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Oak Cliff apartment project will bring affordable units
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Builders have broken ground on a project that’s expected to set the tone for development in a North Oak Cliff district.

Dallas’ Mintwood Real Estate is teaming up with New York-based property investor MSquared to build the 219-unit apartment development on Colorado Boulevard at Interstate 35E.

The six-story apartment community will have a postcard view of the skyline across the Trinity River.

The project is the first of what’s expected to be a series of developments on the south bank of the river across from downtown.

tamtagon wrote:Is oak cliff still dry?

tamtagon wrote:Is oak cliff still dry?

lakewoodhobo wrote:

tamtagon wrote:Is oak cliff still dry?

Beer and wine since 2012. Liquor stores are still prohibited and it may take a Texas constitutional amendment to allow them. However, since the city of Cockrell Hill began to allow liquor stores several years ago, you don’t need to cross the river for a handle of Tito’s anymore.

Re: Target, this is an absolute game changer. Whoever at TXDOT designed the new mile-long exit to Illinois Ave from I-35 southbound must’ve had some idea that Wynnewood Village would eventually become a traffic magnet.

No doubt Target will attract other tenants, so this combined with the deck park is a massive success story for the central Oak Cliff area.

tamtagon wrote:I like the name, Wynnewood village.

Tnexster wrote:I would think this would do well here. Glad to see it.

Brixmor Property Group, a publicly traded REIT, bought the 1940s-era shopping center about 15 years ago. In 2018, citing research indicating $781 million in unmet consumer demand in North Oak Cliff, it announced plans to invest about $30 million to renovate Wynnewood Village Shopping Center. Since then, L.A. Fitness and Five Below have taken up residence.

dallaz wrote:

Tnexster wrote:I would think this would do well here. Glad to see it.

I think it will do well too

https://therealdeal.com/texas/2023/03/0 ... rn-dallas/

Brixmor Property Group, a publicly traded REIT, bought the 1940s-era shopping center about 15 years ago. In 2018, citing research indicating $781 million in unmet consumer demand in North Oak Cliff, it announced plans to invest about $30 million to renovate Wynnewood Village Shopping Center. Since then, L.A. Fitness and Five Below have taken up residence.

LongonBigD wrote:I am glad to see all the improvements to Wynnewood Village. I am really glad to see Target part of it. Just wondering why it would take so long to build. Those buildings are tilt-up panels and a flat roof.

MC_ScattCat wrote:Are they going to demo everything on the lot and rebuild or just renovate the existing buildings? I'm also curious how this will impact Cox Market.

In the meeting, West was told the Lake Cliff store is next in line behind the Central Market being built on McKinney Avenue. That project has been repeatedly stalled due to the pandemic and recent rising costs of construction, and is now on hold due to financing that makes the project “not doable.”

The land is zoned as a WMU-5 (walkable mixed-use, five stories.) Current plans for the grocery store building show a one story parking garage, a second story Central Market, and three stories of apartment housing above the grocery store.

The value concept that’s focused on produce, meat and seafood, leverages H-E-B’s $38 billion a year grocery business to offer low prices, while it includes amenities that H-E-B is known for such as an in-store bakery that makes tortillas daily and butchers cutting and packing fresh meat in the store.

Joe V’s Smart Shop will open in southern Dallas at 4101 W. Wheatland Road in late summer 2024. H-E-B purchased the 58,940-square-foot building in January 2022. It was originally built for Albertsons in 1985 and closed in 2004.

A second Joe V’s will open in spring 2025 in east Dallas at 5204 S. Buckner Boulevard on the southwest corner of the intersection with Samuell Boulevard. H-E-B is building that store on 11 acres it purchased in late 2014.

“Joe V’s stores were created for neighborhoods that are densely populated but aren’t growing,” Orsak said. “That’s very different from any other retailer, but we can make it work. For an H-E-B store, we need a lot of growth in population.”

dallaz wrote:There’s also a new multifamily project in the works on the corner of Bishop and Sunset Aves (seen it during CPC meeting online). New development is creeping closer to the Jefferson Blvd commercial area. It’s right behind that new apartment building on 10th and Bishop. Once the city did a complete streets redo on Bishop to Jefferson, I knew that area would really pop with new development. It’s seems like we’ll have continuous walkable development from Bishop Arts to Jefferson before you know it. I’m still waiting on them to complete Phase two of the Bishop Arts Exxir development tho. I wonder what’s up with that?

Black dot is the location behind the new grey apt building

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Google Street view

https://maps.app.goo.gl/ksG13SKtGYyAV8fy7?g_st=ic

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Yeah property owners in the Jefferson Blvd area are looking to attract Bishop Arts type tenants aka not hispanic businesses that have existed there for the last few decades but hipster/boutique commercial retail/restaurant businesses. The owners are doing what we did in the 80's to try to get high rents with old properties. Super modernize the architecture of existing buildings and try to rent for Uptown prices. Removing all historical architecture character to sell to a new class of high rent paying tenants that might jump to the Bishop Arts/Jefferson Blvd market from places like Lakewood, Oak Lawn, Uptown, Knox Henderson, even Henderson Ave or Lower Greenville. I am not in love with most of the "modernization" styles they are doing as they feel cheap imitators compared to actual modern architecture.

I wonder if Jefferson Blvd will end up exploding like Deep Ellum and end up with a sizable bar/night life in the next decade or will it stabilize around other business types rather than just repeat chain restaurants/clubs from out of town companies like what has happened with Deep Ellum.

Both Deep Ellum and Jefferson Blvd have good bones of walkability but both have different surroundings affecting their new development. Both have sizable new apartment development but Deep Ellum is kinda boxed in with warehouses, a highway, Major hospital and DART tracks. While Bishop Arts actually has single family neighborhoods that will affect its ability to shift towards nightlife. East Dallas neighborhoods were finally able to wrangle Greenville Ave in many ways so that may be more of the likely outcome on Jefferson Blvd where the city might step in when you have whole neighborhoods pushing for parking restrictions, limiting business types and discouraging late night permits.

MC_ScattCat wrote:I know they are working on extending the Jefferson Ave. redo that completed a few years ago further west and from all indications the streetcar will be extended to Zang & Davis.

Matt777 wrote:A few dining establishments coming soon to Oak Cliff, based off of retail leasing plans posted online:

WaBa Grill:
-Asian healthy grilled meat plate/bowl chain from AZ/CA (https://www.wabagrill.com/)
-This will be the first DFW location
-Opening January or February at 2222 Fort Worth Avenue (24 Hour Fitness retail plaza)
-Press Article: https://whatnowdfw.com/fort-worth-to-we ... arly-2024/
-Plaza leasing plan: https://www.weitzmangroup.com/files/pro ... 096549.pdf

The Wee Chippy:
-Los Angeles based fish & chips restaurant just starting national expansion (http://www.weechippy.com)
-There is currently only one location in Venice, CA. Franchise agreements have been signed for national expansion.
-Opening date N/A, Location is the refurbished retail plaza at NW corner of Fort Worth Ave and Jacqueline Drive (formerly slated for new build Starbucks)
-Plaza leasing plan: https://theretailconnection.net/wp-cont ... .14.23.pdf

Fatburger:
-Los Angeles based burger chain (http://www.fatburger.com)
-There are already several DFW location, but this should be the first Dallas proper location
-Opening date N/A, Location is the refurbished retail plaza at NW corner of Fort Worth Ave and Jacqueline Drive (formerly slated for new build Starbucks)
-Plaza leasing plan: https://theretailconnection.net/wp-cont ... .14.23.pdf

As I predicted, the refurbished retail plaza mentioned above that was originally going to be demolished for a Starbucks was spared because Starbucks was able to secure a location in the new Sprouts retail plaza going in at FW Avenue and Hampton:

Starbucks:
-Going in at new Sprouts development at 1350 N Hampton (http://www.starbucks.com)
-Looks like it's big enough to accommodate both indoor and drive thru
-Opening date N/A, we should be able to estimate once the Chinese buffet and Elrod's are demolished
-Plaza leasing plan: https://vistapropertyco.com/wp-content/ ... Plan-2.pdf

Nothing Bundt Cakes:
-Going in at new Sprouts development at 1350 N Hampton (http://www.nothingbundtcakes.com)
-Listed as "lease pending" and will take up one of 3 open retail spots on the south side of the new Sprouts
-Opening date N/A, we should be able to estimate once the Chinese buffet and Elrod's are demolished
-Plaza leasing plan: https://vistapropertyco.com/wp-content/ ... Plan-2.pdf



RETAIL coming to Oak Cliff:

Pet Supplies Plus:
-Going into the retail plaza at 412 S Hampton, across from Tom Thumb
-This plaza is currently being refurbished, and it seems most of the tenants are being booted. There are several availabilities. Rent A Center is still operating but the space is available to lease. A new primary care clinic chain called Suvida has just opened.
-Plaza leasing plan: https://shopcompanies.com/sites/default ... 1704830656

Jowa:
-Korean clothing designer, now open at 402 W 8th in Bishop Arts (http://www.thejowa.com)
-This is the designer's only location

There are probably many more. This is just a few I've found. Feel free to add more if you know any and want to promote the business coming to our area!

MC_ScattCat wrote:That's a lot of work to do if sprouts is going to open by the end of the year as they claim.

Matt777 wrote:

MC_ScattCat wrote:That's a lot of work to do if sprouts is going to open by the end of the year as they claim.

It sure is. I'm really hoping they achieve that goal because I can't wait to stick it to the Tom Thumb on Hampton and their outrageously inflated prices. They know the customer base has no other similar options nearby.
The Shop Companies leasing page for Hampton Village across the street mentions that it is the "#1 Tom Thumb in DFW for # of visits" which is insane considering how small and cramped it is, but I believe it based on the always crowded parking lot. I've starting shopping very early or very late to avoid the chaos there.

I've mentioned before that another leasing document for a shopping center across from the Walmart at 30/Cockrell Hill mentions that specific Walmart is the #1 performing Walmart in Texas. Just further proof that Oak Cliff is very underserved from a retail perspective.

Matt777 wrote:I think this was discussed here or on the Discord channel before, but there is also some planned development at The Canyon at Westmoreland and I-30.

Appearing on the leasing plan are Texas Roadhouse, Denny's, Starbucks, a new Hilton hotel (+/- 100 rooms), a new garden style multifamily development, and some additional unleased spaces:
https://dbarealestate.com/wp-content/up ... -Cliff.pdf

I haven't noticed any construction on these sites yet but I will check closer the next time I pass by the area.

If this happens, Starbucks will have a location at 3 I-30 exits in a row, Hampton, Westmoreland, and Cockrell Hill.

Matt777 wrote:A few dining establishments coming soon to Oak Cliff, based off of retail leasing plans posted online:

RETAIL coming to Oak Cliff:

Pet Supplies Plus:
-Going into the retail plaza at 412 S Hampton, across from Tom Thumb
-This plaza is currently being refurbished, and it seems most of the tenants are being booted. There are several availabilities. Rent A Center is still operating but the space is available to lease. A new primary care clinic chain called Suvida has just opened.
-Plaza leasing plan: https://shopcompanies.com/sites/default ... 1704830656

Matt777 wrote:

Matt777 wrote:A few dining establishments coming soon to Oak Cliff, based off of retail leasing plans posted online:

RETAIL coming to Oak Cliff:

Pet Supplies Plus:
-Going into the retail plaza at 412 S Hampton, across from Tom Thumb
-This plaza is currently being refurbished, and it seems most of the tenants are being booted. There are several availabilities. Rent A Center is still operating but the space is available to lease. A new primary care clinic chain called Suvida has just opened.
-Plaza leasing plan: https://shopcompanies.com/sites/default ... 1704830656

Matt777 wrote:

Matt777 wrote:

Matt777 wrote:A few dining establishments coming soon to Oak Cliff, based off of retail leasing plans posted online:

RETAIL coming to Oak Cliff:

Pet Supplies Plus:
-Going into the retail plaza at 412 S Hampton, across from Tom Thumb
-This plaza is currently being refurbished, and it seems most of the tenants are being booted. There are several availabilities. Rent A Center is still operating but the space is available to lease. A new primary care clinic chain called Suvida has just opened.
-Plaza leasing plan: https://shopcompanies.com/sites/default ... 1704830656

Small update. Hampton Village (across from Thom Thumb) has also signed Lucky Rice, a Chinese restaurant which currently operates a location near I-30/Cockrell Hill.

Botolino Gelato (fantastic) is now open in Bishop Arts. This is in addition to their Lower Greenville main store.

The lease plan for the Exxir development in Bishop Arts is showing some interesting information. I'm not sure how updated this is. It includes development on the current large surface parking lot at Bishop and 9th. In addition to more apartments and retail, I also see 2 small hotels. This is under "scheduled developments" and includes both Exxir and non-Exxir properties.

https://shopcompanies.com/sites/default ... 1696262664

Total:
Approx. $350m in development
1,586 new residential units
84,000 sf Retail
112,000 sf Office
140 Unit Hotel


I think the hotel element will go a long way in making this area an even better attraction.

dallaz wrote:The phase two portion was always apart of the plan. Just taking them forever to build it. 9th street will also be tuned into a woonerf, since the city abandoned it and gave it to the developer a few years ago.

lakewoodhobo wrote:

dallaz wrote:The phase two portion was always apart of the plan. Just taking them forever to build it. 9th street will also be tuned into a woonerf, since the city abandoned it and gave it to the developer a few years ago.

I'm glad to see the retail building between 9th and Adams is independent of the apartment building. That way something gets done in the short term while they figure out that other massive project.

Now if there's money in the bond program for new NOC branch library and it's rebuilt to face N Bishop Ave, that'll be a huge step forward.

MC_ScattCat wrote:The Library is in the approved bond list for a re-do.