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3099 Olive Street

Urbanizer posted this over on Skyscraper Page

https://munozalbin.com/project/victory-plaza/

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Cinepolis is pricey but where I live most of the year, we almost always see movies at Cinepolis or The Lot (a comparable luxury theater chain) because those places are a really convenient/fun/easy family night out.

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^^ I'm looking forward to giving this a try, hopefully in the next few weeks!

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You're right about that. I wonder though if this is going to be multiple smaller buildings, rather than a single 30+ story tower.

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It is surprising that they would jack the rent up, especially considering the number of concepts that have failed in this spot. Mesero seemed like the first since the days of Cuba Libre to make a bit of headway. It was my go-to date spot too! That's a bummer! That was my go-to TexMex spot and a see...

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I'd give it a try. It's not The Mansion or anything, but it's a fine spot to have a bite/drink before a game. Are the drinks better than the Bowen house? So I take it this will be a Mexican or Latin concept? I hope it's a success. Wonder what they'll do w parking. I've only been to the Bowen House ...

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vman wrote:
Tucy wrote:
Matt777 wrote:

Uhhhh, you're more than welcome to do some research yourself if you're doubtful of Matt777's info.

There's that, but it was bizarre to ask for a source for a statement which was a person's opinion to begin with. Matt's original statement was clearly editorial.

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I'd give it a try. It's not The Mansion or anything, but it's a fine spot to have a bite/drink before a game.

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DPatel304 wrote:Nice find! I think someone had previously speculated it would be a restaurant, so this doesn't surprise me too much. I'm sure this will be a huge hit, I just wish this area was way more pedestrian friendly.

Oh I know...getting around there on foot isn't easy!

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cowboyeagle05 wrote:I wonder what got into Harwood all of a sudden to try to use their empty land for something besides bland gardens with cow sculptures.

A desire to make some money while these lots sit mostly vacant?

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I'm glad they're not wasting any time on this one! This building is going to do so much to tie together and complete the Arts District.

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If you Google the Crystal Palace, you'll notice that it's much more spread-out and shorter (3ish stories). Who knows if the new owners will want to maintain that style, but one can imagine how a 4 story-tall expansion could make the Infomart appear even more consistent with its historic inspiration....

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texasstar wrote:The seething hatred for this beautiful structure continues to mystify me.

Some people are still upset about the circumstances surrounding the building's origin. Whether this continued obsession is constructive is debatable, but that's the source of their ire nonetheless.

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I want to point out in that rendering above the garage is not completely covered on the Woodall Rogers side. Mind you I am glad they are covering it on the Field street side and most likely the water gardens side but just so no one is flabbergasted and clutching pearls when the end product comes to...

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CTroyMathis wrote:Facing Ross:

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Olive side where there is still pre-construction parking lot all along this side, some asphalt covered completely in excavated dirt in places:

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That looks great...much better than I expected!

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I think the craftsman style is fine. It's not my personal cup of tea but it fits in well with the rest of the neighborhood. I do agree though about the neighborhood association sucking and wish more could have been done with this project.

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It's hideous. https://pbs.twimg.com/amplify_video_thumb/993783992083275776/img/z7ohZaTylEd0IV54.jpg This is hideous to you? I can't speak to whatever your expectations were for this building, but I hardly find this rendering "hideous." As for what's actually being built, the building's no...

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Not counting the side with the stupid surface lot, those are some of the nicest sidewalks in Uptown!

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Damn, that's some legit height! I wonder if "Point 1" and "Point 2" are some of the shorter, more central structures in the renderings.

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If the height has changed (I just assumed somebody hadn't checked their facts), maybe it *will* be the tallest residential tower.

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What matters to Dallas is the tax revenue and the prestige, which seems like a solid investment to me (the city has spent a lot more and received a lot less in return).

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Yeah, that looks awesome! How funny too, the crash pad notion.

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I wonder if a portion of their tenants park in the surface lot(s) across the street so this was a move intended to support entirely onsite parking, since what's across the street will eventually become a museum.

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Well it's a pretty building, but I still hate they're planning to knock down the existing buildings - especially since there's room to fit this on the property without doing so.

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I thought I'd share a photo of MEL from a foto.eng Instagram account which offers a great view of the extent of the rooftop changes.

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willyk wrote:These buildings are leading up nicely. Maple / Cedar Springs is looking more plausible every day.

Maple/Cedar Springs is looking more plausible as what? Are you referring to the proposed tower at that intersection and if so, what does that have to do with the Union?

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^ A very important, impactful lot retirement at that! Behind those four lots at Field and San Jacinto, I've felt like this was the lot that most needed to go and I'm so thankful it finally is.

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"State Thomasification." I love it! hahaha

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^^I agree. Oak Cliff will be more akin to LG. but why so much disdain towards uptown? That's arguably the best part of the urban core..why wouldn't you NOT want more of that! I love Uptown...especially State Thomas...and I'd be delighted if its positive aspects were to spread throughout the entire ...

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Project Apollo is a tech company. So....it's not a tech company but a printing company looking in south Dallas. What is Project Apollo? For Dallas, it could mean a $50 million investment https://www.dallasnews.com/business/jobs/2018/06/05/project-apollo-southern-dallas-could-mean-50-million-investm...

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Austin's Uptownification has been happening for some time now, so yeah, what's the difference? lol

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That was a great update - thanks for posting!

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Interesting indeed...thanks for posting!

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It fits in so much better with the rest of the neighborhood as well, without the paint. In the photo maconahey posted above, you can see how much more cohesive the Deep Ellum appears.

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I wonder where all that empty acreage is in New York City. I have rarely ever seen an empty space there. Rochester, buffalo, Houston, Tampa, etc....less available space than nyc and Chicago. I have been to all theses cities, this report is highly questionable. Somebody on Skyscraper Central made a ...

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I've never seen that either. I wonder if this is a newer iteration of what had previously been planned for that site (the alternative version kept more of the existing structure).

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They're not wasting any time with this one!

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It looks like the tower itself will better interact with the street than I expected. Sweet!

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Thanks, that's the first time I've seen that video. Most of the retail/restaurants in the video appeared to be made-up and fake, but I did see Jamba Juice and Jimmy John's. Does that mean, at the very least, those two will be coming to The Epic? Also, still can't get over how lame 'The Epic' sounds...

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The the land the Walgreens is on being attached to this property. I'd love to see that lot re-developed as well. If we had at least one side of McKinney more urban through that block. It would really help connect West Village to the rest of Uptown. Right now it just feels separated. You bring up a ...

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joshua.dodd wrote:Absolute waste of land. Just like the Mutts dog park in the West Village.

At least Mutts is temporary...

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OK I got to visit casually with a person on the inside and they said that the plan is they will raze the existing structure and put a mixed use with Residential and office towers with retail at bottom with underground parking. A Central Market will be part of that retail at the bottom of the develo...

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Awesome, so glad they kept the drug store!

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Tivo_Kenevil wrote:'A great modern city powered by sports'

..oh please...we have literally won 1 championship across all sports since 2000..

...so it's a good thing they didn't say "powered by championships" then.

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Those were some great shots of the city! It's too bad the visuals weren't better synced to the script though, so when the narrator was talking about Deep Ellum, etc, they showed the corresponding imagery. It was a bit disjointed to see the Infomart when they were talking about the convention center,...

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That it does! I wonder if what's shown in the renderings factors in weathering which could happen over time.

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Eburress - Aside from its charm, local history, relative walkability, uniqueness, and being much closer (and easier) than Northpark, I really can't think of the appeal Local History, Uniqueness? When did on the border, pottery barn, chueys, crate & barrel, Z gallerie, etc become unique lol. It’...

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Aside from its charm, local history, relative walkability, uniqueness, and being much closer (and easier) than Northpark, I really can't think of the appeal. :) Just because it's the last place *you* think of, surely you can still understand its appeal, especially to folks living in-town. It was the...

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Holy Cow! I did not see this coming.. I am glad the Sams was a no go.. and is the elevation part of the full structure height? i am confusion :?: :lol: Cant wait to see renderings for this site. We saw some very conceptual renderings before (about a year ago) which showed a good-sized mixed-use dev...

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I'm probably not reading those correctly but is that **four** different buildings of the same height, or does Central Office Point 1, 2, 3, 4 refer to the same tower?

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