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Postby Cord1936 » 25 Jun 2017 12:29

Now almost three years into the oil plunge that started in November 2014, the new "normal" is clearly lower prices for oil that seem to struggle to stay in the lower $40 per barrel.

This new "normal" has significant ramifications for certain Texas regions that had hyper-growth for many, many years largely due to oil.

As a result, a distinct shift in power, money, and growth has occurred toward cities and regions with a much greater diversification of industry and commerce and with much less reliance on oil.
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OPEC Looks Totally Bewildered by the Oil Market
By Julian Lee, Bloomberg, June 25, 2017, 3:00AM EDT

It may be too soon to write OPEC's obituary, but the oil producer club appears in urgent need of late-life care. It shows little understanding of where it is, how it got there or where it's going. While it still manages to collect new members here and there, its core group looks more fragile than at any point in nearly 30 years.

The historic output agreements, put together so painstakingly last year, are failing. Nearly 12 months of shuttle diplomacy culminated in two deals that would see 22 countries cut production by nearly 1.8 million barrels a day. Implementation has been better than for any previous output cut, with compliance put at 106 percent in May. A resounding success? Hardly.

We're now in the final month of those deals and oil prices are lower than when they were agreed. Not only have producers sacrificed volume, but they earn less for each barrel they do produce.

full article: https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2017-06-25/opec-looks-totally-bewildered-by-the-oil-market
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Postby Cord1936 » 25 Jun 2017 12:34

Trump to Call for U.S. ‘Dominance’ in Global Energy Production
By Jennifer A Dlouhy, Bloomberg, June 25, 2017, 6:00 AM CDT

Donald Trump will tout surging U.S. exports of oil and natural gas during a week of events aimed at highlighting the country’s growing energy dominance.

The president also plans to emphasize that after decades of relying on foreign energy supplies, the U.S. is on the brink of becoming a net exporter of oil, gas, coal and other energy resources.

Full article: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-25/trump-to-call-for-u-s-dominance-in-global-energy-production

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Postby I45Tex » 28 Jun 2017 03:50

If you think the Middle East is a mess now, just wait till we knock its economy out from under it?

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Volvo to Phase Out Conventional Car Engine
Auto maker says all new Volvo models from 2019 will be fully electric or a hybrid

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Volvo plans to phase out the conventional car engine, with all new Volvo models from 2019 to be either fully electic or a hybrid. PHOTO: HEINZ-PETER BADER/REUTERS

By William Boston, The Wall Street Journal, July 5, 2017 12:00 a.m. ET

Article: https://www.wsj.com/articles/volvo-to-phase-out-conventional-car-engine-1499227202

This type of shift is going to start creating pressure on traditional oil companies future revenue streams ... not overnight of course, but as the electric and hybrid solutions start proliferating the impact will start to be felt.

This is an "old school" mainstream automaker who is ditching the conventional combustion engine in a dramatic change that is only 2 years away ... will other car makers follow?
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Postby tamtagon » 05 Jul 2017 08:38

I45Tex wrote:If you think the Middle East is a mess now, just wait till we knock its economy out from under it?


Maybe a less lop-sided trade situation will allow women to be more people and less property....

There's plenty of uses for oil and gas besides car fuel. But if something better comes along, the oil kings in Texas are more than foolish if they try to keep the state's industry artificially relevant. Invent a better battery, but don't politically prolong the death spiral of fossil fuels.

Natural Gas power plants will probably emerge as the dominant supplier of industrial energy. Pollution is much more effectively controlled, and power is almost on demand.

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Postby Cord1936 » 05 Jul 2017 12:16

tamtagon wrote:
There's plenty of uses for oil and gas besides car fuel. But if something better comes along, the oil kings in Texas are more than foolish if they try to keep the state's industry artificially relevant. Invent a better battery, but don't politically prolong the death spiral of fossil fuels.


While true, the majority of oil production does still go to gasoline. According to these statistics from two years ago 51.4% of oil is used for gasoline production.

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Article: https://www.quora.com/How-much-of-the-oil-production-is-consumed-by-cars

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Postby Cord1936 » 06 Jul 2017 15:05

France Plans to End Sales of Gas and Diesel Cars by 2040
By JACK EWING, JULY 6, 2017, The New York Times

France is joining a growing movement to force the extinction of vehicles that run on fossil fuels, saying on Thursday that it would aim to end the sale of gasoline and diesel cars by 2040.

The target is less ambitious than ones set by countries like Norway and India. Still, coming from a major car-producing country, France’s declaration gave additional momentum to efforts to fight climate change and urban smog by promoting the use of electric cars.

The timing of the announcement was also significant, a day after the automaker Volvo said it would phase out the internal combustion engine, and during a visit to Europe by President Trump.
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Full article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/business/energy-environment/france-cars-ban-gas-diesel.html

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Postby Cord1936 » 06 Jul 2017 15:11

Oil Exports, Illegal for Decades, Now Fuel a Texas Port Boom
Crude from West Texas shale fields is increasingly making its way abroad
as a pipeline system is expanded to take it to market through Corpus Christi.


By CLIFFORD KRAUSS, JULY 5, 2017, The New York Times

CORPUS CHRISTI, Tex. — In a twist that would have been unthinkable only two years ago, the oil tanker that arrives in China today may be carrying crude that left the South Texas port of Corpus Christi instead of Saudi Arabia.

Chinese drivers most certainly don’t care where their fuel comes from, but the export of American crude oil to dozens of countries over the last year is the latest chapter in a remarkable turnaround for the American oil and gas industry, about the only good news in three years of plummeting commodity prices, bankruptcies and layoffs.
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Full article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/business/energy-environment/oil-exports-corpus-christi-texas.html

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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... t=20170706

France Plans To Ban Sale Of Diesel And Gas Vehicles By 2040
July 6, 2017
AMY HELD

As part of a set of ambitious new environmental goals, France expects to do away entirely with the sale of diesel and gas vehicles by 2040.

...He admitted that doing away with the sale of all fossil-fuel-powered cars in the world's sixth-biggest economy would be challenging, even to the point of constituting a "revolution," but he said French carmakers would be up to the task, according to Reuters.


The ability to extract petroleum for gasoline may not matter. Fretting over just how much oil is left and where in the world it is may finally begin to matter less and less.

If it got to the point that very impressive research and technology by oil companies figured out a way to inject proprietary blends of carcinogenic water into the deep earth so oil will float through porous rock, sucked to the surface for gasoline, why are we still waiting for auto manufacturers to come up with a new engine that doesn't use gasoline?

It's a dinosaur act.

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Postby Cord1936 » 07 Jul 2017 14:52

It's bad news for oil when Volvo goes electric
By Chris Tomlinson, Houston Chronicle, July 6, 2017

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Yes, adoption of hybrid and electric vehicles is happening faster than CEOs at major, legacy automakers could have imagined. And while low gasoline prices in the United States have discouraged Americans from buying more fuel efficient cars, the rest of the world is moving toward electric power.

Volkswagen, another European car maker that eschewed the new engine types, announced plans to phase out the internal combustion engine. The company will roll out two SUVs, a sedan and a hatchback that are battery powered in 2019.

As Tesla begins delivering its Model 3 to customers, and has back-orders through the end of 2018, 2019 looks like it will be a breakthrough year for electric vehicles.

Six new models have been announced for 2019, including long-range cars from Audi, BMW, Jaguar, and Mercedes-Benz.

Automakers are not producing these cars for the U.S. market, though, which is why we won't see this transition as early as other nations. The real market for electric cars is China, where the government is offering the middle class generous subsidies and incentives to buy electric.
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Lower Chinese demand for crude is bad news for oil companies, since most are relying on growing demand in China to keep afloat as demand in the U.S. and Europe continues to remain static or fall. China also is manufacturing 10 low-cost electric cars that can be exported to poor countries, another pillar of future demand for oil.

UBS, a financial services company, predicts that electric vehicles will start reducing gasoline demand no later than 2031. Admittedly, hybrid and electric vehicles are only 1 percent of cars produced today, but some estimate they will be 30 percent of new cars produced in 2030.
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Since the customer is always right, the market is responding to this change. And the transformation is likely to accelerate in ways that we can't yet imagine.

Full Article: http://www.houstonchronicle.com/busines ... mpid=btfpm
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Postby DPatel304 » 07 Jul 2017 14:59

None of this is surprising, but I'm not concerned at all for North Texas. We are pretty diversified at the moment, and that doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. The Oil&Gas industry has been in a slump for a while, and it hasn't hurt us all that much. Houston has been hit pretty hard, but hopefully they can find a way to recover.

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Postby Cord1936 » 13 Jul 2017 20:54

DPatel304 wrote:None of this is surprising, but I'm not concerned at all for North Texas. We are pretty diversified at the moment, and that doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. The Oil&Gas industry has been in a slump for a while, and it hasn't hurt us all that much. Houston has been hit pretty hard, but hopefully they can find a way to recover.

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Totally agree .. whatever pain the oil downturn was going to cause Dallas has already happened ... which has been minimal. Ft. Worth has been more negatively affected as it has a greater Oil & Gas dependence.

The Dallas-Plano-Irving metro's enormous diversification has kept it soaring during the downturn.

A new article in today's Houston Chronicle talks about this downturn in historical perspectives as well as looking out to the next few years:

Oil bosses see more pain as price recovery slips to 2020
Rakteem Katakey, Bloomberg, Published 6:29 am, Thursday, July 13, 2017

Basic takeaways from the article:

3 years into the biggest oil downturn in a generation, industry oil bosses see the recovery slipping further from view ...

Could easily take until end of decade for better times to return ...

In terms of magnitude of damage this is by far the worst industry downturn ...

Lower for longer is new normal, the years of $100 oil will turn out to be an aberration with the "new normal" having emerged ...

Full article: http://www.chron.com/business/energy/article/Oil-Bosses-See-More-Pain-as-Price-Recovery-Slips-11285718.php

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Postby DPatel304 » 14 Jul 2017 01:27

Cord1936 wrote:Totally agree .. whatever pain the oil downturn was going to cause Dallas has already happened ... which has been minimal. Ft. Worth has been more negatively affected as it has a greater Oil & Gas dependence.

The Dallas-Plano-Irving metro's enormous diversification has kept it soaring during the downturn.


Honestly, I'd say this may have actually helped DFW in a weird way. Before the downturn, it seemed like Houston was our biggest competitor (in Texas) and we were basically neck and neck with them (they may have actually been ahead, depending on what you're measuring). Texas was booming, and people all over the nation were eyeing Houston, DFW, Austin, and San Antonio. Now, Texas is still booming, but Houston doesn't exactly have the same appeal as it did a few years ago, and it doesn't help that the near future doesn't look all that hot. Seeing as how they were our closest competitor, this, by default, puts DFW in the clear front runner seat as far as Texas goes.

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Postby Cord1936 » 17 Jul 2017 12:45

DPatel304 wrote:Honestly, I'd say this may have actually helped DFW in a weird way. Before the downturn, it seemed like Houston was our biggest competitor (in Texas) and we were basically neck and neck with them (they may have actually been ahead, depending on what you're measuring). Texas was booming, and people all over the nation were eyeing Houston, DFW, Austin, and San Antonio. Now, Texas is still booming, but Houston doesn't exactly have the same appeal as it did a few years ago, and it doesn't help that the near future doesn't look all that hot. Seeing as how they were our closest competitor, this, by default, puts DFW in the clear front runner seat as far as Texas goes.

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This is how bad it has gotten in Houston's office market as a result of the oil downturn (from a couple of very recent articles):

Houston Office Occupancy Hits Lowest Point Since 1999, NAI Reports
RealtyNewsReport.com, 07-12-17

Summary:
* Houston office occupancy has dipped to its lowest point in more than 18 years
* The woes of Houston’s office market stem from the retraction in the energy industry
* Direct occupancy slipped to 79.5% at end of 2Q17,
* Sublease space still totals 11 MSF down from peek of 12 MSF reached in 2016
* Some 2 MSF of additional sublease space will hit market in next two years

Article: http://realtynewsreport.com/2017/07/12/houston-office-occupancy-hits-lowest-point-since-1999-nai-report/

In Houston real estate, home sales soar even as office glut worsens
By Nancy Sarnoff and Dylan Baddour, Houston Chronicle, July 12, 2017

Summary:
* Houston office glut worsens as economic trauma in the region's signature energy industry continues to haunt office market, pushing the local vacancy rate higher than it's been in decades
* Landlords are doling out generous concessions in an increasingly desperate bid to reel in tenants
* After 10 quarters of rising vacancy the direct vacancy rate stands at 20.5% at end of 2Q17
* Factor in sublease space and the vacancy rate is greater than 26%

Article: http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/In-Houston-real-estate-home-sales-soar-even-as-11284812.php?cmpid=btfpm

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Postby muncien » 19 Jul 2017 14:33

Interestingly enough... I was riding the train (Amtrak... yes, people actually do ride it) across western Colorado last week, and the National Park Ranger who was giving the trails & rails presentation explained that over the last few months, many of the fracking wells that were closed down years ago as oil tanked are now seeing a flurry of activity again. Apparently, they have gotten the process down to a manageable cost that even with oil prices where it is today, they can make a profit. There was evidence all around... shale was about to boom once again. I'm thinking the oil industry still has some run in it for the near future. It's the middle east and Russia who are more to suffer by what now appears to be a low/stable oil price.
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muncien wrote:Interestingly enough... I was riding the train (Amtrak... yes, people actually do ride it) across western Colorado last week, and the National Park Ranger who was giving the trails & rails presentation explained that over the last few months, many of the fracking wells that were closed down years ago as oil tanked are now seeing a flurry of activity again. Apparently, they have gotten the process down to a manageable cost that even with oil prices where it is today, they can make a profit. There was evidence all around... shale was about to boom once again. I'm thinking the oil industry still has some run in it for the near future. It's the middle east and Russia who are more to suffer by what now appears to be a low/stable oil price.


This is true, hear it all the time. I believe the breakeven price is down in the low to mid 40's now. A price that is good for consumers and really bad for OPEC. The price of oil is more than likely down to stay, too much supply and rapidly emerging alternatives.

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Postby Cord1936 » 27 Jul 2017 16:44

Another European country moving toward banning traditional combustion engines ... this time England with a goal of 2040.

Britain to ban sale of all diesel and petrol cars and vans from 2040
Plans follow French commitment to take polluting vehicles off the road owing to effect of poor air quality on people’s health

Anushka Asthana and Matthew Taylor, The Guardian, Tuesday 25 July 2017 17.38 EDT

Article: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/25/britain-to-ban-sale-of-all-diesel-and-petrol-cars-and-vans-from-2040

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Cord1936 wrote:Another European country moving toward banning traditional combustion engines ... this time England with a goal of 2040.

Britain to ban sale of all diesel and petrol cars and vans from 2040
Plans follow French commitment to take polluting vehicles off the road owing to effect of poor air quality on people’s health

Anushka Asthana and Matthew Taylor, The Guardian, Tuesday 25 July 2017 17.38 EDT

Article: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/25/britain-to-ban-sale-of-all-diesel-and-petrol-cars-and-vans-from-2040



This is nothing in comparison to what China intends to do. China basically forced Toyota to ditch their focus Hydrogen Fuel Cell technology and focus on electric.

This is impressive since Toyota was basically the only major auto manufacturer holding out on EV technology.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-toyo ... SKBN1A7050


"Keen to combat air pollution, China is planning to set goals for electric and plug-in hybrid cars to make up at least a fifth of Chinese auto sales by 2025, with a staggered system of quotas beginning in 2018."

That's a lot a EV cars.

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Postby Cord1936 » 04 Aug 2017 18:37

^^^^^^^
The following article is in keeping with what you posted:

OPEC's Existential Sucker Punch
by Julian Lee, July 30, 2017 3:00 AM EDT, Bloomberg

Quotes:

"You wait decades for an existential crisis, then two come along at once. At least that's how it must feel for OPEC's beleaguered ministers. In the short term the market for their oil is being eroded by rising production outside their control. Looking further ahead, oil demand itself is under threat from the electrification of road transport. OPEC may not yet be dead, but its days are surely numbered.

The most obvious short-term existential threat to the group comes from the rapid rise in U.S. shale oil, but the risks have expanded to include other areas like Brazil's prolific sub-salt discoveries and more recent finds further north along the east coast of South America."
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"Van Beurden also articulated the second existential threat, when he said in an interview with Bloomberg TV not only that his next car would be electric, but that he could see demand for liquid fuels peaking in the 2030s.

A political trend towards growing electrification of transport poses a real, long-term problem. Nobody in their right mind is suggesting that oil is suddenly going to stop being the world's transport fuel of choice, but its market share will come under increasing pressure. Four countries in Europe have now proposed bans on the sale of gasoline and diesel-fueled cars by 2040 at the latest. Between them they account for around a third of all the passenger vehicles in use in Europe."
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"Rapidly falling battery costs will make electric vehicles as affordable as their gasoline or diesel rivals over the next 10 years, according to Bloomberg New Energy Finance."

Full article: https://www.bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2017-07-30/electric-cars-run-over-opec-in-new-existential-crisis

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Postby Cord1936 » 06 Aug 2017 21:33

Saudi Arabia's plans to move past its dependence on oil to keep its economy from crashing:

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Saudi Arabia Builds Cities in the Sand to Take Economy Past Oil
By Sarah Algethami, August 6, 2017, 4:00 PM CDT, Bloomberg LP

After relying on oil to fuel its economy for more than half a century, Saudi Arabia is turning to its other abundant natural resource to take it beyond the oil age -- desert. The kingdom is converting thousands of square kilometers of sand into new cities as it seeks to diversify away from crude, create jobs and boost investment.

In the past month alone, the world’s biggest oil exporter has announced two major developments -- one covering an area bigger than Belgium and another that will include an airport and shipping port. That’s on top of plans to build a series of so-called economic cities -- special zones in logistics, tourism, industry and finance, an entertainment city and a $10 billion financial district.

“The overall progress with the economic cities has been very slow, even before the collapse of the oil price,” said Monica Malik, chief economist at Abu Dhabi Commercial Bank PJSC. “Since then, the pace of development has moderated even further with a number of projects being placed on hold.”

When the “Saudi Vision 2030” was announced last April, the 84-page blueprint said the government would work to “salvage” and “revamp” economic city projects executed over the past decade that “did not realize their potential.”

Here’s a look at some of Saudi Arabia’s biggest projects:

Full article: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-06/saudi-arabia-builds-cities-in-the-sand-to-take-economy-past-oil

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Postby tamtagon » 06 Aug 2017 22:59

What is Texas doing to take the economy past oil?

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Postby Jay9398 » 07 Aug 2017 09:29

tamtagon wrote:What is Texas doing to take the economy past oil?


They don't have time for that right now. They've got to protect the womenfolk from non-existent threats in the potty.

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Kinda reminds me of the Catholics and the Middle Ages.

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So... Our inspiration should come from a country where women aren't allowed to drive? huh?
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Those names are horrible.

Also, never read Dave Egger's book Hologram for a King. It's set in King Abdullah Economic City. Worst book I've ever read.

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Postby Alex Rodriguez » 07 Aug 2017 15:52

tamtagon wrote:What is Texas doing to take the economy past oil?


Texas is far and away the biggest Wind Energy producer in the U.S., would be 5th in the world if it was an independent nation. Texas has a huge, growing Tech industry. Corporate HQ presence. Not sure what more Texas can do to diversify...but yay for Shale, just one more win for the Lone Star State.

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Postby tamtagon » 08 Aug 2017 10:50

It's just a whole lotta money from the oil industry. Why is the overall tax burden so low in Texas? Because the state's governments collect so much money from extraction of fossil fuel products.

Texas may be the biggest wind energy producer, but that amount of energy is tiny compared to the amount of energy that comes from the state's fossil fuels... and the amount of revenue generated by wind is tiny compared to the amount of revenue that comes from fossil fuels.

When we as a culture finally acknowledge that our quality of life will increase exponentially when we stop living in the pollution generated by fossil fuels, the state of Texas will have a huge revenue hole to plug.

There's no reason to start a transition now, while the oil/gas money is still flowing.

Texas' state and local budgets got $26M a day from oil industry in 2016 — and that's low

Jeff Mosier

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/ene ... t-year-low

A report released this morning from the Texas Oil and Gas Association calculated the extraordinary amount of government money generated by the industry. Oil and gas pumped $9.4 billion into government budgets through taxes and royalties in 2016

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Postby tamtagon » 22 Mar 2018 09:35

tamtagon wrote:What is Texas doing to take the economy past oil?


Somebody in Fort Worth really ought to be looking into this sinkhole thing out in West Texas...

https://phys.org/news/2018-03-radar-ima ... texas.html

I think the Barnett Shale is mostly tapped out, but if it gets going again through another round of "technological" innovations, earthquakes might not be the only side effect of trying to frack our way to energy independence. So, who's going to pick up the tab for the eventual damage caused by fracking? By the time the carcinogenic extraction brews reach up the food chain and start making people sick, and by the time sinkholes, uplifts, and/or earthquakes cause property damage the precipitating oil companies activity will be long and/or will have put up a legal maze of subterfuge that'll take a decades to navigate.

Just saying....

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Postby Haretip » 27 Mar 2018 16:08

The sinkholes in Winkler County are a product of dissolving salt layers. To get similar sinkholes here, we would have to have a soluble strata of salt.
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Postby tamtagon » 27 Mar 2018 19:38

If it's not one thing, it's another. Flaming water spigot is good at parties!

We ought to see some phenomenal growth in Corpus Christi, especially if the extractors can get the natural gas piped there.

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Postby Tnexster » 07 May 2018 20:36

Here's why drillers may pump even more oil out of Permian Basin, the biggest U.S. oilfield

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/ene ... s-oilfield

The Permian Basin's stacked layers of oil-laden rock under the west Texas and New Mexico dirt are already so productive they've stymied efforts by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries to reduce supply, and brought the U.S. closer to energy independence. The field produces 3.2 million barrels a day, more than OPEC member Kuwait.

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Postby Tnexster » 19 Jun 2019 20:36

Texas' most dynamic economy isn't in Dallas, Houston or even Austin

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/eco ... ven-austin