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Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

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ArtVandelay
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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby ArtVandelay » 24 Jan 2019 13:37

Me thinks they are not covering the Olive St. side with the glass.

If true, does that mean the residential is happening soon?

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 24 Jan 2019 14:26

ArtVandelay wrote:Me thinks they are not covering the Olive St. side with the glass.

If true, does that mean the residential is happening soon?


Or that they don't care when the residential happens and they're not going to incur more costs..

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby ArtVandelay » 25 Jan 2019 07:43

Tivo_Kenevil wrote:
ArtVandelay wrote:Me thinks they are not covering the Olive St. side with the glass.

If true, does that mean the residential is happening soon?


Or that they don't care when the residential happens and they're not going to incur more costs..


The pessimist in me thinks you’re spot on.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby Tivo_Kenevil » 25 Jan 2019 08:53

I'm afraid I'm correct as well.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby joshua.dodd » 26 Jan 2019 04:41

Fug...

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby R1070 » 27 Jan 2019 17:00

It doesn't make sense to cover that side if that side lot is to be developed at some point.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby CTroyMathis » 27 Jan 2019 17:43

Photos from the other day:
https://twitter.com/CTroyMathis/status/ ... 8897958912

(Ross, Harwood, and, San Jacinto sides.)

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby DPatel304 » 27 Jan 2019 20:39

R1070 wrote:It doesn't make sense to cover that side if that side lot is to be developed at some point.


I think I'd be more worried if they did decide to cover it. It would make me feel like the residential portion would never come, or come WAY down the line.

I suppose those two things are still a possibility, but leaving it uncovered gives me some more hope..haha.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby itsjrd1964 » 11 Feb 2019 14:43

OK, kids, not sure how believable this is, but... I just saw this posting on my Facebook page about Trammell Crow Center and the 2000 Ross block. Despite one commenter's post (and what we've all seen up to now with the site), someone representing Trammell Crow Center's FB account answers the guy back:

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And here's the link that TCC posted:
http://info.trammellcrowcenter.com/blog ... enter-2019

So, if this is true, why did all the big equipment get dismantled? I can't tell if there really is a but-wait-there's-more something to look forward to, or if the TCC FB account person has had a little too much of their kool-aid.
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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby exelone31 » 11 Feb 2019 15:10

Good find!

The person really just says there's "a lot more news", so the definition of that could be stretched depending on how optimistic you want to be.

I am hopeful that there could at least be some appealing retail.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby Kelley USA » 11 Feb 2019 15:13

Well, if they really are planning on adding the hotel and apartments then technically it could be cheaper to bring the crane down and then erect it again depending on the timeframe. Can't be 100% certain, but it generally cost about $50K to bring a crane down and then another $25k - $50K per month to rent it. So if they knew they weren't actually going to start until say Summer or Fall then it would make sense to bring it down.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby DPatel304 » 11 Feb 2019 15:16

Nice find! I'm still skeptical because of all the reasons you had stated, but looking forward to whatever they have to announce.

Truthfully, aside from the fact that we were lied to, I really have no problems with this type of development being done in phases. If the market can't support the apartments and hotel, that's fine, go ahead with the garage and retail (much better than an empty lot). As long as there are future plans to make this more than a garage, I'm completely fine with it.

The alternative would have been to not build anything at all and leave this an empty lot until they can justify the whole thing.

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby CTroyMathis » 11 Feb 2019 16:32

It will be unacceptable if TCC doesn't have their Peloton bikes on every floor exactly like these: https://twitter.com/ClueHeywood/status/ ... 2331217920

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Re: Downtown Dallas: 2000 Ross Project

Postby joshua.dodd » 11 Feb 2019 23:38

Nothing is going to happen. Trammell Crow is going to sit on this project for as long as they can until they know they're going to make money. Current economic indicators shows the housing, especially ultra-luxury, market is coming to a hard slowdown. I would place a safe bet that the number of new projects across the city will start to become less and less throughout the rest of the year. What we see going up now just might be the tail-end of the boom.

Parking garage demand will likely remain the same.


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