The Cedars Developments

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 13 Oct 2021 15:56

Yeah this is just Matthews showing off he has land around the station. Which before he has shown this land off to other developers in the past hoping to find partners. Now that the High Speed Rail is gaining momentum he is looking to update the renderings as we see above and again see if anyone wants to partner in redevelopment. This is all smoke at the moment. It could blossom into a roaring fire or could burn out. The high speed rail if built will certainly encourage redevelopment but this is just more marketing concept renderings without any firm concrete plans.

More useless fluff for the DMN by Steve Brown but the renderings certainly make some tingle with excitement as they are supposed to. Good marketing nothing else.
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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Tucy » 13 Oct 2021 16:27

Another day, another round of unrealistic renderings of "proposed" central Dallas high-rises and actual suburban high-rises.
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Postby tamtagon » 13 Oct 2021 17:55

Didn't Matthews win the bid to build the CCenter hotel in part because of starcitect renderings? after winning the bid, came back and said the budget wouldn't allow the fancy design.

If HSR is actually built, the intent of recent picture will stay intact, but it'll be built piecemeal (as they always are), with the Texas Central partnership hotels coming first - the trains will break even or make a little money, all the profit comes from the ancillary station development. Matthews Southwest will build whatever can be built on the non-partnership land in The Cedars.

This station wont be as impactful as DFW airport as stated in the DMN booster-article, but it will be significant. Any infrastructure that ties DFW into the energy capital of the world is significant, especially as EV mass production begins scaling up for the generational replacement of fossil fuel cars and trucks.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby ajderry2017 » 13 Oct 2021 22:37

Dang, I guess no more Texas Odyssey observation wheel huh? :(

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 13 Oct 2021 23:19

I really don't like how it's always the same developers proposing projects around Downtown.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 14 Oct 2021 08:30

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:I really don't like how it's always the same developers proposing projects around Downtown.


What you have to keep track of is which developers actually get things built. All of them release concept renderings to stir up headlines and interest but a smaller list of them actually get enough interest to build something eventually. Its easy to release concept renderings and pretend its actually happening to the press. The evidence is in a developers track record.
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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby willyk » 15 Oct 2021 05:56

Land at all three stations, high speed rail is “green” which is a hot sector, infrastructure bill will benefit HSR, Texas is a hot market… Matthews has all of the touch points to attract a major development partner, maybe even an international one.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Redblock » 15 Oct 2021 10:39

This Progressive Railroading post describes the corporate structure for the station area development for the 3 Texas Central station sites.


https://www.progressiverailroading.com/ ... any--64928

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 15 Oct 2021 11:54

This is what the DMN didn't explain well about the Matthews Southwest news with the concept renderings.

Texas high-speed rail investors intend to form an entity that will develop train stations in Dallas, Houston and Grimes County near College Station, where the permitted high-speed rail line terminals will be located.

To be known as the Texas High-Speed Rail Station Development Corp. (SDC), the entity will be independently owned by a consortium of Texas investors and separate from Texas Central.
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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Redblock » 18 Oct 2021 09:54

Redblock wrote:This Progressive Railroading post describes the corporate structure for the station area development for the 3 Texas Central station sites.


https://www.progressiverailroading.com/ ... any--64928


Here is the Railway Age post with more details.

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger/hi ... t-company/

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Postby potatocoins » 29 Oct 2021 17:57

New apartment development is in the works south of downtown Dallas
Stonehawk Capital Partners, a Dallas property development and investment firm, has just purchased a block on South Good Latimer Expressway next to Interstate 45.

The more than 2½-acre property is in an area targeted for new mixed-use development south of Dallas’ popular Farmers Market.

Stonehawk Capital plans to build an apartment community on the site, which is now occupied by industrial buildings. The buyer is working with builder OHT Partners on the project.

The site is just a block away from where Dallas-based Hoque Global is planning a seven-block mixed-use development called SoGood.

The first phase of the SoGood project includes a 266-unit apartment community and an “innovation center” for start-up companies.

https://outline.com/XEgBva

Has this development been posted on this site before? It's the first I'm hearing of it, and it sounds like it'll be just slightly north of the proposed "SoGood" development.

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Postby Tnexster » 16 Feb 2022 15:29

Multifamily project with QOZ bend headed to The Cedars

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... s-qoz.html

The JV expects to break ground on the development at Good Latimer Expressway and Louise Avenue in the third quarter. Located within The Cedars, the five-story wrap will feature 64 studio, 177 one-bedroom and 44 two-bedroom market-rate apartments, averaging 720 square feet.

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Postby potatocoins » 25 Apr 2022 21:21

Revered Dallas bar Lee Harvey's launches splashy pool club next door
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Dallas has places with pools where you can hang out and drink, but most are hotel pool bars such as Waterproof at the Statler Dallas hotel, and many allow only hotel guests. A closer parallel is the Fraternal Order of Eagles, aka F.O.E., a laid-back venue with pool that's been an East Dallas staple for decades. Except this will maybe be nicer.

"It'll be a really nice place — not a dive like Lee Harvey's," Smith says. "You won't be getting any splinters from the benches."

The 2022 season will begin in May and last through mid October, with both seasonal memberships and daily passes available. Passes will get you entry, but this isn't a deluxe kind of deal. You'll still need to bring your own towel.

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Postby Tnexster » 29 Jun 2022 15:15

Massive former Dallas Sears warehouse is getting a makeover
Property near downtown stretches along the Trinity riverfront.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -makeover/

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 29 Jun 2022 17:43

Massive Make over.... Doubt it.

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Postby rono3849 » 29 Jun 2022 17:48

I'm surprised that Amazon didn't take it over since they are buying warehouse space all over the D/FW area.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 29 Jun 2022 19:28

Well, it was already given a fresh new paint job this year and since warehouse space is still a hot market I don't doubt they will spend the money to renovate as they are touting. Maybe one day it can be part of a large urban mixed-use project but I don't mind that for now it's getting a redo for the red hot warehouse market we have in DFW right now.
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Postby willyk » 30 Jun 2022 04:58

Will this project put a lot of truck traffic accessing I-30/35 on the neighborhood streets? Or is there other access.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 30 Jun 2022 07:49

rono3849 wrote:I'm surprised that Amazon didn't take it over since they are buying warehouse space all over the D/FW area.


They could still potentially lease space to Amazon, I suppose. It would kinda funny, actually, since I still remember the Texas Central HSR press conference that took place at South Side on Lamar. Mayor Rawlings, standing next to VP Joe Biden, says something to effect of "We're standing here in the former Sears warehouse. Sears... it was the Amazon of its day."

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Postby potatocoins » 30 Jun 2022 08:57

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Well, it was already given a fresh new paint job this year and since warehouse space is still a hot market I don't doubt they will spend the money to renovate as they are touting. Maybe one day it can be part of a large urban mixed-use project but I don't mind that for now it's getting a redo for the red hot warehouse market we have in DFW right now.


Exactly my thoughts. There just simply isn't enough demand in this immediate area for me to expect anything else from this development, so a redo makes sense and at least will keep this warehouse competitive.

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Postby Tnexster » 30 Jun 2022 09:20

willyk wrote:Will this project put a lot of truck traffic accessing I-30/35 on the neighborhood streets? Or is there other access.


I belive there is access via Corinth St to Riverfront then 30 and 35.


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Postby dzh » 03 Jul 2022 12:37

OHT buying this site is mildly concerning because I really don't expect them to build something exciting here. I had a meeting with them a few weeks ago about a JV, and really nice guys...but seemed very clear that they're not interested in building anything but safe projects. It sounds like they only agreed to build the retail space on their Oak Lawn project after getting forced to.

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Postby JDumont146 » 03 Jul 2022 13:21

dzh wrote:OHT buying this site is mildly concerning because I really don't expect them to build something exciting here. I had a meeting with them a few weeks ago about a JV, and really nice guys...but seemed very clear that they're not interested in building anything but safe projects. It sounds like they only agreed to build the retail space on their Oak Lawn project after getting forced to.


They do nice work occasionally. The Alton off Cedar Springs is really nice. Almost open too.

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Postby undefinedprocess » 03 Jul 2022 15:38

JDumont146 wrote:
dzh wrote:OHT buying this site is mildly concerning because I really don't expect them to build something exciting here. I had a meeting with them a few weeks ago about a JV, and really nice guys...but seemed very clear that they're not interested in building anything but safe projects. It sounds like they only agreed to build the retail space on their Oak Lawn project after getting forced to.


They do nice work occasionally. The Alton off Cedar Springs is really nice. Almost open too.

A project like The Alton on this site (expect maybe 50-100% larger) would be perfect, IMO. Well, not ideal if we could have anything here, but ideal in what I think OHT would be willing/able to do.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby dallaz » 10 Apr 2023 01:00

This is the presentation for the Ambassador Hotel site from the Landmark Commission

Starts at 1:00:00

https://dallastx.new.swagit.com/videos/223170

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Postby DBadger » 10 Apr 2023 14:40

Its pretty nice. The renderings look interesting. I am happy that the plan is to build on the majority of the lot with the building where the ambassador was almost similar to the original building.

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Postby itsjrd1964 » 12 Apr 2023 11:57

A Weekend at the Longhorn Ballroom: The Most Storied Dallas Venue Roars Back to Life

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Postby itsjrd1964 » 16 Apr 2023 10:23

Texas Monthly also takes a peek at the Longhorn Ballroom

https://www.texasmonthly.com/style/long ... renovation

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Postby wbarch » 03 May 2023 11:16

Larkspur rental community coming soon.
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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Matt777 » 03 May 2023 17:48

More development in that area is good overall, but these townhomes are going to take out a couple very "Cedars-y" buildings. The old brick retail and industrial buildings on either end of the site. I wish these townhomes were being built on the already scraped empty land across the street, and that the old buildings were incorporated into a new development.

The red brick buildings on the south end of this site are so freaking cool.... would make a great mixed use commercial or entertainment/bar/club space.... shame shame.


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Postby dallaz » 10 May 2023 11:43

dallaz wrote:This is the presentation for the Ambassador Hotel site from the Landmark Commission

Starts at 1:00:00

https://dallastx.new.swagit.com/videos/223170


Dallas’ historic Ambassador Hotel site to become $113 million apartment project

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... t-project/

On the Ambassador Hotel site, the developer is planning a 299-unit apartment project in three connected buildings ranging from five to seven floors. The $113 million project would start in September and open in 2025, according to planning documents filed with the state.

Dallas architect Corgan is designing the development, which will total more than 320,000 square feet.

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Postby NdoorTX » 13 May 2023 00:18

Dallas’ historic Ambassador Hotel site to become $60 million apartment project
The Cedars neighborhood south of downtown Dallas is seeing a surge in new residential projects.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... t-project/

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Postby DBadger » 18 May 2023 09:53

Would be nice if they can duplicate the original AMBASSADOR sign.

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Postby lakewoodhobo » 19 May 2023 17:11

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Maybe somewhat trivial, but here's the amended design at the request of Landmark Commission. Notice the added height and row of smaller square windows.

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=646C6646

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Postby dzh » 21 May 2023 12:22

I hate the lack or retail so much. I understand why these developers don't do it (costs), but ugh lol

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Postby CTroyMathis » 08 Jun 2023 12:27

Looks like some residential units may go in at 1601 Akard:

https://sitgcapital.com/development/
https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/ ... 2023020938

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Project Name:
1601 Akard
Project Number:
TABS2023020938
Facility Name:
1601 Akard
Location Address:
1601 S Akard Street
Dallas, TX 75215
Location County:
Dallas
Start Date:
9/1/2023
Completion Date:
11/28/2025
Estimated Cost:
$8,000,000
Type of Work:
New Construction
Type of Funds:
This project is privately funded, on private land for private use.
Scope of Work:
The proposed project, located in the Cedars neighborhood of Dallas, is a 5-story residential podium with 50 units. Parking is provided in 1 level on grade. Amenities include leasing lobby,mail room,flex amenity space on each floor and rooftop lounge.
Square Footage:
71,739 ft 2

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Postby itsjrd1964 » 13 Aug 2023 07:32

Dallas' only major film & TV studio to get multimillion-dollar renovation

South Side Studios was bought out recently and will get a major renovation that will include replacement/additions of soundstages and new virtual production studios. All the work should be complete by May of next year.

https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/ente ... enovation/

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Postby rono3849 » 13 Aug 2023 22:15

itsjrd1964 wrote:Dallas' only major film & TV studio to get multimillion-dollar renovation

South Side Studios was bought out recently and will get a major renovation that will include replacement/additions of soundstages and new virtual production studios. All the work should be complete by May of next year.

https://dallas.culturemap.com/news/ente ... enovation/


This would be good for Dallas' future. At one time, Dallas dominated regional TV & Film production, which is now centered in Austin & New Orleans.

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Postby CTroyMathis » 25 Sep 2023 15:21

Perhaps a new Dallas PFC location to come online (among others elsewhere) in The Cedars:

https://cityofdallas.legistar.com/Legis ... FullText=1

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Postby CTroyMathis » 01 Mar 2024 12:56

"18 Lear"
https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/ ... 2024012704

A modest amount more residential in store for The Cedars it looks like.

Appears this is the design firm: https://www.parishlineco.com/
Possibly working with architects such as Corgan or Gensler, perhaps.

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Postby wbarch » 15 Mar 2024 12:56

has anyone heard about a planned 39 story MF tower at Griffin, Peters, Powhattan, & Wall? someone ran across an FAA application - date accepted Mar 12.

Project Wall Street
ASN 2024-ASW-3638-OE

work schedule start 3/1/25 end 9/1/27

structure height 492 ft including structural roof mechanical equipment and lighting.

Proposed 39 story multi family vertical line art deco glass/masonry building.

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Postby DBadger » 18 Mar 2024 12:31

Seems out of place in the Cedars at that height.

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Postby CTroyMathis » 18 Mar 2024 13:05

Seems to me The Cedars is a natural evolution of downtown spillover that garners a look at a little height. A next step. Not to mention the HSR-adjacent *visions* are possibly tall-ish as well. In before a possible highway cap even.

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Postby Matt777 » 18 Mar 2024 19:26

Any highrise in the Cedars will have fantastic, likely unobstructed views of the CBD skyline. I feel like Old East Dallas could see some highrises pop up to take advantage of the even better views from that direction. Once we see the long rumored West Dallas highrises, those will probably have the best views out of all. We don't have mountains, but we do have a dazzling skyline.

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Postby GunnerDallas » 19 Mar 2024 12:20

Speaking of views, and to veer off track just a bit, have y'all seen the view of the entire CBD and Uptown from the Sylvan Ave bridge at night? The bridge is angled such that all of the buildings line up to make one very long, continuous and beautifully lit skyline.

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Postby vman » 19 Mar 2024 14:11

GunnerDallas wrote:Speaking of views, and to veer off track just a bit, have y'all seen the view of the entire CBD and Uptown from the Sylvan Ave bridge at night? The bridge is angled such that all of the buildings line up to make one very long, continuous and beautifully lit skyline.

You're right...probably the best downtown view in the city.

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Postby Matt777 » 19 Mar 2024 14:12

GunnerDallas wrote:Speaking of views, and to veer off track just a bit, have y'all seen the view of the entire CBD and Uptown from the Sylvan Ave bridge at night? The bridge is angled such that all of the buildings line up to make one very long, continuous and beautifully lit skyline.


Yes, and this should be the angle that skyline photos are taken from, but they're still usually taken from Southwest of Reunion tower making the skyline look unchanged since the 80s.

The elevated area on the hill in the middle of the I-30/Hampton Road cloverleaf also has incredible panoramic views.