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Postby IcedCowboyCoffee » 28 Sep 2022 14:36

potatocoins wrote:Could Chicago's winters not get worse as climate change worsens?

You bring up a good point, I'm really not sure what sort of impact climate change will have on the future of Texas.

Individual weather events like winter storms can become more extreme, but the average winter temperature in Chicago will get warmer. (Edit: looked it up to check. Winters there have warmed ~3° degrees since 1970 and could see an additional ~3° by mid century. Chicago currently gets about 128 days with minimum temp below 32°F, but could see 22 fewer of those days by mid century, and fewer still further down the line)

And yeah, while phoenix and the entire southwest is certainly a testament to people's willingness to live in hot and dry conditions, the exponential and domino-like nature of climate change could make the future of living in dry places very different from the present reality of living in dry places.
Hard to know exactly what to expect for Texas's future, but just personally, speaking for myself, I'm not super optimistic.

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Postby potatocoins » 28 Sep 2022 16:34

Hopefully we find some sort of technological solution to combat the increasing temperatures..lol.

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Postby dallaz » 30 Oct 2022 13:12

Construction tops out on 27-story tower north of downtown Dallas

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... wn-dallas/

Construction has topped out on the newest office tower near Dallas’ Uptown district.

The Harwood No. 14 high-rise is under construction on Harry Hines Boulevard near the entrance to the Dallas North Tollway.

A project of Harwood International, the 27-story office tower will open next year.

The office tower is already 70% leased.


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Postby dallaz » 13 Nov 2022 10:42

Took these early this morning

Excuse the dirty windshield

At least this looks like the renderings so far… :lol:

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Postby R1070 » 13 Nov 2022 14:47

This project, while not remarkable, it does add good density to that area. There's still 4-5 spots that can be built on in that northern stretch of Harwood. Hopefully we see those fill in as well.

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Postby dallaz » 13 Nov 2022 17:10

R1070 wrote:This project, while not remarkable, it does add good density to that area. There's still 4-5 spots that can be built on in that northern stretch of Harwood. Hopefully we see those fill in as well.

And the site near Field St too.

Maybe the design has grown on me, I don’t love it…but I also don’t really hate it like I did initially. The fins are unique, I can say there’s not a building in Dallas like it.

The density has increased quite a bit in the last 10 years. When I made the exit onto Woodall Rodgers from 345, Harwood No.14 filled in the gap in Uptown’s skyline. It looked pretty nice since it is in 380+ range making it a little taller between the adjacent high-rises. I also, saw a nice cluster of cranes in the area as well. About 5 or 6 (including No.14). Wish I had a dash cam. It looked impressive…(well, to me) considering where we came from.

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Postby Semper454 » 13 Nov 2022 18:49

R1070 wrote:This project, while not remarkable, it does add good density to that area. There's still 4-5 spots that can be built on in that northern stretch of Harwood. Hopefully we see those fill in as well.


It's taken a while and seemed iffy at times, but their Rue Perdue is starting to look really good. They did great with the exterior of Harwood Arms, Elephant East looks pretty good from the outside, and the new pizza/martinis place, Poco Fiasco, looks like it's just a couple weeks out.

Making progress on the ice cream/dessert window place going in on the north side middle of the block, too. Imagine that would be ready for spring.

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Postby tamtagon » 13 Nov 2022 20:42

How many more buildings until the whole is done? I have a feeling our underwhelmed disposition to the individual buildings will be overcome by the 'finished' product.


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Postby FishSaucer » 20 Dec 2022 04:52

This building (like many others) embody this boring style of architecture. Big garage podium, and an okay building at best. Like mentioned above, it’s not remarkable or groundbreaking by any means but in this district it adds height and density, which the city needs. A glass box with whatever those fins are around it. I don’t know, I’m conflicted if it brings any better to uptown with a mediocre design.

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Postby RodB » 12 Jan 2023 10:40

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/se ... 3380&row=3

Looks like FAA just made a determination on this site.

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Postby I45Tex » 12 Jan 2023 11:25

The 1/11 FAA update is a height from a survey of the now-built structure, confirming 388' height. This had previously been a site where they asked for a 38 floor office tower of 580' but if I read correctly, they had been told not to exceed a lower height

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Postby Tnexster » 30 Jun 2023 09:35

Dallas’ high-rise Harwood District debuts two new towers north of downtown
A luxury hotel and the tallest office tower yet are latest phases to the project.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -downtown/

“We have still a lot of demand in leasing,” he said. “That’s the reason we are completing a package for our next office development.”


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Postby rono3849 » 01 Jul 2023 02:19

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I don't know if either of these renderings of Harwood 12 will ever be built, but either certainly would be the highest tower in the entire Harwood Uptown area. The location of the development is close to the Goldman-Sachs building, so they could certainly gain tenants from those businesses associated with that development on Field Street.
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Postby citygeek » 01 Jul 2023 10:49

We are all holdlng our breath.
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Postby I45Tex » 01 Jul 2023 11:30

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Postby R1070 » 01 Jul 2023 14:41

I like both of those designs. I’d be happy with either one going up. Hopefully we see something happen there.

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Postby LongonBigD » 01 Jul 2023 17:19

rono3849 wrote:I don't know if either of these renderings of Harwood 12 will ever be built.


I’m not sure any rendering of a Harwood project has ever been built. Seems to always be the old…”we like that design but how much more simple and boring can you make it to save money?”

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rono3849 wrote:Harwood.14.Tower.jpg Harwood-Phase-XII-2.jpg

I don't know if either of these renderings of Harwood 12 will ever be built, but either certainly would be the highest tower in the entire Harwood Uptown area. The location of the development is close to the Goldman-Sachs building, so they could certainly gain tenants from those businesses associated with that development on Field Street.

I think this will happen before Perot ever builds his proposed tower on the Field St and Woodall Rodgers. :lol:

At least they get projects done and not sit on their land for what it seems like for eternity. Although not the most striking designs, but since it is infill, I tend to try not to be so picky...but it is hard sometimes.

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Postby I45Tex » 02 Jul 2023 05:41

That goes to show that those best positioned to sell to serve clients in a flight to quality (when the occasional prospective NNN-lease tenant can still afford to pay to use their real estate footprint as a talent pool recruiting tool regardless of high national vacancy numbers, much less local ones) buyers' market aren't those that necessarily have the deepest pockets nor the highest riskappetite, etc.

They're those like Harwood that have prepared (over the span of a hundred different property decisions) a whole environment attractive in its own right to the discriminating tenant. For all their 2003 potential at Victory to do so, Hillwood is not benefiting in 2023 from the fruits of doing that in Dallas. They have invested but they cut their losses and now the market-facing product flexibility they would have had right now is not there.

Office tenants aren't attracted enough to their offer. Though let's give credit where due: the tenants and Hillwood do still benefit from it at Alliance. But Perot's ability to build a new Downtown Dallas building at lower risk with clients signed on during preleasing -- as a constraint, it's a demonstration of the hidden value of sticking with traditional business models for patiently improving the area where you live.
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Postby Semper454 » 25 Jul 2023 17:08

LongonBigD wrote:
rono3849 wrote:I don't know if either of these renderings of Harwood 12 will ever be built.


I’m not sure any rendering of a Harwood project has ever been built. Seems to always be the old…”we like that design but how much more simple and boring can you make it to save money?”


Haha seriously. If you wanna be sad, look up the original renderings for the Harwood Hotel (now Swexan), and then go drive past what they built.


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rono3849 wrote:Harwood.14.Tower.jpg Harwood-Phase-XII-2.jpg

At least they get projects done and not sit on their land for what it seems like for eternity. Although not the most striking designs, but since it is infill, I tend to try not to be so picky...but it is hard sometimes.


Not really true. Didn't Harwood buy all of their plots basically forever ago? So many of these lots DID sit empty for years and years. First couple buildings were built in the '80s. The rest of that land, pretty sure they acquired relatively soon after. We're just now finally in the back half of their master plan for all that land.

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Postby Kelley USA » 26 Jul 2023 09:38

Here's the thing about Harwood... They show us flashy photos, the end result never looks anything like the proposal, but in a swath of bland architecture that is Dallas, I think an argument can be made that Harwood at least pushes the envelope on design more than anyone else developing here. AND they do eventually deliver some sort of project, unlike Hillwood.

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Postby mhainli » 26 Jul 2023 14:19

Kelley USA wrote:Here's the thing about Harwood... They show us flashy photos, the end result never looks anything like the proposal, but in a swath of bland architecture that is Dallas, I think an argument can be made that Harwood at least pushes the envelope on design more than anyone else developing here. AND they do eventually deliver some sort of project, unlike Hillwood.

Yes, Harwood does push the architectural envelope just a bit. Most of their designs are at least not cookie cutter bland like Hillwood, Hall, TC, etc.. It would be nice if Harwood would take their best remaining location and do something special. Could raise the entire district and adjacent Victory…

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Postby R1070 » 26 Jul 2023 15:30

I agree. 1-3 standout properties on their remaining lots would really tie things together well.

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Postby tamtagon » 26 Aug 2023 20:33

sterling wrote:. I think what Barbier-Mueller has done is visionary. From Samurai armor


I saw the samurai exhibit today, and I was pleasantly surprised! Impressive

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Postby Hwulivn » 27 Aug 2023 04:12

I doubt the Harwood “District” will ever feel like a district to me. Over ten years ago I mentioned to one of their senior executives that they needed to work with the city to figure out a way to get the one way streets turned into two ways. Hard to have a “district” that feels like a district without the pedestrian scale development possible with two way streets versus one way auto raceways. Two way streets would’ve enabled a better urban fabric including better designed and connected building sites. It’s too late now. Pitiful shame that supposed “international” class projects are built this way in Dallas…and by people that certainly travel to other international level cities with much better design.

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Hwulivn wrote:I doubt the Harwood “District” will ever feel like a district to me. Over ten years ago I mentioned to one of their senior executives that they needed to work with the city to figure out a way to get the one way streets turned into two ways. Hard to have a “district” that feels like a district without the pedestrian scale development possible with two way streets versus one way auto raceways. Two way streets would’ve enabled a better urban fabric including better designed and connected building sites. It’s too late now. Pitiful shame that supposed “international” class projects are built this way in Dallas…and by people that certainly travel to other international level cities with much better design.

I don’t think that’s ever happening. McKinnon and Harry Hines are on and off ramps for the tollway.

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Postby mhainli » 27 Aug 2023 14:44

dallaz wrote:
Hwulivn wrote:I doubt the Harwood “District” will ever feel like a district to me. Over ten years ago I mentioned to one of their senior executives that they needed to work with the city to figure out a way to get the one way streets turned into two ways. Hard to have a “district” that feels like a district without the pedestrian scale development possible with two way streets versus one way auto raceways. Two way streets would’ve enabled a better urban fabric including better designed and connected building sites. It’s too late now. Pitiful shame that supposed “international” class projects are built this way in Dallas…and by people that certainly travel to other international level cities with much better design.

I don’t think that’s ever happening. McKinnon and Harry Hines are on and off ramps for the tollway.

I wonder if a study has ever been made for conversion of one-way to two-way for Harry Hines and McKinnon?? Looks possible to me (just like Houston St, McKinney Ave, etc). Addition of the usual traffic calming and pedestrian elements could be a plus too. Obviously the ramping at the south end of the DNT would need to be rebuilt and might be complicated, but what big project isn’t? Giving SB DNT traffic 2 entry points into downtown and 2 exit points from downtown to DNT (instead of one for both) would seem to be preferred.

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Postby CTroyMathis » 27 Aug 2023 20:12

I mean, I really need to drive 70 all the way to Frost Bank. This is necessary. I'll take the harsh braking hit on my screeching turn in to the building on my insurance app. . . I'll say it was Uber and not a drive. Oh, just in case, this was sarcasm. ffs.

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Postby tamtagon » 27 Aug 2023 21:34

Tollway needs reconstruction to expand reverchon park.

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Postby potatocoins » 28 Aug 2023 08:20

tamtagon wrote:Tollway needs reconstruction to expand reverchon park.


Yes please. It's a shame Goat Hill was removed and developed on, because it really would have been cool to have Reverchon park expanded, include Goat Hill, and extended all the way to be able to connect to the Trinity Strand Trail in the Design District.

It's really unfortunate how many highways/roads there are preventing this from happening.

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Postby RodB » 28 Aug 2023 17:29

What is the official height of this building? It doesn't look to be almost 400 feet tall.

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Postby CTroyMathis » 28 Aug 2023 18:22

Unless there is a further revision, after any updating/follow-up and all - there's this:
https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buildi ... wood/45178

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Postby Semper454 » 28 Aug 2023 22:40

CTroyMathis wrote:I mean, I really need to drive 70 all the way to Frost Bank. This is necessary. I'll take the harsh braking hit on my screeching turn in to the building on my insurance app. . . I'll say it was Uber and not a drive. Oh, just in case, this was sarcasm. ffs.


Totally insane the city still hasn't done anything for speed control on McKinnon from Pearl/Field to the DNT. More and more residential and retail here, extremely proximate to AAC/VP/Uptown, and at all times of day outside of rush hour slow downs, you have more folks going 60+ MPH than you do anywhere near the speed limit (40? 45? ... number does not exist?)

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Postby Tnexster » 29 Aug 2023 08:38

Maybe you just dig a trench, level it out and put a top on it. Make it tunnel and boom, everybody wins. Speedway underneath with a park on top.

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Postby R1070 » 29 Nov 2023 12:54

Number 15 was announced in the DMN today. This will be across the street from the current KERA office location where the temporary Bleu Ciel sales office was built. https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... wn-dallas/

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Postby IcedCowboyCoffee » 29 Nov 2023 13:46

Yup... that's a Harwood building alright

We're never shaking that "generic-city-from-The-Matrix" vibe :lol:

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Postby RodB » 29 Nov 2023 14:01

How many ugly 20 story buildings can they build? Smh

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Postby DalnHou » 29 Nov 2023 20:50

That looks great, NdoorTX, thanks for posting the rendering. Do you have any photos of the building lit up at night?
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Postby ajderry2017 » 29 Nov 2023 21:10

Shouldn’t there be a new Harwood 15 thread to avoid confusion?

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Postby vman » 30 Nov 2023 07:36

DalnHou wrote:That looks great, NdoorTX, thanks for posting the rendering. Do you have any photos of the building lit up at night?

Definitely one of their better designs. But it is Harwood, so lets hope it turns out looking like this.

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Postby zblevinz555 » 01 Dec 2023 07:24

Damnit. I’m suing Harwood Intl for being a joke. Yea high five for doing spec right now but then u look at the buildings numbers and it’s like what are we doing here

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Postby I45Tex » 01 Dec 2023 09:39

I am glad that they are not wasting their Akard/Caroline/Payne site on N. Field Street (which the FAA approved for 620' height although that approval expired last year) on this though!

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Postby Dallas_Uptown » 02 Dec 2023 12:27

I45Tex wrote:I am glad that they are not wasting their Akard/Caroline/Payne site on N. Field Street (which the FAA approved for 620' height although that approval expired last year) on this though!


Amen!

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Postby Tnexster » 05 Dec 2023 16:40

Another view of 15

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Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 07 Dec 2023 12:10

DalnHou wrote:That looks great, NdoorTX, thanks for posting the rendering. Do you have any photos of the building lit up at night?


.... This Design is pure ass..