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Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

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Postby quixomniac » 22 Apr 2020 23:38

tamtagon wrote:^Belo mansion should be morphed into a museum of modern art.

Yes!. A retrofit. Like how IM PEI put the louve pyramid amidst the older Louvre buildings.
Or somehow keep the shell of the mansion and build underground.

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Postby tamtagon » 23 Apr 2020 06:08

...as the Belo Mansion exists today, retro-fitting it as a History Museum and Library seems to make more sense... presuming of course the Arts District became home of Dallas City Library collection of historical documents and things (including an original copy of the Declaration of Independence) and Harlan Crow puts his collection on permanent display in the Arts District.

The DMA next door has a solid restoration department that could expand with document preservation and strengthen the collections of both entities.

I think, however, a History Museum and Library would be better housed through an expansion at the City Library. That side of town needs a significant venue - new bright and shiny!! - to increase the flow of philanthropic billions into the city's array of cultural destinations. The Municipal Auditorium and The Black Academy of Arts and Letters both need a gigantic boost to become more relevant as regional destinations.

So, ya, Belo Mansion retro-fit for Modern Art.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 23 Apr 2020 10:43

The Belo mansion just went through a major remodel in 2018 I doubt they will be up to sell unless whoever owns it now needs the cash after this Corona thing is over. Obviously they aren't making any money with events closed for now. Mind you I wonder who owns it? And is it protected unlike most historical buildings in Dallas.
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Postby Hannibal Lecter » 23 Apr 2020 12:51

^ The Dallas Bar Association has owned it for over 40 years.

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Postby Hannibal Lecter » 23 Apr 2020 12:55

tamtagon wrote:I think, however, a History Museum and Library would be better housed through an expansion at the City Library. That side of town needs a significant venue - new bright and shiny!! - to increase the flow of philanthropic billions into the city's array of cultural destinations.


The city has written off the downtown library. It exists now only as a homeless campground. Have you been by it lately? They have to keep cops stationed in front of it 24/7.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 23 Apr 2020 15:51

Hannibal Lecter wrote:^ The Dallas Bar Association has owned it for over 40 years.


I assume its a big cash cow for them plus they can hold events for the Dallas Bar Association members for a discount.

So moving on from that idea. Flora and Olive tower though. I wonder if we will see any ground floor tenants announced or if the quarantine may have slowed talks on anything new for awhile.
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Postby mdg109 » 23 Apr 2020 16:38

The good thing is that there is plenty of retail space on both sides of Flora between Olive and Pearl for future tenants. Hopefully that will make the Arts District a little more enjoyable. Flora Street beyond Pearl still needs work in terms of street life. Ideally the hotel and residential would help.

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Postby rono3849 » 07 May 2020 00:26

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The Flora & Olive Tower is beginning to take shape as they start on the 36th floor, with 4 floors remaining. The bright white facade will make it jump off the skyline.
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Postby ContriveDallasite » 07 May 2020 01:55

Beautiful!

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Postby Mr. Amsterdam » 07 May 2020 12:08

One of my favorites in the past 5 years. Glad it'll take its final shape soon.
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Postby Tnexster » 09 May 2020 11:57

I'm liking the light color on this one.

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Postby dalbert » 18 May 2020 11:30

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View from Victory Park
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Postby Tnexster » 18 May 2020 11:52

Nice shot!

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Postby clcrash19 » 18 May 2020 14:23

Are they on the final floor? Or maybe one to go

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Postby dallaz » 18 May 2020 15:24

^^^I think there’s 2 or 3 more floors to go. I think it’s at 36 or 37 floors right now.

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Postby DPatel304 » 18 May 2020 15:39

Nice shot! I love how Woodall Rogers barely looks like a barrier from that angle, and that will just be more true as both sides continue to develop.

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Postby cowboyeagle05 » 18 May 2020 22:06

True to the assumption that Dallas is about highway based visual attractiveness over the reality. A highway does look like a minor thing from far away just like Fountain Place looks like a perfectly great highrise but when you get up close you see things start to fall apart. Walled up, closed in, and very much disconnected from anything around it.
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Postby rono3849 » 18 May 2020 23:10

dalbert wrote:IMG_0535.jpg

View from Victory Park


Getting close to the topping out. :!:
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Postby rono3849 » 19 May 2020 17:24

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Looks like only three more floors to go, plus the utility cap, and it's topped out. Nice addition to the skyline. The views should be spectacular from the balconies.
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Postby R1070 » 27 May 2020 23:19

1 or 2 floors left after the current one is done (I think).

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Postby clcrash19 » 02 Jun 2020 12:48

Working on final floor right now

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Postby st0760 » 02 Jun 2020 19:01

Looking great! Any word yet on projected rents and floorpans? Interested to see how this project stacks up vs. AMLI Fountain Place. Hoping for a speedy and profitable lease-up so we can see more projects on the empty lots just down Ross.

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Postby R1070 » 02 Jun 2020 19:42

st0760 wrote:Looking great! Any word yet on projected rents and floorpans? Interested to see how this project stacks up vs. AMLI Fountain Place. Hoping for a speedy and profitable lease-up so we can see more projects on the empty lots just down Ross.


Same here. Those Headington lots would be a great locations for high rise residential buildings like this and Amli. It could be a really cool neighborhood.

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Postby rono3849 » 03 Jun 2020 20:18

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Flora & Olive Tower's structure is just about complete. It's white & glass facade makes its presence stand out on the skyline.
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Postby Tnexster » 04 Jun 2020 10:32

Great pics! Thanks!

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Postby R1070 » 24 Jun 2020 16:03

So glad this lot has been filled in.

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Postby Tnexster » 25 Jun 2020 13:51

This one is topped off?

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Postby R1070 » 25 Jun 2020 14:07

Yes.

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Postby dallaz » 25 Jun 2020 19:09

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Postby FishSaucer » 26 Jun 2020 03:03

via @j_haun on Instagram. Aerial view of Atelier topped out.
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Postby DPatel304 » 26 Jun 2020 09:21

Beautiful picture!! This building is looking incredible!

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Postby Urban Toreador » 29 Jun 2020 20:29

Crane on the west side is gone as of today.

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Postby st0760 » 01 Jul 2020 09:25

Leasing info is up!

Studio: $1,860-$2,100
1 Bed: $2,205-$2,875
1 Bed w/ Den: $2,605-$3,970
2 Bed: $3,370-$3,870
3 Bed: $5,596-$12,120

Seems in same chunk rent ballpark as AMLI Fountain Place, but they haven't released unit sizes yet so hard to directly comp. I think I'd side with Atelier as a better value to the renter at this point (knowing next to nothing about it) based solely on its proximity to the park. It seems like AMLI is trying to charge KWP frontage rents while being a decent hike away.

Worried Atelier has potential to be a long, drawn-out lease up. On the other hand, if they can actually achieve these rents investors should be flocking to other dev sites in the arts district.

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Postby DPatel304 » 01 Jul 2020 09:28

Thanks for sharing! For some reason I thought these were going to be condos.

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Postby rono3849 » 02 Jul 2020 19:48

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The Flora & Olive Tower continues to progress as the skin is added to the base of the tower. The white & glass exterior jumps off the skyline as it continues to climb. The tower is quite impressive from the street level on Flora Street.
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Postby rono3849 » 03 Jul 2020 20:58

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Additional photos of the Flora & Olive Tower show the progress of construction, which is moving along at a rapid pace.
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Postby Tnexster » 04 Jul 2020 11:34

I like the way this is turning out, very nice!

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Postby rono3849 » 07 Jul 2020 21:41

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The daily progress on this building is amazing. I think the tower's facade will be completed by mid-August, if not earlier.

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This white tower just jumps off the skyline. Nice addition to Downtown Dallas.
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Postby R1070 » 07 Jul 2020 23:25

We need a lot more infill buildings like this all around DT Dallas.

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Re: Arts District: Flora & Olive Tower (~441 FT / ~39 ST)

Postby Tucy » 08 Jul 2020 07:44

Are the artists lofts begin completed? We've never heard much about them since the initial announcement.


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