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Re: Silver Line

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 28 Dec 2020 16:35

Plano receives 16,000 feet of additional rail for DART Silver Line construction

Sixteen thousand feet of rail — 200 sections, each one 80 feet long — recently arrived in Plano for DART’s Silver.

The rails were delivered Dec. 18 on a special train from Steel Dynamics of Indiana to an area east of Shiloh Road, according to the city.

The shipment is in addition to 1,600-foot sections of rail that were delivered in November.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/transpo ... struction/

So at at one press release per 1,600 feet for 26 miles it looks like we have another 84 press releases to go....

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Re: Silver Line

Postby Tucy » 29 Dec 2020 10:50

Hannibal Lecter wrote:Plano receives 16,000 feet of additional rail for DART Silver Line construction

Sixteen thousand feet of rail — 200 sections, each one 80 feet long — recently arrived in Plano for DART’s Silver.

The rails were delivered Dec. 18 on a special train from Steel Dynamics of Indiana to an area east of Shiloh Road, according to the city.

The shipment is in addition to 1,600-foot sections of rail that were delivered in November.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/transpo ... struction/

So at at one press release per 1,600 feet for 26 miles it looks like we have another 84 press releases to go....


LOL Slow news month?

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Re: Silver Line

Postby CTroyMathis » 29 Dec 2020 16:16

Seriously, lol.
But, meanwhile e.g. Addison, pops in the FAA files for a ridiculous number of requests for very small height requests for construction of the line. So, maybe the News can have something to go with as a change-up.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby TNWE » 07 Jan 2021 11:41

Hannibal Lecter wrote:Plano receives 16,000 feet of additional rail for DART Silver Line construction

Sixteen thousand feet of rail — 200 sections, each one 80 feet long — recently arrived in Plano for DART’s Silver.

The rails were delivered Dec. 18 on a special train from Steel Dynamics of Indiana to an area east of Shiloh Road, according to the city.

The shipment is in addition to 1,600-foot sections of rail that were delivered in November.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/transpo ... struction/

So at at one press release per 1,600 feet for 26 miles it looks like we have another 84 press releases to go....


oh god kill me now :?

I'm sure that DART has experienced and competent engineers and designers working on the project are, but their public relations/media people are...yikes. I've seen middle schoolers give better presentations that DART staff...

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Re: Silver Line

Postby itsjrd1964 » 28 Apr 2021 03:21

Plano City Council OKs permits to allow DART transit stations along 12th Street

https://communityimpact.com/dallas-fort ... th-street/

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Re: Silver Line

Postby Redblock » 28 Apr 2021 11:28

itsjrd1964 wrote:Plano City Council OKs permits to allow DART transit stations along 12th Street

https://communityimpact.com/dallas-fort ... th-street/


So, the 12th Street light rail station will be Dart's first elevated station with side platforms. A center platform would have required rebuilding one of the bridges to make room for a center platform.

The stranger idea is to place the Silver Line station at K Ave., a block east of the light rail station. I do not see many transfers here since the tracks will be adjacent at the Bush Station.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby TNWE » 28 Apr 2021 13:34

Redblock wrote:
itsjrd1964 wrote:Plano City Council OKs permits to allow DART transit stations along 12th Street

https://communityimpact.com/dallas-fort ... th-street/


So, the 12th Street light rail station will be Dart's first elevated station with side platforms. A center platform would have required rebuilding one of the bridges to make room for a center platform.

The stranger idea is to place the Silver Line station at K Ave., a block east of the light rail station. I do not see many transfers here since the tracks will be adjacent at the Bush Station.


Pipe dream, I know, but since they were already adding side platforms, it would have been cool to see an "Express/Local" layout with another set of tracks that would allow some express trains to bypass this station and leapfrog local trains, which could have a longer layover at 12th street to reduce the likelihood of missed Red <-> Silver connections.

This would of course require a larger program of station expansion to build additional "leapfrog" points (probably at LBJ Central and Lovers Lane, but I'd need to look at timetables/travel time/speed limits to be sure), so express trains can actually have a travel time advantage over driving on US75.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby Redblock » 04 Jun 2021 09:54

DART has released the June-August Silver Line Update. The interesting part is the 90 day construction schedules for the various cities. Scroll below the map in the link below and tap the different cities for a schedule grid for the quarter.

In short, by the end of August all the stations will be in some level of construction and many of the bridges/overpasses will begin construction.

https://www.dart.org/about/expansion/si ... nstruction

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Re: Silver Line

Postby exelone31 » 04 Jun 2021 10:36

I'll be curious to see what the ridership looks like for the UTD station. UTD is a heavy user of DART buses, but that's more for the immediate area. I wonder if there will be similar demand for larger trips.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby The_Overdog » 07 Jun 2021 09:17

They have blocked off the bicycle path that will form the path for the Central Expressway and river crossing at G Bush and Alma and have heavy equipment on site. The bike path will be moved to the south, close to the apartments, at some point.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby Addison » 13 Jul 2021 12:49

Per DMN, Silver Line opening has been pushed back (again) to 2024. Not sure why, because the article's behind a paywall.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby Addison » 13 Jul 2021 12:58

Addison wrote:Per DMN, Silver Line opening has been pushed back (again) to 2024. Not sure why, because the article's behind a paywall.


CTroyMathis helped me get access to the article.

So it's nothing drastic or unusual. They're making minor design changes based on resident feedback, and they also had some minor issuss with land acquisition as well as agreements with freight operators.
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Re: Silver Line

Postby exelone31 » 13 Jul 2021 15:34

Came here expecting to hear that another batch of rail was delivered...boo!!

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Re: Silver Line

Postby CTroyMathis » 13 Jul 2021 17:00

^El oh el.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby OrangeMike » 13 Jul 2021 19:03

DART has a bridge to sell you. For $1.

https://dartdaily.dart.org/posts/post/f ... las-county

Near Keller Springs Park: 32.965700, -96.810881

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Re: Silver Line

Postby northsouth » 13 Jul 2021 19:34

OrangeMike wrote:DART has a bridge to sell you. For $1.

https://dartdaily.dart.org/posts/post/f ... las-county

Near Keller Springs Park: 32.965700, -96.810881


I thought the plan was to move the old bridge over a few feet and convert it to pedestrian use? So much for that I guess.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 14 Jul 2021 10:40

northsouth wrote:I thought the plan was to move the old bridge over a few feet and convert it to pedestrian use? So much for that I guess.


Someone asked about that. The DART rep said they couldn't do that because it was too narrow for emergency vehicles.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby soco » 15 Jul 2021 14:58

I'm working on the trail portion of this project and the old bridge was too narrow to be used as multi-use trail without significant structural modification. The intent was to reuse it but after looking at different options it was determined it needs to be replaced with a new, wider bridge.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby The_Overdog » 23 Aug 2021 13:11

DART has some equipment on-site and some bare dirt pads on each side of US 75 where the Silver Line rail bridge will pass over US75.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby itsjrd1964 » 27 Oct 2021 15:43

The_Overdog wrote:DART has some equipment on-site and some bare dirt pads on each side of US 75 where the Silver Line rail bridge will pass over US75.


There's not as much visible on the west side of US 75, but much more can be seen to the east. Several bridge support pillars are in the process of being placed there. The 2 pictures show the bridge pillar work east of US 75 and west of the CityLine/Bush station. (That station has dirt work ongoing for its part of the Silver Line, but I wasn't able to get a good pic there--hopefully I can try again soon.)
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Re: Silver Line

Postby itsjrd1964 » 17 Apr 2022 04:15

Dallas city manager calls for enhanced safety measures for DART's new silver line

https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas-ci ... ilver-line

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Re: Silver Line

Postby potatocoins » 18 Apr 2022 09:59

itsjrd1964 wrote:Dallas city manager calls for enhanced safety measures for DART's new silver line

https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas-ci ... ilver-line


That's good to hear. It seems like there is an effort to try and change the negative perceptions of DART with this new Silver line. Increased security measures, and they are really leaning into the "Silver Line" branding rather than just calling it another DART rail line.

Hopefully it works and more people start getting introduced to DART via this new line.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby Addison » 18 Apr 2022 12:54

itsjrd1964 wrote:Dallas city manager calls for enhanced safety measures for DART's new silver line

https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas-ci ... ilver-line


First of all, this should have been brought up during the planning phase, not when the project is already half way done. The projected completion has already been delayed twice, and this will only delay it further (making it more expensive).

Second, all Cara Mendelsohn has been doing is making bad faith arguments in an effort to stop the Silver Line from being built altogether. Her constituents built/bought homes in this part of the city knowing darn well a rail line cut through the middle of it, plans were in the works to convert it to passsnger use and it was just as dagerous to pedestrians when it only served freight carts. If she was so concerned about pedestrian safety as she claims, she would be fighting equally as hard for improved sidewalks, bike lanes, upzoning and road diets in her district (spoiler: she's not).

The fact that her so-called concerns are being taking seriously by top officials in Dallas government is exactly why progress in this city seems so elusive.
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Re: Silver Line

Postby The_Overdog » 18 Apr 2022 13:10

She is right that the ridership numbers are terrible because the station locations aren't great, and the line is really jumping the line in terms of priority, but that ship sailed, and there are already railroad tracks at Meandering Way in far North Dallas, even if they are disused, so it should be a surprise to no-one that trains might run again someday through this corridor.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby Addison » 18 Apr 2022 13:22

The_Overdog wrote:She is right that the ridership numbers are terrible because the station locations aren't great...


And that was also (in part) because of Cara Mendelsohn, who played a role in actively shooting down all the proposed stations along the line out of irrational fear of "increased crime."

But even the subject of ridership has nothing to do with pedestrian safety. It's a red herring.

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Re: Silver Line

Postby flyswatter » 18 Apr 2022 15:46

DART should just do what TEXRail did with Colleyville. Fine, no stop for you, but we will still use the rail. These people act like the average human doesn't know what to do when a train is coming. Not like this is the first place in the country with a commuter rail crossing in a residential area.

Colleyville housing prices are doing ok. If these people are so scared about trains, they can sell the house in a day with the current market and move to Prosper. NIMBYs trigger me lol

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Re: Silver Line

Postby itsjrd1964 » 28 Apr 2022 15:51

Closures planned for Central Expressway in Richardson until late July

The HOV lanes on 75-Central north of Galatyn Pkwy. and south of Plano Pkwy. will close each Friday and Saturday overnight through July to build pillars for the upcoming Silver Line bridge.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/traffic/ri ... 86edc7370a