Dallas Fort Worth Urban Forum

DPatel304 wrote:I wish this development would have taken the 2000 Ross Ave. approach and built the thing in phases. Perhaps we would have already had the Central Markt + Garage by now, even if they weren't ready to build the residential portion.

Q: What’s happening with the Central Market store in Uptown Dallas?

It’s a fabulous location and we’re having to be patient. KDC is a strong partner. The city has been very supportive. We were approaching groundbreaking right before the pandemic began. Obviously, it’s a big, expensive project. And there was quite a bit of new office space included. There’s obviously a reluctance now with the uncertainty about how people will be working for any investor, financial institution, developer or owner to commit a large amount of money into new office space. So KDC is redesigning the project. And we look forward to seeing those new plans. So we will have an unfortunate delay, but there is no lessening of our enthusiasm that this will be a great project. It will be for the city of Dallas a terrific addition to a really exciting part of the city. Everyone involved is very committed. We’re just being patient. When the project is complete, we’ll be glad we waited and did it right.

rogerroger wrote:HEB's president was interviewed by DMN this past weekend. He was asked a direct question on this project.

Q: What’s happening with the Central Market store in Uptown Dallas?

It’s a fabulous location and we’re having to be patient. KDC is a strong partner. The city has been very supportive. We were approaching groundbreaking right before the pandemic began. Obviously, it’s a big, expensive project. And there was quite a bit of new office space included. There’s obviously a reluctance now with the uncertainty about how people will be working for any investor, financial institution, developer or owner to commit a large amount of money into new office space. So KDC is redesigning the project. And we look forward to seeing those new plans. So we will have an unfortunate delay, but there is no lessening of our enthusiasm that this will be a great project. It will be for the city of Dallas a terrific addition to a really exciting part of the city. Everyone involved is very committed. We’re just being patient. When the project is complete, we’ll be glad we waited and did it right.

Looks like HEB is committed to this project but taking their sweet ole time. Interested in seeing these updated plans and how they change the office. Hopefully they don't downside this entire project too much.

R1070 wrote:There’s plenty of land around there that could be developed into office or hotel when the market picks up.

Dallas’ city council on Wednesday gave unanimous approval to KDC’s new plans for the Uptown project.

Updated plans for the almost 5-acre project show the tallest residential tower would be more than 20 floors.

potatocoins wrote:Wonderful! Can't wait to see this one break ground, it'll be such a huge improvement to the area.

myelbow4 wrote:When will they actually start construction? So tired of seeing that empty lot in such a great location.

rono3849 wrote:

myelbow4 wrote:When will they actually start construction? So tired of seeing that empty lot in such a great location.

HEB is known for taking their time on big projects. They held out of the Houston market for years, then came in like a banshee. Within five years, they are now the #1 grocery store chain in that city. They even beat out Walmart. They are smart operators, so they are being deliberate in their moves here in Dallas.

Cbdallas wrote:Ok finally straight from the higher up mouth of HEB/Central Market. I was shopping this last Saturday at CM at Northwest Hwy and noticed a person with a name tag on but was dressed up and the store was extra alert. I realized this was an onsite visit from Corporate. I went up and straight asked what was up with the project and he said that it is all on the move and to expect a Spring 2022 construction start with CM taking over their space in late 2023 but more like early 2024. He said he is actually happier with the new design and that it would be a better fit overall. The reason they had to go back and change the design is that the banks would not loan the amount they needed to do the original office tower so they went bigger residential with some small boutique office in place. So basically a couple more years from now.

Cbdallas wrote:Ok finally straight from the higher up mouth of HEB/Central Market. I was shopping this last Saturday at CM at Northwest Hwy and noticed a person with a name tag on but was dressed up and the store was extra alert. I realized this was an onsite visit from Corporate. I went up and straight asked what was up with the project and he said that it is all on the move and to expect a Spring 2022 construction start with CM taking over their space in late 2023 but more like early 2024. He said he is actually happier with the new design and that it would be a better fit overall. The reason they had to go back and change the design is that the banks would not loan the amount they needed to do the original office tower so they went bigger residential with some small boutique office in place. So basically a couple more years from now.

Cbdallas wrote:Ok finally straight from the higher up mouth of HEB/Central Market. I was shopping this last Saturday at CM at Northwest Hwy and noticed a person with a name tag on but was dressed up and the store was extra alert. I realized this was an onsite visit from Corporate. I went up and straight asked what was up with the project and he said that it is all on the move and to expect a Spring 2022 construction start with CM taking over their space in late 2023 but more like early 2024. He said he is actually happier with the new design and that it would be a better fit overall. The reason they had to go back and change the design is that the banks would not loan the amount they needed to do the original office tower so they went bigger residential with some small boutique office in place. So basically a couple more years from now.

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Yeah HEB has been sitting on plans to open in DFW for years its blatantly obvious they have no rush in any of their planning. They mainly seemed to go after this plot to keep competitors out. The urban grocery market is tightly contested in well off areas of Dallas. Half the game is building stores on spots to keep your even lower priced competition from building another store and sneaking away small slices of the market share.

Addison wrote:Yeah, but Tom Thumb & Kroger suck plus are expensive, and the "well-off urban areas" in Dallas and immediate surrounding towns have some of the crappiest Tom Thumbs and Krogers in the entire Metroplex. They're dungeons.