Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
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These Urby guys are fast!
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Great pictures! I'm actually able to see the tower from the other side of DNT while driving down Oak Lawn. I love that this tower and the Virgin Hotel are giving the Design District some height from afar.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
How tall is the second tower proposed and when is the timeline for the second one after the first tower and garage gets completed?
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I believe they are largely identical.clcrash19 wrote:How tall is the second tower proposed and when is the timeline for the second one after the first tower and garage gets completed?
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Not to mention good at creating a product that actually matches the original concept and renderings, unlike some folks (*cough* Harwood).citygeek wrote:These Urby guys are fast!
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Was driving down Stemmons Frwy. yesterday and was stunned at how fast the structure of Tower I is going up. It's nearly as tall as the Virgin Hotel already. I wasn't able to take a photo, but I'm sure somebody will post a new one soon.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Noticed its peeking high enough that it can bee seen from the I-30/35 Interchange as you're coming off I-30 going north.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Drove by yesterday, this appears to be turning out nice. Sure is going up fast but the exterior looks good from my vantage point driving down the tollway onto 35.
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Tnexster wrote:Drove by yesterday, this appears to be turning out nice. Sure is going up fast but the exterior looks good from my vantage point driving down the tollway onto 35.
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Nice shots! Thanks
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
It does actually look like the renderings the facade does anyway. Also its so tall now you can see it from many directions. Its nice to have some height in the Design District and with it and the Virgin being so close to each other we are starting to get a little skyline on the southern side of 35 now.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
When will the second building start?
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Isn't it already under construction as well? I see another crane on the photo right next to this buildingclcrash19 wrote:When will the second building start?
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I think that is the garage.Warrior2020 wrote:Isn't it already under construction as well? I see another crane on the photo right next to this buildingclcrash19 wrote:When will the second building start?
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
I am happy to see taller buildings as well in the DD. It accents our current skyline very well and makes our city look more impressive in size/scope. NYC or Chicago, we are not but we are slowly getting there.
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One high rise is not enough to ignite the DD. The DD hasn’t reached the critical mass it needs to be self sustaining, and there is no sign of that changing. I am worried the owners are moving too slow and will miss the market.
Riverside down here should have been the part rebuilt, not the part with the jail and bail bonds. Where are the owners fighting for that? Too many owners are waiting on the park that never comes. There is no need wait. Promote the trails that are already there. Get the Katy extension done.
Knox, EQ, Oak Lawn, Turtle Creek and the North End are already teed up to be the next big neighborhoods. No one is talking about the DD anymore.
DD is ready to develop now. The owners need to get moving, get organized on the civic improvements, develop what is viable now and make something of this neighborhood before the music stops.
Riverside down here should have been the part rebuilt, not the part with the jail and bail bonds. Where are the owners fighting for that? Too many owners are waiting on the park that never comes. There is no need wait. Promote the trails that are already there. Get the Katy extension done.
Knox, EQ, Oak Lawn, Turtle Creek and the North End are already teed up to be the next big neighborhoods. No one is talking about the DD anymore.
DD is ready to develop now. The owners need to get moving, get organized on the civic improvements, develop what is viable now and make something of this neighborhood before the music stops.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Very much agreed. Much prime real estate in that area as well!willyk wrote:One high rise is not enough to ignite the DD. The DD hasn’t reached the critical mass it needs to be self sustaining, and there is no sign of that changing. I am worried the owners are moving too slow and will miss the market.
Riverside down here should have been the part rebuilt, not the part with the jail and bail bonds. Where are the owners fighting for that? Too many owners are waiting on the park that never comes. There is no need wait. Promote the trails that are already there. Get the Katy extension done.
Knox, EQ, Oak Lawn, Turtle Creek and the North End are already teed up to be the next big neighborhoods. No one is talking about the DD anymore.
DD is ready to develop now. The owners need to get moving, get organized on the civic improvements, develop what is viable now and make something of this neighborhood before the music stops.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Urby Tower I is taking shape quite quickly as it continues to gain height & stands out on the Design District's emerging skyline along Stemmons Frwy and Oak Lawn.
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Looks good. Any status on the 2nd one?
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
So that other structure with the crane is the garage? I thought it was the second tower going up at the se time.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
That small one is the garage? What is the bow in that structure? Seems different for a garage.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Here's a little video on Facebook that sort of shows the curve of the garage...
https://www.facebook.com/MossConstruct/ ... 774640703/
https://www.facebook.com/MossConstruct/ ... 774640703/
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Oh, I see whats going on there. Thanks!Kelley USA wrote:Here's a little video on Facebook that sort of shows the curve of the garage...
https://www.facebook.com/MossConstruct/ ... 774640703/
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
I am assuming that's enough parking for both towers so they can just start the second tower when tower one is leased enough.
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What is the two story structure next to the towe?Kelley USA wrote:Here's a little video on Facebook that sort of shows the curve of the garage...
https://www.facebook.com/MossConstruct/ ... 774640703/
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Grabbed some Rodeo Goat this weekend
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Where will the second tower go? If anybody knows that for sure.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Based on renders, I believe the one that's currently under construction is the eastern tower. The second future tower will go to the west of this one. I believe there's supposed to be a courtyard/miniature private park that will sit between them for residents, but could be wrong.Tnexster wrote:Where will the second tower go? If anybody knows that for sure.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
^Okay, so in that picture above the second tower would be on the left side of the current tower....somewhere.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
There was a day when you could see the entire downtown skyline when driving in on Stemmons. Boy those days are gone!
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Tnexster wrote:There was a day when you could see the entire downtown skyline when driving in on Stemmons. Boy those days are gone!
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Here’s a good aerial view from a helicopter starting at 2:30 (you can also see Harwood No. 14 rising on the far left at 2:48. It looks about 5 floors or so)
https://youtu.be/W9uA7KVmLsw
https://youtu.be/W9uA7KVmLsw
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Nice find!dallaz wrote:Here’s a good aerial view from a helicopter starting at 2:30 (you can also see Harwood No. 14 rising on the far left at 2:48. It looks about 5 floors or so)
https://youtu.be/W9uA7KVmLsw
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Great height
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Looks like just a couple more floors to go.
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So from the helicopter view it appears the second tower will be just to the west of this one, but that placement will also give tenants a nice downtown view.....if what I am seeing is correct.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Here’s a screenshot from the YouTube clip. https://youtu.be/W9uA7KVmLsw
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
I hope they build the second one, these will look great together. I think this is looking better than the rendering.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
The aerial view of Hi Line and Oak Lawn looks pretty dense, has it gotten better at the street level for walkability? It's been so long since I've visited this area. I remember this area feeling like Houston urbanism to me – dense, but not much fun to walk around since there isn't a lot of street level activity/interest.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
It's not bad in spots, particularly around the Virgin Hotel, Meddlesome Moth, etc but I still definitely wouldn't consider the Design District "walkable."
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
It's walkable in that there are decent sidewalks and access to trails but yeah the ground level interaction is at a minimum. Still mostly museum like Design dealers/showrooms that look nice with lots of windows in some areas but its still a sleepy neighborhood. The Virgin has def activated the area since they operate a night club on the pool level and a ground floor bar that still has lots of programming and events that people attend. The Urby should also add to that cause they will have a ground floor cafe for residents that pretty sizable. Trinity Strand trail is currently looking to build a new bridge connecting this side of Hi-Line to a expanded trail loop making the trail even more useful than it is currently.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
Would love to see some work done on Turtle Creek running through the Design District. Should utilize the one bit of water running through it to help give the area something unique, especially with the ongoing and future residential development/trail enhancements.
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Construction tops out on Dallas Design District high-rise - Dallas Morning News
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... high-rise/
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... high-rise/
Is this a typo or is there a third tower I'm unfamiliar with?The $98 million, 383-unit luxury apartment building is a project of New Jersey-based real estate developer Urby. It’s the first of three residential towers planned on the 4-acre site overlooking Turtle Creek.
Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
I was thinking the same thing. The second tower has been featured in all artwork of the development, but no third tower had been mentioned to my knowledge. Perhaps Urby has become bullish on this development and has decided to purchase adjacent real estate to build a third tower? My impression is that Urby is not the type of company that sits back to see what happens once they get started. They appear to be an aggressive developer.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
I mean they never show the parking garage in the renderings and its pretty tall. Could they be keeping the option to build an additional tower on the garage at a later phase if the market is strong enough? I don't expect to see the second tower here until the first tower is well on its way to being leased up let alone a third tower.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
The garage columns will have to be stronger under any future tower footprint.
They likely will be visibly thicker, too, because a wider column gains a greater than proportional added efficiency in handling loads. If someone can't spot this difference from the edge of the construction site, it will be visible inside the garage once it opens. That should settle whether this third Urby tower requires another podium or has been planned for the existing one.
Best case scenario is if the three towers have a slightly more architecturally interesting tower in the center of two 27-storey ones. But so far the renderings look like they prefer an asymmetrical style.
They likely will be visibly thicker, too, because a wider column gains a greater than proportional added efficiency in handling loads. If someone can't spot this difference from the edge of the construction site, it will be visible inside the garage once it opens. That should settle whether this third Urby tower requires another podium or has been planned for the existing one.
Best case scenario is if the three towers have a slightly more architecturally interesting tower in the center of two 27-storey ones. But so far the renderings look like they prefer an asymmetrical style.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
I think the style of these towers is actually quite good. And better than most glass boxes we get around here.
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Re: Design District: Urby Dallas I + II (~308 FT | 27 ST)
You can tell a project is making a very public impact when all your friends keep asking you what is that tower rising near the Virgin. If you are like me all mine know I pay attention to what's being built and they all come to me to ask about things they see being built. This tower is in the right spot so people are asking.
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