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The Cedars Developments

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 13 Oct 2021 15:56

Yeah this is just Matthews showing off he has land around the station. Which before he has shown this land off to other developers in the past hoping to find partners. Now that the High Speed Rail is gaining momentum he is looking to update the renderings as we see above and again see if anyone wants to partner in redevelopment. This is all smoke at the moment. It could blossom into a roaring fire or could burn out. The high speed rail if built will certainly encourage redevelopment but this is just more marketing concept renderings without any firm concrete plans.

More useless fluff for the DMN by Steve Brown but the renderings certainly make some tingle with excitement as they are supposed to. Good marketing nothing else.
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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Tucy » 13 Oct 2021 16:27

Another day, another round of unrealistic renderings of "proposed" central Dallas high-rises and actual suburban high-rises.
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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby tamtagon » 13 Oct 2021 17:55

Didn't Matthews win the bid to build the CCenter hotel in part because of starcitect renderings? after winning the bid, came back and said the budget wouldn't allow the fancy design.

If HSR is actually built, the intent of recent picture will stay intact, but it'll be built piecemeal (as they always are), with the Texas Central partnership hotels coming first - the trains will break even or make a little money, all the profit comes from the ancillary station development. Matthews Southwest will build whatever can be built on the non-partnership land in The Cedars.

This station wont be as impactful as DFW airport as stated in the DMN booster-article, but it will be significant. Any infrastructure that ties DFW into the energy capital of the world is significant, especially as EV mass production begins scaling up for the generational replacement of fossil fuel cars and trucks.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby ajderry2017 » 13 Oct 2021 22:37

Dang, I guess no more Texas Odyssey observation wheel huh? :(

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 13 Oct 2021 23:19

I really don't like how it's always the same developers proposing projects around Downtown.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 14 Oct 2021 08:30

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:I really don't like how it's always the same developers proposing projects around Downtown.


What you have to keep track of is which developers actually get things built. All of them release concept renderings to stir up headlines and interest but a smaller list of them actually get enough interest to build something eventually. Its easy to release concept renderings and pretend its actually happening to the press. The evidence is in a developers track record.
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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby willyk » 15 Oct 2021 05:56

Land at all three stations, high speed rail is “green” which is a hot sector, infrastructure bill will benefit HSR, Texas is a hot market… Matthews has all of the touch points to attract a major development partner, maybe even an international one.

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Redblock » 15 Oct 2021 10:39

This Progressive Railroading post describes the corporate structure for the station area development for the 3 Texas Central station sites.


https://www.progressiverailroading.com/ ... any--64928

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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 15 Oct 2021 11:54

This is what the DMN didn't explain well about the Matthews Southwest news with the concept renderings.

Texas high-speed rail investors intend to form an entity that will develop train stations in Dallas, Houston and Grimes County near College Station, where the permitted high-speed rail line terminals will be located.

To be known as the Texas High-Speed Rail Station Development Corp. (SDC), the entity will be independently owned by a consortium of Texas investors and separate from Texas Central.
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Re: The Cedars Developments

Postby Redblock » 18 Oct 2021 09:54

Redblock wrote:This Progressive Railroading post describes the corporate structure for the station area development for the 3 Texas Central station sites.


https://www.progressiverailroading.com/ ... any--64928


Here is the Railway Age post with more details.

https://www.railwayage.com/passenger/hi ... t-company/


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