but the DMN article noted that "Current leases at Cedar Maple Plaza run through 2020, so any new construction is still a ways off."

[eburress]

They're sure letting the maintenance of the existing buildings go, which is sad to see. Such a shame and such a waste.

[Matt777]

Hopefully they're rethinking the entire design as it is a step back in urbanity. Build out the original 1980s plan and scale it taller if needed. That plan blended in with the neighborhood and was pedestrian friendly. They could probably even squeeze out more rentable office space and retail space than their proposal. I don't see why this has to be so hard for today's Dallas developers.

[Kelley USA]

Couldn't really find the old thread for Maple Terrace, and didn't think it was worth starting a new one... so I'll post this here since it's same neighborhood and a block away. But Hines has purchased the Maple Terrace Apartments. Curious what that might mean. I know in the past new residential towers and I think there was even a rumor of Four Seasons looking to build a hotel here on the available land.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... developer/

[Tnexster]

^Agreed, good placement!

[homeworld1031tx]

Did the original thread topic project ever get underway? They did end up demolishing the French style buildings here, right?

[cowboyeagle05]

Did the original thread topic project ever get underway? They did end up demolishing the French style buildings here, right?

Not on that site nothing has started. I don't believe any move-outs have even been seen on the site.

[Tnexster]

Was supposed to start in October but maybe some of the other projects underway in Uptown have taken some of the momentum away from this one. Never know, maybe they did a redesign and will have something to show us soon.

[kingpin]

Was supposed to start in October but maybe some of the other projects underway in Uptown have taken some of the momentum away from this one. Never know, maybe they did a redesign and will have something to show us soon.

i found this on bisnow...

https://www.bisnow.com/dallas-ft-worth/news/office/uptown-dallas-is-like-studio-54-everyone-in-cre-wants-in-but-its-getting-crowded-101813

Granite Properties is a real-life example of this hold-and-develop strategy in Uptown. The company purchased three low-rise buildings in the Uptown area in 2011 and plans to transform the site into a top-tier office product within the next three years.

"It's currently called Cedar Maple Plaza," Granite Properties Senior Managing Director Will Hendrickson said. "We've already been through the entitlement process, and we are now in the process of winding down the current leases we have in place."

Once the leases run out, Granite will launch construction in the first quarter of 2021, creating a new office product with 17K SF for restaurant development.

[cowboyeagle05]

Ugh, redesign pleaseeeeeee.

[Tnexster]

Okay so they are a year away from groundbreaking, maybe something will change between now and then.

[cowboyeagle05]

Yeah, even the project on Field Street in Downtown with all those highrises is planned to start before this one.

[rasec33]

https://gff.com/view/23-springs/

[Tnexster]

Is this still going forward as planned?

[R1070]

I like the building, but the valet drive up in that location is odd and reduces the urbanity of this streetscape.

Also, isn’t there a 30 story apt bldg supposed to go up next to this? That will be a nice change to that area. If only we could get a better project on the former Old Warsaw land as well.

[rono3849]

23Springs.jpg

I've seen no evidence that this project is near breaking ground. With so many other buildings under construction, this one may sit on the shelf for awhile.

[homeworld1031tx]

Have the 'french style' low rise offices that are on this site been vacated yet?

[cowboyeagle05]

Last time I passed by two weeks ago it appeared as nothing has changed. Does someone else have more info?

[dallaz]

New Uptown tower will include restaurants and park space

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ark-space/

[Tucy]

New Uptown tower will include restaurants and park space

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... ark-space/

Here's Steve's headline almost exactly two years ago (about this same project); he does love any opportunity to use the phrase "booming Uptown district":

"Uptown Dallas office high-rise project will include park and restaurant buildings"

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... buildings/

By the way, apparently the building has gone from 28 stories down to 26 stories.

[R1070]

Instead of that park and other restaurant, I’d rather there be a hotel or residential building.

[clcrash19]

Is this the same thing as the 30 story tower or is that next door on the same site plan?

[cowboyeagle05]

Yeah they label it like its gonna be Klyde Warren but it will be a green space that security will run off people if they don't like what they are doing. They talk about it like they are gifting land to the city for a public park. I am all for more public spaces in our urban environment but it's not like people will use this lawn to walk their dog or have a picnic. It is a manicured lawn like every ranch home in the suburbs. Green but largely for show and never used. Is it better than a valet parking lot yes it is a valuable space for the office workers nope.

[I45Tex]

Is this the same thing as the 30 story tower or is that next door on the same site plan?

That's 2401 McKinney (Trammell Crow with Pickard Chilton designing).

But GFF is also the designer of 2500 Cedar Springs upcoming for the Ryan Companies.

And behind that is the planned Quadrangle redevelopment.

[R1070]

There’s a 30 floor apt building planned close by next to uchi.

[eburress]

Yep! Assuming economic forces don't undermine it, this immediate area is about to get a lot more vertical!

[Tnexster]

Why did they shrink it to 26 from 28?