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Wow. This is a smart way to maximize their real estate and surplus parking. I would have never thought of putting high-rise residential/mixed-use on that little triangle.
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OrangeMike wrote:Wow. This is a smart way to maximize their real estate and surplus parking. I would have never thought of putting high-rise residential/mixed-use on that little triangle.
Yea it’s very wise. And not to mention the added density in that immediate area. 415’ is gonna look great!
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zblevinz555 wrote:415’ is gonna look great!
The "conceptual massing" makes it looks just as tall as 23 Springs will be across the street. It also seems to be the missing piece of the Crescent complex when you see it in context.

I'll look forward to visiting the restaurant at the base of the tower by taking the #1 Malcolm X/Maple bus or the 103 Cedar Springs.
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This would be a great location!
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Agree it looks great but let’s tamp the brakes. The OLC and FAA may have something to say about the 415’ height..
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The OLC needs to just focus on urban design and let the FAA worry about the height.
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Cool! This may be the tallest in Uptown. That area is going to be like driving down Cedar Springs in a canyon. Also, not to mention the additional proposed Lincoln Properties development down the street.
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Was that deep spiral ramp constructed with footings for a skyscraper in the master plan and we just never knew it?

Or are they going to have to demolish that end of the multilevel underground garage to get enough new foundation pilings in there?
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DFW wrote:Cool! This may be the tallest in Uptown. That area is going to be like driving down Cedar Springs in a canyon. Also, not to mention the additional proposed Lincoln Properties development down the street.
The tallest is Parkside Uptown aka the New Bank of America Tower at 450 ft.
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DFW wrote:Cool! This may be the tallest in Uptown. That area is going to be like driving down Cedar Springs in a canyon. Also, not to mention the additional proposed Lincoln Properties development down the street.
I believe Miyama will be tallest, followed by Crescent Point, then 23 Springs but Lincoln could top them all with one of their new towers. No matter which one comes in first, there is a rash of height coming to Uptown.
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DBJ article based on the OLC documents.

30-story apartment tower proposed at edge of The Crescent in Uptown Dallas
Renters could live next door to hub for finance, shopping
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... scent.html
I45Tex wrote:Was that deep spiral ramp constructed with footings for a skyscraper in the master plan and we just never knew it?

Or are they going to have to demolish that end of the multilevel underground garage to get enough new foundation pilings in there?
It seems like it will be rebuilt somehow. The presentation had a schematic of the building that showed three "new" below ground levels of "parking access" that connected with "existing" parking under Stanley Korshak.
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mhainli wrote:Agree it looks great but let’s tamp the brakes. The OLC and FAA may have something to say about the 415’ height..
415 will probably pass w/FAA. As for OLC, they can go eat croissants from a drive-through looking at Crescent presentation paperwork they won't say no to.
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One thing in particular that is nice to see - yet another residential tower instead of an office tower. . .
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Wow, what an unbelievable transformation for that area the last few years. Selene, Maple Terrace, 2811 Maple, 23 Springs, and now this, all within a block or two. Even more if you stretch out another block or so. I believe Harwood still has another lot right behind 23 Springs on Bookhout slated for a high rise. Probably the hottest area in town right now.
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Uptown is on a heater right now!!
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dallaz wrote: 29 May 2024 10:25 Newer renderings


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e2ZaNg ... FPOFx/view
I like the looks of this A LOT!
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Can't get it to work for me for some reason. Would anyone mind reposting them here?
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I really like it too! That looks great!
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WOW looks amazing!! Love it and I really really hope it gets built!
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IcedCowboyCoffee wrote: 29 May 2024 15:08 Can't get it to work for me for some reason. Would anyone mind reposting them here?
The OLC presentation is 56 pages, but here are a couple of visuals of the 30 story tower.
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Reminds me a bit of Museum Tower, which isn't a bad thing. Nice looking addition.
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LongonBigD wrote: 29 May 2024 20:59 The OLC presentation is 56 pages, but here are a couple of visuals of the 30 story tower.
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You the MVP LongonBigD, I appreciate it.

Looks nice. Anything that separates itself from the forest of rectangles is a welcome design change.
This similar land constraint is why I'm excited for that east quarter isosceles tower if that ever someday materializes.
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Tnexster wrote: 30 May 2024 09:44 Reminds me a bit of Museum Tower, which isn't a bad thing. Nice looking addition.
I was thinking the same thing only it's gold.
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rono3849 wrote: 30 May 2024 12:03
Tnexster wrote: 30 May 2024 09:44 Reminds me a bit of Museum Tower, which isn't a bad thing. Nice looking addition.
I was thinking the same thing only it's gold.
That gold color seems to be an embellishment of the rendering when you look closely. The cast aluminum filigree on the Crescent behind it has the same golden tint, which is not how it appears in reality. The presentation even says the materials will be much the same: “The facade of Crescent Point Tower will feature a combination of natural stone, precast, glass, and aluminum mullions designed and selected to be compatible with and complementary to The Crescent.” I think it will still look spectacular, but maybe not so much like Campbell Centre.
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Are these to be condo units for sale or apartments for lease? Site and area demographics seems it would support residences not rentals.
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Are these to be condo units for sale or apartments for lease? Site and area demographics seems it would support residences not rentals. But considering this is Dallas probably rentals.
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Cbdallas wrote: 30 May 2024 13:36 Are these to be condo units for sale or apartments for lease? Site and area demographics seems it would support residences not rentals. But considering this is Dallas probably rentals.
Sure, that's what the Blue Ciel people thought.
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Semper454 wrote: 31 May 2024 23:55
Cbdallas wrote: 30 May 2024 13:36 Are these to be condo units for sale or apartments for lease? Site and area demographics seems it would support residences not rentals. But considering this is Dallas probably rentals.
Sure, that's what the Blue Ciel people thought.
Blue Ciel's area demographics are low income housing projects, desolate lots where low income housing had just been cleared out, and enormous tollway onramps/offramps on either side.
Properly sited luxury condos like the Terminal and the Knox area condos are selling briskly.
Not to mention that many older condo buildings in other properly sited areas like Turtle Creek sell quickly in the resale market.

The only thing I will criticize about this Crescent proposal is that the architecture is too modern if they're hoping for condo. But all signs point to it being rental, so it won't matter as much. I wish it blended better with the older Crescent architecture, though.
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DBJ said a couple of months ago this is rental. However, that could always be incorrect or just change so there is that.
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Matt777 wrote: 01 Jun 2024 10:54 . I wish it blended better with the older Crescent architecture, though.
Me too
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I definitely am surprised a bit by the preliminary architectural visuals of the project. I mean I don't dislike, though. I think I get where they are going with it. And, that rendering color is most definitely just over-the-top lighting "enhancement".

Also, gotta find it interesting the 2401 McKinney/Trulucks site there in the background just hanging on to something.
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tamtagon wrote: 01 Jun 2024 11:42
Matt777 wrote: 01 Jun 2024 10:54 . I wish it blended better with the older Crescent architecture, though.
Me too
Nice thinking
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Matt777 wrote: 01 Jun 2024 10:54
Semper454 wrote: 31 May 2024 23:55
Cbdallas wrote: 30 May 2024 13:36 Are these to be condo units for sale or apartments for lease? Site and area demographics seems it would support residences not rentals. But considering this is Dallas probably rentals.
Sure, that's what the Blue Ciel people thought.
Blue Ciel's area demographics are low income housing projects, desolate lots where low income housing had just been cleared out, and enormous tollway onramps/offramps on either side.
Properly sited luxury condos like the Terminal and the Knox area condos are selling briskly.
Not to mention that many older condo buildings in other properly sited areas like Turtle Creek sell quickly in the resale market.

The only thing I will criticize about this Crescent proposal is that the architecture is too modern if they're hoping for condo. But all signs point to it being rental, so it won't matter as much. I wish it blended better with the older Crescent architecture, though.
Blue Ciel is five blocks away. If you're trying to narrow "area demographics" tighter than a five block radius, you're really splitting hairs. Right across the street on either side of this are Ashton and Selene, both rentals. And Glass House is a block away. Selene is egregiously expensive, and nearly full already. Apartments in the area are both more common and more successful. I don't have a dog in this fight, but that's just the reality. There is nothing at all that says this should be condos.
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