Dallas Fort Worth Urban Forum

New 29- story Turtle Creek Tower?
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... utType=amp

I wondered why the townhomes previously planned for this lot didn’t go any further in development.

Can't read the story....are these apartments or condos?

Seems to be condos with 4 unit per floor.

Dang, that area's getting dense!

eburress wrote:Dang, that area's getting dense!

Right and I’m here for it.

Hmmmm? Turtle Creek, I've seen this movie before. Will probably never get past the planning stage.

I’ve never thought of this area as TC. I think of it as Oaklawn, but if it sells condos, fine by me. It’s a clean modern look. Nice contrast. Anybody else notice that we seem to have jumped from 20 story to 30 story pretty quickly in the recent proposals? Bring it!

I believe anything on that side of Oak Lawn Avenue to the Katy Trail is considered the Turtle Creek area.

Yeah, mainly all real estate and developers call this area Turtle Creek on the south side of Oak Lawn mainly cause Turtle Creek has more dollar signs attached to it than Oak Lawn. Some even hate that Oak Lawn is associated with the gay neighborhood exclusively, so they avoid being labeled as a one-note kind of neighborhood. It's not anti-gay so much that it's just they want to be associated with the wealth and prestige of "Turtle Creek" while having their cake too and having ease of access to the gay bars when those who like them want to go.

I live in the Aster Turtle Creek which this new proposed tower will block some of our beautiful views of Downtown. I face Love Field in my unit so I won't be directly impacted but honestly, it was bound to happen so I am fine with it.

It will be interesting to see if it actually gets out of the ground. There are a number of condo towers with unsold inventory on the market. Is the market glutted already?

There seems to be a race for a new product in Turtle Creek, though. You have Four Seasons proposed condos, the senior housing at Fairmount and Turtle Creek, and now this one. Plus, Hines has a big piece of land they have announced apartments for on the Garden Condos land, but the site is large enough to build apartments and condos easily. These products (senior housing, luxury apartments, condos) are not the same. Still, Turtle Creek and Knox are the go-to sites for Dallas right now, the key being both Knox and Turtle Creek feed off of easy access to the Park Cities where the money is, Keeping in mind those two cities refuse to allow high-rise construction or serious development of rental units.

Presentation from the OLC

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TAp4Xg ... THC3j/view

dallaz wrote:Presentation from the OLC

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TAp4Xg ... THC3j/view

Nice presentation, thanks for posting.
This tower is actually 30-stories with an impressive height of 370 ft.
Although 5 floors of underground parking will take a while just to dig it out.

DFW wrote:

dallaz wrote:Presentation from the OLC

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TAp4Xg ... THC3j/view

Nice presentation, thanks for posting.
This tower is actually 30-stories with an impressive height of 370 ft.
Although 5 floors of underground parking will take a while just to dig it out.

Per the linked presentation, it's actually 29 stories.

https://www.validuscorp.com/projects
GFF architects
29 floors residential, 4 units per floor, 370' approved by FAA
Underground garage parking

Very close to GFF and Fifield's 3515 Brown Street (as well as to Hanover's twin towers at 2525 Turtle Creek, and the possible 3601 Turtle Creek project and Four Seasons) --
2701-2719 Hood St and 3600?-3610-3612 Brown St are the possible addresses for this lot

30-story apartment tower proposal near Turtle Creek advances
Some neighbors oppose project's size; Planning commissioner says dense development is inevitable

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... lidus.html

A proposed 30-story apartment tower that could bring more rental options to the Turtle Creek area has gained a crucial approval from the Dallas Plan and Zoning Commission.

Luis Gonzalez's Validus Development Corp., which has built single-family homes and apartments in Highland Park and University Park, plans to build the 104-unit high-rise on a vacant three-quarter-acre corner lot north of Hood and Brown streets.

The commission on Feb. 1 approved the developer's request for changes to development standards to increase the allowable floor area while limiting the number of units for the site to the proposed 104, a response to neighborhood concerns about density and traffic.

Project plans, shaped in part by community feedback, call for burying all the parking, creating a landscaped parkway around the site and making access easy for delivery vehicles, said Evan Beattie of architecture firm GFF Inc. Sustainability was also a focus for the developer.