Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

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Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby NdoorTX » 03 May 2023 00:17

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Re: 3900th Block, Oaklawn

Postby NdoorTX » 03 May 2023 00:32

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... awn-block/


Fort Worth developer plans luxury apartments and restaurant building on Oak Lawn block

The site on Lemmon Avenue in Dallas was previously planned for H-E-B supermarket.

A Fort Worth property company that’s one of North Texas’ most experienced developers of retail and mixed-use projects is planning to build in Dallas’ Oak Lawn neighborhood.

Trademark Property Co. hopes to develop an apartment and retail project on a high-profile site near Lemmon and Oak Lawn avenues.

Instead, Trademark Property Co. wants to build a 415-unit luxury rental community on the block that will include a corner restaurant spot.

The seven-story building, designed by Dallas architect GFF, will have underground parking.

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Re: 3900th Block, Oaklawn

Postby R1070 » 03 May 2023 09:04

I'd love to see a traffic light at Lemmon and Throckmorton. Maybe this project could bring that.

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Re: 3900th Block, Oaklawn

Postby OrangeMike » 03 May 2023 09:58

This looks very well designed. Maybe it will spur similar redevelopment nearby.

Can the thread title be changed? It's confusing right now because this is 3900 Lemmon (and Oak Lawn is two words, anyway).


Edit by Moderation: Title changed.

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Re: 3900th Block, Oaklawn

Postby Dallas_Uptown » 03 May 2023 14:00

R1070 wrote:I'd love to see a traffic light at Lemmon and Throckmorton. Maybe this project could bring that.


Agreed. Trying to cross Lemmon any time of day is a nightmare.

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Re: 3900th Block, Oaklawn

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Re: 3900th Block, Oaklawn

Postby R1070 » 03 May 2023 20:27

Maybe this will help spark the development at OL and Lemmon replacing the gas station and Pizza Hut.

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Re: 3900th Block, Oaklawn

Postby eburress » 04 May 2023 05:31

I think this is a fantastic project...I love the design, scale, etc and I hope this is the start of more similar development along that part of Lemmon. I just wish, city wide, that we were building broader sidewalks sans that useless strip of grass but whatevs.

I did see on Facebook though that the Oak Lawn NIMBYs were freaking out about this being a "monstrosity" and all the congestion it was inevitably going to bring. Hopefully their voices aren't heard! hahaha

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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby MC_ScattCat » 04 May 2023 08:41

I feel like Oak Lawn has people who think an empty lot would bring congestion. I don't live in Oak Lawn, but I drive in it frequently. I don't find Oak Lawn traffic to be any worse than other parts of Dallas.

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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby Benjamin » 04 May 2023 08:52

This is exactly the type of development the city needs in these neighborhoods to keep growing and maturing. Hope it gets done

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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 04 May 2023 14:11

THe traffic comes from Lemmon and Oak Lawn being programmed by the state, county and city as a major cross town routes. If we wanted to snuff out congestion in Oak Lawn then Lemmon would need to be trimmed and we all know the "neighborhood" would also freak out if they thought any roads would be allowed to slow down. Traffic comes from promoting faster cars and more lanes. I have now lived in Oak Lawn for over a decade and if you want to reduce traffic you would have to reduce its dependence on being a pass through. Developments like this finally bring at least buildings to the sidewalk. I don't expect Lemmon to ever change though. Business owners and the various levels of transportation tied with the city, county and state will always want Lemmon to be a highspeed route for the airport and connecting 75/DNT as well as major route towards North Dallas. Its delusional that a development like this is the cause of traffic when in fact it has the potential to finally help apply pressure in the right direction.
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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby R1070 » 04 May 2023 16:25

I don't see why it couldn't be both. LA seems to have a lot of high traffic thoroughfares with higher density.

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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby eburress » 04 May 2023 17:25

^ Not to mention with broad sidewalks and no useless strip of grass. :)

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Re: 3900th Block, Oaklawn

Postby rono3849 » 04 May 2023 18:22

Dallas_Uptown wrote:
R1070 wrote:I'd love to see a traffic light at Lemmon and Throckmorton. Maybe this project could bring that.


Agreed. Trying to cross Lemmon any time of day is a nightmare.


If the city timed the lights properly, there wouldn't be a problem. It's all in the flow of traffic.

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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby LongonBigD » 04 May 2023 18:36

cowboyeagle05 wrote: Business owners and the various levels of transportation tied with the city, county and state will always want Lemmon to be a highspeed route for the airport and connecting 75/DNT as well as major route towards North Dallas.


Don’t forget the Park Cities folks need Lemmon and NW Hwy to be high speed so Dallas riff-raff does not cross E-W thru the bubble.

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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby Cbdallas » 30 Oct 2023 14:27

Really hope this building happens and ignites more like it all down Lemmon.

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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby rono3849 » 30 Oct 2023 18:55

Lemmon Avenue used to be a terrific street with all kinds of great shops, clubs, & eateries. It went through a big decline with abandoned buildings, cheap fast food, head shops, and overgrown lots. Maybe now is the time we'll see a renaissance along the street. The area would certainly support it.

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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby potatocoins » 30 Oct 2023 20:10

Yes please, and hopefully a complete streets re-do as well.

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Re: Oak Lawn: 3900 Lemmon

Postby I45Tex » 30 Oct 2023 22:11

Cities know how to have a great urban environment in the midst of a high throughput corridor. It's called a boulevard. You just have to widen things A LOT. We skimp; it fails. Complete streets are just trying to make the best of a bad situation.

I say that because the width of the sidewalks, the width of the minor multimodal avenue on either side of the high speed avenue, and the width of the high speed avenue itself can't scrunch down into a single "stroad" without compromising the overall design of all three.

40-50 foot esplanades are needed for the roots of sufficiently strong allées of trees to shield the building canyon's occupants from the noise and exhaust of the central thoroughfare. You'll no longer want to make do with a scraggly single file line of street trees in 6' root buckets. It does double duty for shielding a second, quieter sidewalk that is not cluttered immediately alongside the ground floor retail, sidewalk café traffic and as such is much better for walking your dog, walking on a date, walking on your phone, etc. It's actually a lot simpler in concept than the highly engineered hardware TxDOT tries to cram into its rights of way.

For Lemmon Dallas'd be looking at buying and demolishing a line of properties, as has been done many times for the sake of building highways. We'd need to plat a new set of narrow building lots on the leftover right of way so that it didn't become one building per block a la Klyde Warren. That's a deadening streetscape effect.