Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

[Tnexster]

^apparently yes

[tamtagon]

^hahahaha

[eburress]

I'm excited for Mendocino Farms but that's a bizarre statement for sure!

[Tnexster]

Food options at 2000 Ross are decent, will be nice to have more choices this close to work.

[LBK2013]

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2020/05/27/downtown-dallas-hotel-tower-project-is-moving-ahead/

Developers planning a new downtown Dallas luxury hotel are moving ahead with plans to start the project.

Plano-based Sam Moon Group plans to build the 283-room JW Marriott hotel on Ross Avenue across the street from the Trammell Crow Center office skyscraper.

Plans for the 15-story luxury hotel – to be built on top of a new 10-story parking garage at Ross and Harwood Street – were announced last fall.

Looks like the hotel is a go.

[eburress]

Huh, that's awesome...and surprising!

[R1070]

Yay! JW will be a great brand for that area.

[Tnexster]

Confidence, good to see.

[clcrash19]

Man thats huge! Really wanted this one to keep going

[j_d_p]

Very surprising but will believe it when I see it.

[DPatel304]

Great news!!

[cowboyeagle05]

If the hotel starts whats the likelihood we would get the residential portion since we haven't seen new construction residential in Downtown Dallas except in the Farmers Market area. Up until now everything apartment residential in the CBD has been old building conversions. I mean we are basically out of buildings to convert to residential unless one of the existing office buildings unexpectedly closes and becomes a candidate.

[eburress]

^ What about Museum Tower, AMLI Fountain Place, and Artelier?

[Warrior2015]

If the hotel starts whats the likelihood we would get the residential portion since we haven't seen new construction residential in Downtown Dallas except in the Farmers Market area. Up until now everything apartment residential in the CBD has been old building conversions. I mean we are basically out of buildings to convert to residential unless one of the existing office buildings unexpectedly closes and becomes a candidate.

Well also 2400 bryan street aka "The Galbrieth" is under construction. 300 pearl in the east quarter, and all the 50 new homes being constructed by the farmers market

[cowboyeagle05]

If the hotel starts whats the likelihood we would get the residential portion since we haven't seen new construction residential in Downtown Dallas except in the Farmers Market area. Up until now everything apartment residential in the CBD has been old building conversions. I mean we are basically out of buildings to convert to residential unless one of the existing office buildings unexpectedly closes and becomes a candidate.

Well also 2400 bryan street aka "The Galbrieth" is under construction. 300 pearl in the east quarter, and all the 50 new homes being constructed by the farmers market

Like I said outside of the Farmers Market. The Galbrieth is a valid point even though its target towards affordable housing makes it a little more unique. The comparison being we haven't seen the interest yet like we've seen in Deep Ellum, Uptown, Oak Lawn.

[Tnexster]

Maybe they are waiting to see how AMLI and Atelier do before committing to another new residential project so close to Ross. Don't those two account for close to 700 units?

[Warrior2015]

Maybe they are waiting to see how AMLI and Atelier do before committing to another new residential project so close to Ross. Don't those two account for close to 700 units?

Actually over 700. Somewhere around 740.

[Warrior2015]

https://www.dmagazine.com/commercial-re ... ion-phase/

So looks like construction should be starting in a month on july 1st

[Tnexster]

^That's great, if I was at work I could just look out the window to see if and when some activity starts happening but not yet. Maybe by July we will.

[Tucy]

Maybe they are waiting to see how AMLI and Atelier do before committing to another new residential project so close to Ross. Don't those two account for close to 700 units?

Last we knew "they" (the owners of this property/development) are waiting for an apartment developer to show interest in and buy that part of the property from them.

[cowboyeagle05]

Which sounds about right. They being Trammel Crow tower owners were only interested in building a parking garage. The hotel and residential were just ways to get the garage project through the development cycle in city hall. Promise a Gucci bag and a Bentley parked out front, but deliver a Jimmy Johns and a parking lot.

[TNWE]

Barring some groundbreaking shift in engineering/construction methods, the parking garage will always be the first part of any project to be built (leave aside for a moment the pipe dream that more than a handful of Dallasites will embrace a car-free lifestyle within our lifetimes). On top of that, should a project run into financial difficulties, the parking portion has some independent utility as public parking. Everyone complaining and/or casting aspersions about the true motivations of the developer should be happy that despite all the supposed "broken promises," the garage was engineered and built such that it could support an apartment/hotel complex on top. A greedy developer wouldn't go to the extra expense of over-engineering a standalone parking garage if they never intended to further develop the structure when demand warranted it.

[R1070]

It is a nice looking garage and good retail tenants are occupying the first floor. That’s already a big improvement over what was there.

[Tucy]

Construction was supposed to start July 1. Is anything happening on the site?

[clcrash19]

Drove by this today and saw no progress

[Tnexster]

Most projects seem to start late but I suppose they could be doing some prep work on top that we just can't see.

[maconahey]

Looks like this will start in October

Work Schedule: 10/15/2020 to 04/15/2022
Structure Type: Building
Structure Name: New Hotel
Structure Height: 273

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 15&row=204

[clcrash19]

big if true

[dbent]

big if true

It’s true no ifs to it

[R1070]

I love the way this part of downtown is filling in. I hope the momentum spreads to other much needed sections.

[Redblock]

A mural has been added to a white panel on the Ross/Olive corner of the garage/restaurant building.

https://www.fox4news.com/news/18-year-o ... own-dallas

Here is the finished project.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HN93zRjp3LX3mV597

[Tnexster]

Had to go back and look, 15 story hotel on top of 10 floors of parking. Not bad.

[Tucy]

Any sign of work starting here? Last we heard, hotel construction was supposed to start in October.

[Redblock]

A zoning change request sign has sprouted on the planned apartment tower area along the Olive Street side.The number is Z167-360.

Maybe someone can find some new details.

[CTroyMathis]

Looks like it's this:

https://dallascityhall.com/departments/ ... trict.aspx

[dallaz]

I don’t think these renderings have been posted.

https://www.sammoongroup.com/jw-marriott-dallas

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[clcrash19]

Looks amazing, wish it would happen, but keeps getting delayed.

[Dragon_Lady]

Inspiring! Amazing! Nothing quite like it! "Sir, we need you to return to room 101."

[rono3849]

Looks amazing, wish it would happen, but keeps getting delayed.

Until the COVID-19 chill on the hotel/travel industry is over, I'd expect this project to be on hold. It's the only prudent thing to do.

[Tnexster]

Just build it, by the time it's done covid will be in the rearview mirror.

[dallaz]

Finally!!!

Downtown Dallas hotel high-rise starts next week

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... next-week/

Sam Moon Group and Stream Realty Partners will hold a groundbreaking ceremony for the project on Dec. 10.

[Tnexster]

What does a groundbreaking look like 10 floors up on top of a garage?

[THRILLHO]

I don’t think these renderings have been posted.

https://www.sammoongroup.com/jw-marriott-dallas

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Has there been any word on the status of the other (residential?) tower?
I only ever see the rendering that leaves it out being used in articles. It would be nice to know if it's still in the plans.

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[DPatel304]

I assumed that it would be done in phases and that the residential tower wouldn't even begin until the hotel is completed.

I don't know if I read that anywhere, but that has been my assumption all along. Glad to see the hotel portion moving forward though!

[R1070]

This is going to be a great hotel in a great location!

[THRILLHO]

I assumed that it would be done in phases and that the residential tower wouldn't even begin until the hotel is completed.

I don't know if I read that anywhere, but that has been my assumption all along. Glad to see the hotel portion moving forward though!

I suppose if the current pace is any indication we might expect groundbreaking on the residential tower to start in 3 years . Hard to believe it's already been three years since the garage began.

[Tucy]

Not sure there's really a plan per se for the residential. Some time after the initial concepts were shown (and IIRC after construction started on the parking garage), they started marketing that portion of the block, seeking another developer to buy it and (presumably) develop residential. So, it's pretty hard to even hazard a guess as to when any of that might happen.

[cowboyeagle05]

^Cause it was a garage project first the other stuff was just icing on the cake if someone else wanted to build out a hotel and residential tower.

[Tucy]

So... has anyone been down around 2000 Ross to check out the start of work on the hotel?

[Tnexster]

So... has anyone been down around 2000 Ross to check out the start of work on the hotel?

I was at the office today and looked down to see if anything was happening on the roof of the garage. Nothing yet.