Uptown Dallas: 2401 McKinney (406 FT / 29 ST)

Redblock · Post by **Redblock** » 08 Sep 2020 19:04

They have recently posted zoning change request signs. The case number is Z190-305. Maybe someone can find some drawings.

Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 08 Sep 2020 22:22

How much longer until the strip mall across the street is redeveloped... I wonder how profitable it is at this point. Them taxes keep goin up...

Cbdallas · Post by **Cbdallas** » 09 Sep 2020 10:53

Hopefully this will create high rise development all the way up McKinney to the new Central Market Development.

Dallas12 · Post by **Dallas12** » 09 Sep 2020 10:56

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:How much longer until the strip mall across the street is redeveloped... I wonder how profitable it is at this point. Them taxes keep goin up...

Taxes are passed straight through to the tenants. That’s prime real estate. The owner can get long term leases with rent escalators. Taxes, insurance, and utilities/maintenance all get passed on to their tenants.

Redblock · Post by **Redblock** » 29 Oct 2020 09:07

CBRE is locating their headquarters from Los Angeles to Dallas.

This development is mentioned as a possible site if they eventually consolidate their local offices to one building.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/money/busi ... ea9399704c

Post by **tamtagon** » 29 Oct 2020 10:07

now maybe ZaZa will add a tower...

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 29 Oct 2020 10:24

tamtagon wrote:now maybe ZaZa will add a tower...

That gas station lot would be great for a tower.

Post by **Tnexster** » 25 Jan 2021 13:02

Uptown Dallas tower project on track with planning approval
Trammell Crow Co. plans 27-story high-rise on McKinney Avenue.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -approval/

Mark Lea · Post by **Mark Lea** » 26 Jan 2021 12:11

Are there any photos that someone could post on here? Almost 3 years after GDPR was instituted, the DMN website still isn't compliant or accessible in Europe :/

quixomniac · Post by **quixomniac** » 26 Jan 2021 15:16

Mark Lea wrote:Are there any photos that someone could post on here? Almost 3 years after GDPR was instituted, the DMN website still isn't compliant or accessible in Europe :/

Sure thing! There's not much in the article tho.
Development porn for all!

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Post by **Tnexster** » 26 Jan 2021 15:30

Nice that something will punch through the usual 20 floor cap.

Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 26 Jan 2021 17:35

Doesn't look like anything has changed since the renders first came out

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 26 Jan 2021 20:10

This is going to be a great project.

Post by **Tnexster** » 01 Mar 2021 10:06

Uptown Dallas’ next tower project wins approvals
Trammell Crow Co. gets final okay for McKinney Avenue office and retail high-rise.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... approvals/

The 670,000-square-foot development was designed by Connecticut-based architect Pickard Chilton and Dallas’ HKS and will include restaurant and retail space on the ground floor. Truluck’s plans to move into the building after the two years of construction.

“We are excited about this new development at 2401 McKinney,” Crow Co. senior managing director Scott Krikorian told the council. “We do not take this opportunity lightly.

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 01 Mar 2021 11:57

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I wonder how long it will be before they start tearing down Truluck's building & start construction?

eburress · Post by **eburress** » 01 Mar 2021 12:19

I really wish they'd put in some real sidewalks in front of this and get rid of those useless grass strips.

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 01 Mar 2021 15:00

It’s gonna have a great impact right there.

Kelley USA · Post by **Kelley USA** » 04 Mar 2021 11:32

Update... Looks like the project will now be 29 stories. Also a few more pics that I hadn't seen before.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... n-for.html

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 04 Mar 2021 12:10

Any word on expected start?

Tucy · Post by **Tucy** » 04 Mar 2021 14:21

Kelley USA wrote:Update... Looks like the project will now be 29 stories. Also a few more pics that I hadn't seen before.

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... n-for.html

Added two floors and reduced the overall height? hmmmm

FWIW, the renderings don't seem to show a 29-story building. It's a stretch to count 27 stories.

Tucy · Post by **Tucy** » 04 Mar 2021 14:23

R1070 wrote:Any word on expected start?

Per the DMN article, "Crow Co. hopes to start construction on the building this year." What that probably means is: whenever they sign sufficient office leases to get financing.

Kelley USA · Post by **Kelley USA** » 23 Jul 2021 09:55

Looks like this one is perhaps ready to get going Feb 2022. $200 million project:

https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/ ... 2021020495

Post by **Tnexster** » 23 Jul 2021 11:23

Three year build? Didn't think it was that large.

Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 23 Jul 2021 14:01

The little shopping center across the street looking like the next candidate for redevelopment...

R1070 · Post by **R1070** » 23 Jul 2021 14:03

I’d like to see the gas station site be redeveloped. That’s such a great location that’s wasted.

Tucy · Post by **Tucy** » 12 Nov 2021 10:07

Dallas City Council approved a plan to give CBRE/Trammel Crow subsidies if they build this building. The subsidy would require CBRE to lease 200,000 square feet of space in their own building! The folks at CBRE must be laughing all the way to the bank.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/rea ... -and-jobs/

Post by **tamtagon** » 14 Nov 2021 08:09

^the amount of assistance Trammel Crow Companies have received over the decades from Dallas is staggering. What a weird, perverse standard operating procedure that's evolved between for-profit companies and municipal entities.

Tucy · Post by **Tucy** » 20 Jun 2022 13:53

What's up with this project?

kingkong34 · Post by **kingkong34** » 21 Jun 2022 09:06

I've noticed that they have had a rezoning sign on the property for some time.

RodB · Post by **RodB** » 01 Jul 2022 14:59

There doesn't appear to be anything happening with this project.

ajderry2017 · Post by **ajderry2017** » 01 Jul 2022 20:21

Someone try calling the manager of Truluks? See if they know anything about closing for construction?

rono3849 · Post by **rono3849** » 02 Jul 2022 13:25

ajderry2017 wrote:Someone try calling the manager of Truluks? See if they know anything about closing for construction?

We've got to have some struggling journalists in our mist. Right?

Post by **tamtagon** » 02 Jul 2022 17:32

This is the one that CBRE is moving to?

Tucy · Post by **Tucy** » 02 Jul 2022 18:30

tamtagon wrote:This is the one that CBRE is moving to?

Yes. One would have thought it would have been underway by now...

Post by **cowboyeagle05** » 04 Jul 2022 13:27

This has Trammel Crow and CBRE involved all pretty sturdy developers. The question is the Maple Ave road work getting in the way of this starting at all? They have had Maple ave along the southern edge of this site for months now. Plus the apartment building further down Maple. DId this site maybe need some utility work before construction could start for some reason maybe? CBRE isn't going anywhere so it's odd but also I can see them not being in a rush too.

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 05 Jul 2022 13:12

Maple Ave. is so bizarrely bad between McKinney Ave. and a little short of Wolf. There are massive divots really close to the McK intersection that I'm not sure you can just call them potholes. This as a pedestrian observer from the sidewalk.

Regardless, while I have zero knowledge of if the street chaos has anything to do with the construction schedule of this tower - it does appear it is definitely not helpful. I guess I could use a lot more info on that detail that I don't have at the moment - I'll try to look up a few things later.

Between old Old Warsaw/3001 Maple/28whatever Maple/2401 McK/Springs-whatever - there's a lot of shit going on or presumed to be going on in this short and fairly narrow corridor. Maple will have to be *resurfaced again for sure in a couple of years or so, assuming all or most of the vertical construction happens. I'll post some photos later, too. My lunch break was a loop around a lot of this today.

*-My own anecdote based on what kind of heavy equipment I see pass through constantly with only one building (old Old Warsaw) u/c, deliveries to The Crescent's hilariously tiny loading dock, and, other stuff with street work and nearby demos. Granted, 3001 is u/c, but, they're largely using Wolf.

ajderry2017 · Post by **ajderry2017** » 01 Aug 2022 22:06

Called Trulucks manager today. Even they don’t know when construction will start. Saying “it keeps getting pushed back”. As of now you can book a reservation through December

Post by **Tnexster** » 02 Aug 2022 09:07

ajderry2017 wrote:Called Trulucks manager today. Even they don’t know when construction will start. Saying “it keeps getting pushed back”. As of now you can book a reservation through December

What's the holdup here?

DFW · Post by **DFW** » 02 Aug 2022 13:51

I did notice that a bunch of car barriers blocks piled up just to the right side of the True Lucks restaurant parking lot. Don't know if this means anything

Tivo_Kenevil · Post by **Tivo_Kenevil** » 02 Aug 2022 20:13

DFW wrote:I did notice that a bunch of car barriers blocks piled up just to the right side of the True Lucks restaurant parking lot. Don't know if this means anything

That was for street work

Post by **undefinedprocess** » 02 Aug 2022 23:10

Tnexster wrote:
ajderry2017 wrote:Called Trulucks manager today. Even they don’t know when construction will start. Saying “it keeps getting pushed back”. As of now you can book a reservation through December
What's the holdup here?

My guess would be something related to the CBRE deal, but that could be 180º in the wrong direction, so...

Post by **Tnexster** » 03 Aug 2022 10:21

On the plus side this means Trulocks chocolate cake will be available for a while longer which is awesome. I thought this one would have already started by now.

scott2 · Post by **scott2** » 03 Aug 2022 11:27

What's the holdup here?
My guess would be something related to the CBRE deal, but that could be 180º in the wrong direction, so...

No...that is most logical as no construction will start until the CBRE agreement is finalized ( a guarantee for the construction $$$). Wish they had included residential somehow in this project so you could get the killer cake delivered from Trulucks the ground floor to your door. Maybe next time.

thelivingworld · Post by **thelivingworld** » 05 Aug 2022 01:17

Construction Journal is now expecting this project to start August 2022. This was just updated today. They just had the dates they pulled from TDLR before. CBRE did just release a very positive quarterly earning report today. We shall see.

"A 27-story office building is being planned here. It will include 670,000 square feet of office space, underground parking and 15,000 square feet of ground floor retail. Truluck's will be the anchor retail tenant. As of June 7, 2022, construction documents have been issued. Final pricing is being finalized and construction is anticipated to begin soon."

Post by **Tnexster** » 05 Aug 2022 10:41

So basically it sounds like I need to go get my cake sooner than later.

Post by **CTroyMathis** » 05 Aug 2022 11:06

I wonder if Trulucks might ghost out of some location and do a revised menu for pick-up/courier vice just shutting down for a couple of years or so whenever this project actually starts. Just thinking out loud.

Post by **Tnexster** » 05 Aug 2022 14:34

CTroyMathis wrote:I wonder if Trulucks might ghost out of some location and do a revised menu for pick-up/courier vice just shutting down for a couple of years or so whenever this project actually starts. Just thinking out loud.

That would be awesome! I don't go there often but I do like it a lot. And during the pandemic that place was always packed.

Post by **tamtagon** » 05 Aug 2022 15:39

I liked the bloody Marys, with horseradish. That might have been fog city diner, though ...

ajderry2017 · Post by **ajderry2017** » 06 Aug 2022 12:40

I’ll keep you guys updated on whether they cancel my “reservation” I set for December

kingkong34 · Post by **kingkong34** » 31 Aug 2022 11:46

Drove by the location of this project on my way to work and noticed they took down the proposed rezoning sign that was there a week ago. Not sure what this means.