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DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Hannibal Lecter » 26 Feb 2020 15:59

Cbdallas wrote:Southwest and American AA sent out memos to all employees to go online and vote against.


I very much doubt this. Both airlines' current public position is that it they have no position. Quite frankly, Dallas-Houston is a small market for Southwest these days. The vast majority of AA's passengers between the two cities is connecting traffic, which wouldn't be affected by a train.

Why would either airline risk the bad publicity if such a memo got out -- which it would -- over a completely meaningless "survey" about something that would have little effect on them?

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Cbdallas » 26 Feb 2020 16:32

I was being facetious. I was puzzled why a survey in a very pro business site would skew against this project.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby tamtagon » 26 Feb 2020 16:33

I voted in that unscientific poll five time, from five different computers.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby cowboyeagle05 » 27 Feb 2020 10:11

I tried but every time I tried to vote the page would just reload without counting my vote. Obviously a poll we should rely on for scientific data gathering.
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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Tucy » 27 Feb 2020 11:10

Back in the early 90s when there was an earlier push to get high-speed rail in the Texas triangle, Southwest Airlines (and only Southwest, not Continental or American, fought it VERY hard. Short-haul, intra-Texas service was still Southwest's bread and butter at the time; now, not so much. My understanding is that none of them care very much one way or the other about the HSR project now.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Alex Rodriguez » 27 Feb 2020 14:36

Tucy wrote:Back in the early 90s when there was an earlier push to get high-speed rail in the Texas triangle, Southwest Airlines (and only Southwest, not Continental or American, fought it VERY hard. Short-haul, intra-Texas service was still Southwest's bread and butter at the time; now, not so much. My understanding is that none of them care very much one way or the other about the HSR project now.


That is 100% correct.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Tnexster » 28 Feb 2020 13:22

I can't imagine they would, and it's not like the HSR operation is going to significantly impact air service between Dallas and Houston. Traffic between the two metros will continue to grow between now and the day it opens and will still continue to grow after it opens. This is just one more option for people to take advantage of.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby tamtagon » 28 Feb 2020 15:54

By the time it's open, the two population centers will have grown by a combined one million residents. by the time the train is up and running, it will be time to double the service. Is there any hope the I-35 redo through Austin will give some room for HSR?

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby electricron » 29 Feb 2020 01:31

tamtagon wrote:By the time it's open, the two population centers will have grown by a combined one million residents. by the time the train is up and running, it will be time to double the service. Is there any hope the I-35 redo through Austin will give some room for HSR?

There is not room for express-managed-hov lanes without tunneling them under the regular lanes which are under the service roads in Austin - where do you think they can place double track HSR line?
If they were capable of building a HSR line within the I-35 corridor, where would you place the HSR train station? The HSR train will be placing its Houston train station at Loop 610 and US290, five miles or more away from downtown Houston. Is there anywhere closer in Austin for a HSR train station?
I do not think so..... :(

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby mhainli » 29 Feb 2020 10:25

The devil is in the details on getting a HSR type corridor through Austin for a HSR station downtown. Until it’s studied in detail (Environmental Impact Statement) with cost and many other factors considered it would be hard to say now. IH-35 might indeed be very difficult but perhaps another corridor is doable.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Redblock » 08 May 2020 16:51

Court says Texas Central is a railroad.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/t ... o-16918221

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Redblock » 08 May 2020 16:52

Court says Texas Central is a railroad.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/t ... o-16918221

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Tnexster » 10 Jun 2020 22:16

Well, they laid off the overwhelming majority of their staff in early March so have been operating with a skeleton crew since then. Not sure what that means going forward.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Tnexster » 13 Jun 2020 11:22

Texas Central's high-speed rail project 'could require some stimulus money,' CEO says

https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news ... money.html

The company, which is developing a multibillion-dollar high-speed rail line that could connect Dallas and Houston via a 90-minute train ride, laid off 28 employees in March and watched as the pandemic roiled global financial markets it hoped to tap for financing.

Texas Central is evaluating other means of financing besides private equity, according to an April 8 letter sent from Drayton McLane, Jr. — Texas Central chairman and an investor in the project — to Texas State Sen. Robert Nichols. The Dallas Business Journal obtained a copy of the letter, which can be seen here.

McLane gave an update on the project to Nichols, saying it's "turned into a $30B project and we have certainly hit a snag with all the difficulties of the Corona Virus."

"We feel that between Japanese government funding and the monies we hope to receive from President Trump's infrastructure stimulus through the Department of Transportation, along with private equity that the project still has a great opportunity, is viable and can be construction ready this year," McLane added.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby exelone31 » 15 Jun 2020 09:08

Which one gets built first (or ever): This rail line, or some semblance of a Trinity River Park?

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby homeworld1031tx » 15 Jun 2020 11:25

This thing is such a joke. Spend a billion dollars on creating a 'shuttle' like aircraft service between Love and Hobby (hell, spend an extra billion to build a special terminal at each airport to handle the unique traffic and low security needs) and then spend the left over $28 billion on solar panels and wind turbines. Boom, you've just offset the co2 emissions from those flights by probably 1000x.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby eddieg1 » 19 Jul 2020 16:11

Dallas-to-Houston high-speed rail project just got easier to build, but hurdles still remain

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/dalla ... 1c9ba3e57b

A new decision doesn't clear the way entirely for Texas Central to make its high-speed rail line a reality, but represents a major hurdle the company has overcome.
Texas Central won a key ruling Thursday that will make it easier to build the proposed high-speed rail line between Dallas and Houston, but hurdles remain before construction can begin.
The Surface Transportation Board, which oversees regulation of various modes of transportation, primarily freight rail, in addition to some passenger rail, reversed a prior decision, and will now take jurisdiction over the project.

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Cbdallas » 20 Jul 2020 12:05

So does Houston have a plan to provide a connection the their light rail system or will you just come out of the station and have to take uber or a car to get into the urban core of the city?

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Re: DALLAS to HOUSTON High Speed Rail

Postby Tucy » 20 Jul 2020 14:05

Cbdallas wrote:So does Houston have a plan to provide a connection the their light rail system or will you just come out of the station and have to take uber or a car to get into the urban core of the city?


I believe Houston passed a new transit plan that is slated to provide BRT service from the HSR station to both Downtown and Uptown/Galleria areas.


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