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Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby Matt777 » 29 May 2019 21:02

Cbdallas wrote:So is the DREAM finally DEAD?


LOL I legit totally forgot about this one.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 30 May 2019 09:53

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby citygeek » 30 May 2019 11:08

Well it's still on the Dream Hotel website for 2021 along with Palm Springs.
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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby MrsKravitz » 05 Jun 2019 00:01

Old law firm has been vacant since December 2017 when there was one week of initial hazardous material removal (“pre-demo)” was done. Zero since then. Vacant lot is back to being a dog park and empty, boarded building is just an eyesore.

In January 2019 project was “indefinitely on hold”. Once the orange barriers on the back alley side of vacant lot are removed, I would say 100% dead. This was the third iteration of a proposed hotel in the location since 2012 so fairly sure it’s never going to happen
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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 05 Jun 2019 17:35

Probably will end up with an apartment tower proposal with a massive above-ground garage.
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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby MrsKravitz » 05 Jun 2019 22:09

cowboyeagle05 wrote:Probably will end up with an apartment tower proposal with a massive above-ground garage.


Neighbors fought very hard to ensure previous final plans - before they went to the planning commission- included only underground parking. My thought was that’s partly what made both projects too expensive (assuming cost had something to do with their demise)

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 06 Jun 2019 10:15

I am aware but when the third round of suitors shows up to develop a distressed property city staff are likely to let things sneak pass them...
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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby MrsKravitz » 06 Jun 2019 18:17

cowboyeagle05 wrote:I am aware but when the third round of suitors shows up to develop a distressed property city staff are likely to let things sneak pass them...


I hear ya.

Good thing those neighbors aren’t likely to let things sneak past them ;)

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby Tnexster » 29 Jan 2020 10:55

Guess they moved on to SA....

New York company planning 217-room River Walk hotel

https://www.expressnews.com/real-estate ... 011638.php

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby eburress » 29 Jan 2020 10:58

I really like the look of their SA tower. It's much nicer than the squat building they were planning here in Dallas.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby Tnexster » 29 Jan 2020 11:21

eburress wrote:I really like the look of their SA tower. It's much nicer than the squat building they were planning here in Dallas.


The concept does look good, I agree. I wonder where they are thinking or if they are that serious.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby Cbdallas » 29 Jan 2020 11:40

This area is feeling really like a gap on McKinney. I wish they would move forward or sell so that block can fill in with new energized development.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 29 Jan 2020 13:11

It would fill in if Dream would sell it and move on.
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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby LongonBigD » 29 Jan 2020 13:35

I'm OK if they have decided to move on. IMO, the hotel was always going to be a challenge in that spot on McKinney Ave because the corner lot was not available. They lost the race to be the West Village hotel, Canopy grabbed that honor. It will be a little while before another hotel is needed in the immediate vicinity. Doesn't Central Market towers include one in it's plans. Knox-Henderson on the other hand has no hotel since RH scrapped their Guesthouse concept. Just sayin'

Sell the lots to someone who will develop yet another 20-story apt building on the lots. That is probably best use for this particular block.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 29 Jan 2020 14:01

Also, another hotel has already been announced to go right near this site so it's not like the area is that dead of hotels if that one goes up and the Canopy is doing well and the Marriot over at Fairmount and Carlise is already mostly completed Uptown is not devoid of hotels.
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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby MrsKravitz » 29 Jan 2020 22:29

I wish they’d sell and get that eyesore cleaned up or demolished once and for all. I don’t understand why Dream is still holding on to the property when they know they aren’t going to build on it.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby MrsKravitz » 30 Nov 2020 12:17

Three years after they put up fences and barricades, did some “hazardous waste removal” in the old law office (and subsequently let the building fall into total disrepair and become an eyesore for the neighborhood), the fences and barricades have been removed!!!

I believe the Dream Hotel is DEAD.

What comes next with the dilapidated building and the empty lot is anyone’s guess.
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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby CTroyMathis » 30 Nov 2020 12:25

Well, for the time being, might as well go seed bomb the hell out of that new dog park*. Oh, and put a random monolith there, too.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby MrsKravitz » 30 Nov 2020 12:44

Actually it has been a dog park for the past 3 years. Now I’m not sure what dog owners will do since there’s no enclosure. They might have to go to Mutts

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby CTroyMathis » 30 Nov 2020 12:47

Yeah, I understand and totally joking about it being new - just different. Amazing how long all this has been going on.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby DPatel304 » 30 Nov 2020 13:16

It's funny to think this was one of my most anticipated projects back when it was announced. I'm pretty indifferent about this project right now, I just hate that we're now stuck with this ugly empty patch of land.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby MrsKravitz » 30 Nov 2020 13:49

The empty lot is not a big problem to me as long as the grass is actually mowed and it’s kept clean. But that building is now such a dilapidated eyesore that has been the source of so much trouble for the neighbors. Is ugly and dangerous and really just a horrible site. And on a major block. Doesn’t reflect well for homeowners or businesses in the same area.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby R1070 » 30 Nov 2020 14:28

Neighborhood was too picky and the developer probably wasted too much money trying to redesign it, etc.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby rono3849 » 30 Nov 2020 18:39

R1070 wrote:Neighborhood was too picky and the developer probably wasted too much money trying to redesign it, etc.


I don't understand NIMBY mentality. They Uptown area is vibrant, yet these groups try to block unique developments like the Dream Hotel. Now it's an ugly empty lot. Dumb.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby MrsKravitz » 01 Dec 2020 23:41

Neighbors mostly cared about the parking being underground (did anyone learn from the Monaco parking lot debacle} and the outdoor pool/bar not creating noise problems for nearby homeowners (like that disaster on McKinney with bar at the top)

The empty lot has been there for 10+ years and isn’t a problem. But the fact that the Dream group bought and then abandoned the law firm next to it is a problem. Hopefully that gets demolished like it was supposed to be and then there’s a large space for a better development!

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New fence

Postby hbkabc » 16 Sep 2021 22:22

Just took a walk and saw a metal fence wrapped around the empty lot. That's new as of this past week. Maybe some kind of action happening of some sort. Whether it be the Dream hotel (probably unlikely now) or maybe the demo of the empty office building.

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Demo

Postby hbkabc » 18 Sep 2021 23:13

Heard from somebody that claims to be in-the-know that the process of tearing down the vacant building will be starting this Monday, September 20th. The whole process should be done by late November. Also heard the Dream Hotel is officially not gonna happen. The voters voted them down so many times and they tried to redesign it a bunch but nothing would make the voters change their minds.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 20 Sep 2021 10:36

So have the Dream team put the hotel site on the market then? We would all like to move on with our lives and I would expect we will get a boring apartment block here that will still piss off these so called voters.
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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby rono3849 » 20 Sep 2021 17:35

cowboyeagle05 wrote:So have the Dream team put the hotel site on the market then? We would all like to move on with our lives and I would expect we will get a boring apartment block here that will still piss off these so called voters.


Highly doubtful to see this one gain any traction in the market with travel still suffering from COVID & re-evaluation by businesses. Unless something dramatically changes soon, this will be standing still for the foreseeable future.

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Re: Uptown Dallas: Dream Hotel

Postby MrsKravitz » 20 Sep 2021 21:56

“The voters voted it down”. That’s funny. The Dream team apparently has no money. And it seems like the neighborhood wants a big ole dog park for now. Time will tell but it sure isn’t going to be a hotel anytime soon.

What happened to the dual brand site close by with two hotels? Did that die too?


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