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DPatel304 wrote:

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Bottle Blonde will also have to go...

I'm guessing they'll just lease in another nearby space. With Clutch coming to this area, I think this particular part of town is just getting started as the next party spot.

A group comprised of Valz, Rico Taylor and Dan Wierck is looking to raise $4.5 million in an equity round under the LLC "Everybody Wants Some," according to a regulatory filing.

Valz said that 20,000-square-foot concept will be called Vice Park.

It is expected to be a high-volume bar and night club located at the corner of Good Latimer Expressway between Floyd Street and Gaston Avenue, across the street from The Epic. The group plans to renovate the existing building, converting it into a two-story space with a rooftop area and parking lot.

Coeval Studio, the firm behind Dallas projects like Happiest Hour and The Rustic, will serve as designer and architect on the space.



https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... -park.html

exelone31 wrote:Are they going to knock down the building then? This doesn't really look anything like it.

I've got to think that there's going to be a splitting of Deep Ellum into two districts. Maybe not two totally different names, but something like 6th Street and "Dirty 6th" in Austin.

quixomniac wrote:Id prefer a play on words, Deep ellum, Deeper Ellum, and Deepest ellum

DPatel304 wrote:

quixomniac wrote:Id prefer a play on words, Deep ellum, Deeper Ellum, and Deepest ellum

I really wouldn't be surprised if that caught on, considering we currently have Lower Greenville and Lowest Greenville.

Jay9398 wrote:This may wind up as a separate thread if it actually goes forward, but...

Plat application has been submitted to the city for "Westdale Epic 2". Proposed land use is all commercial.

This is located on the ~2 acre property immediately west of the current construction site. Otherwise bounded by 345, Pacific, and Elm.

Westdale has received approvals to close Hawkins Street between Elm and Pacific Avenue to accommodate the next construction.

"We have a second phase almost as large as the first phase," Westdale CEO Joe Beard said earlier this year.

homeworld1031tx wrote:Uber just announced a tech hiring freeze today, which comes a few weeks after they just laid off another ~500 people in their marketing department. This company does not have legs and I really hope they're not coming into the city due to a 'benefit now, pay later' tax break. They won't be around to pay later.

Matt777 wrote:

homeworld1031tx wrote:Uber just announced a tech hiring freeze today, which comes a few weeks after they just laid off another ~500 people in their marketing department. This company does not have legs and I really hope they're not coming into the city due to a 'benefit now, pay later' tax break. They won't be around to pay later.

I heard about the layoffs a couple weeks ago, so a hiring freeze is not a surprise. This could bode well for Dallas' chances of landing the tech hub as they will spend much less per employee here than in the Bay Area. The hiring freeze may be to prevent further hiring in the Bay Area when they plan to move those operations elsewhere. Who knows, maybe even an HQ relocation to get out of the crushing Bay Area salary costs and taxes.

I see this as a speedbump for Uber. I don't think they're going anywhere but up in the future. Mobility is changing.

homeworld1031tx wrote:Uber just announced a tech hiring freeze today, which comes a few weeks after they just laid off another ~500 people in their marketing department. This company does not have legs and I really hope they're not coming into the city due to a 'benefit now, pay later' tax break. They won't be around to pay later.

dallaz wrote:According to NBC5, Uber is officially moving to Deep Ellum. Also up to 5 additional buildings are planned on the adjacent land. (Info from the 10 o’clock news)

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:

dallaz wrote:According to NBC5, Uber is officially moving to Deep Ellum. Also up to 5 additional buildings are planned on the adjacent land. (Info from the 10 o’clock news)

I'd like to learn more about these buildings. Things are looking troubling for Uber at the moment; Wall St has been brutal to their stock. I wonder how the jobs comin' here will play out

dallaz wrote:

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:

dallaz wrote:According to NBC5, Uber is officially moving to Deep Ellum. Also up to 5 additional buildings are planned on the adjacent land. (Info from the 10 o’clock news)

I'd like to learn more about these buildings. Things are looking troubling for Uber at the moment; Wall St has been brutal to their stock. I wonder how the jobs comin' here will play out

Same here. I have a lot of the same questions. Maybe they think they will be more successful in Dallas. Lower cost of living, lower regulations, etc. will prolly help them...?

To be honest, I’m kinda uneasy about it...but I also like the idea of 3,000 high paying jobs. But I’m just not sure if it’s totally feasible right now. Hell, maybe they know something that we don’t, but as of right now, many people are saying the same thing. And it is nothing wrong with being concerned about a company that recently lost billions...

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:

dallaz wrote:

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
I'd like to learn more about these buildings. Things are looking troubling for Uber at the moment; Wall St has been brutal to their stock. I wonder how the jobs comin' here will play out

Same here. I have a lot of the same questions. Maybe they think they will be more successful in Dallas. Lower cost of living, lower regulations, etc. will prolly help them...?

To be honest, I’m kinda uneasy about it...but I also like the idea of 3,000 high paying jobs. But I’m just not sure if it’s totally feasible right now. Hell, maybe they know something that we don’t, but as of right now, many people are saying the same thing. And it is nothing wrong with being concerned about a company that recently lost billions...

From Dallas' perspective it's a no brainier though...I view it like this though. This 9 Million in incentives can actually go further than just Tax Dollars from new developments. It is also a signal to other companies (specifically Tech) that Dallas has the workforce to fill high skilled positions.

If this plays out well, it can be the start of a new day for Dallas. Furthermore, it speaks volume to investment made in Downtown since Boeing's spurn.

Even if Uber ends up on Rocky roads (Pun intended); Dallas still looks good.

itsjrd1964 wrote:Where will 5 office buildings go? Isn't there supposed to be another residential building at Epic, or no? Even with what hasn't been built on between Elm and Pacific, that wouldn't fit 4 more office buildings. There's been no word up to now that Epic will have more land than what's been built on (and used for construction staging). There is a building north of Pacific for sale/lease. I don't know if that big vacant lot to the north is available, nor the Midtowne Spa or that other place next to it. All that land would definitely fit more office buildings.

If the Uber deal comes together in full, along with the Uptown clubs/bars moving down that way, that whole area will really be buzzing.

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:From Dallas' perspective it's a no brainier though...I view it like this though. This 9 Million in incentives can actually go further than just Tax Dollars from new developments. It is also a signal to other companies (specifically Tech) that Dallas has the workforce to fill high skilled positions.

If this plays out well, it can be the start of a new day for Dallas. Furthermore, it speaks volume to investment made in Downtown since Boeing's spurn.

Even if Uber ends up on Rocky roads (Pun intended); Dallas still looks good.

clcrash19 wrote:There is no doubt that being a finalist and getting the pub from the amazon searched helped us a lot going forward.

citygeek wrote:Well Uber HQ's are in San Francisco, a very mass transit oriented city so there's that.