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Recent speech by Tim McKay at SW Rail Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mx_6YQF5G4

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Recent speech by Tim Keith at SW Rail Conference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLuOMhFgV9o

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Come on guys and gals, if you're going to taking public transit to get to Houston you better be willing to walk a little bit. The only way I'm aware of that gives you front door to front door walkability for distances so large is with a private automobile or motorcycle. There's a very good chance th...

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Tier 1 look promising, somewhat. Once D2 is finished, another light rail line west to Oak Cliff makes sense.:) The LBJ line makes sense between I-35E and US-75, but that's not where they are proposing to build it. It only needs to tie the Green Line with the Red Line, or at most to the Blue Line. Th...

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They have drawings of all three stations posted under the Blog tab of their web site. https://www.texascentral.com/blog/ The general design, platform areas, and train tracks of all three stations are very similar. The main differences between them is where the parking garages are located and how the...

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What? Are we looking at the same site plan? It looks pretty damn convenient to both Convention Center and Cedars stations to me... The only problem is that Houston is dropping the ball on their end. Three blocks at a typical 300 feet per block, is 900 feet. Add another block or two from the train's...

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My thoughts exactly. This station is supposed to be a huge catalyst for development, and, while that will still be true, it's absurd that so much space is being taken up by an above ground parking garage. This should be more of an urban mall with an attached high-rise. Look at the new Miami Central...

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I wouldn't go as far as to state projections on new ridership are suspicious - they were made using a calculation approved by the FTA and FRA. What's missing in the various arguments are that both D2 and the Cotton Belt have similar numbers in the projections - around 10,000 new riders per day (or ...

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I wouldn't go as far as to state projections on new ridership are suspicious - they were made using a calculation approved by the FTA and FRA. What's missing in the various arguments are that both D2 and the Cotton Belt have similar numbers in the projections - around 10,000 new riders per day (or s...

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Should have chosen Union Station for the Dallas terminal. Obvious, obvious, obvious. Where would they place the dedicated HSR tracks at Union Station? The latest NCTCOG funded DEIS for the Fort Worth HSR station places it 30 feet above the existing ITC station platforms, in a location with far more...

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dukemeredith wrote:Are these numbers individual people?!

Those green line numbers are appallingly low.

Read the morning news article linked, it should answer all your questions.

I didn't invent them out of thin air!

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The traffic counts for this useless line for 2040, not when built. 20 years from now: DFW: 1170 North DFW: 1320 Cypress W: 910 Downtown Carrollton: 1970 Addison: 1690 Knoll Trail: 530 Preston: 400 Coit: 760 UT Dallas: 850 CityLine: 1380 12th Street: 370 Shiloh: 680 I'm sure Plano is going to drop D...

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Ellis County commuter rail has been pushed by the NCTCOG and RTC for years. but lets get a little realistic with the lack of population within Ellis County and it's ability to financially support a commuter rail line.... Various nearby County population data: *Dallas County 2,574,984 *Tarrant County...

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It was an interesting presentation and study to read. It basically looked at improving three things; (1)drivability to the site including parking,(2) walkability to the site including aerial structures, (3) gettiing transit to the site. (1) and (2) was mostly accomplished by reinstating a street gri...

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Here’s their names with links to their photos. The Crescent Rose or Rosie (Car 122) http://mata.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Uptown_Sept16_960-674.jpg The Green Dragon (Car 186) http://www.uptowndallas.net/assets/UDI-4106-1680x860-Trolley.jpg Matilda (Car 369) http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1...

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Who is using the Virgin America gates today? Can’t Delta negotiate with them and leave Southwest alone? Additionally, it was Dallas that pushed for the 20 gate limit, there will never be more than 20 gates at Love Field if Dallas never builds more. Almighty god can grant Love Field permission and ca...

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Praying for all the families affected apparently by a lone shooter. 2nd Amendment.... Today's Sutherland church shooting is going to bring it up again, at least at the State level if not nationally. Sutherland lies within a community that has a post office, a Dollar General store, two gas stations, ...

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Right now they're using the money to support the Knox Complete Streets project. The MATA extension would be the next logical project (assuming they re-up the district this year). The PID gets $300k a year for a quite small area. A fair estimate of costs based on twice the MATA extension in downtown...

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Has anyone considered moving the Farmers Market to Fair Park ? It's grown smaller and the area around it filling with high end residential. Eventually the land will be too expensive for the Market and it would give Fair Park year round activity.....on the DART line as well. Great idea! They will be...

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Gating up the stations could also make for better security while waiting for the train. Anyone have a guest what it would cost to create secured entry to the stations with ticket or phone app entry from outside like other cities. It’ll cost a lot more than what they will earn with increase fares. A...

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Commercial property developers don’t necessarily want residential tenants. Market Center is set up for conventions and merchandizing shows. Which can be too noisy for residents attempting to rest and sleep. Different zonmg requires different ambient noise levels, different lighting levels, etc. One ...

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I used DART again to go the fair this weekend and was a great experience overall. The one thing that I think of when riding DART are the stations that could be surrounded by so much more living and density. Market Center is one I would like to see them develop all the way from the Infomart down to ...

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^what is the state's share? The State of Texas until very, very recently, hasn’t contributed any funds what-so-ever to transit. Not for construction, not for operations, not for anything at all. Recently, TXDOT distributed thinly around a $Half Billion$ throughout the State for transit agencies, fo...

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While it is true DART will not have the funds to fully fund the Cotton Belt by itself for another 10-15-20 years, it could have the funds much sooner if the Cotton Belt corridor qualify for FTA funding. Even sooner if the D2 Line also qualified for FTA funding. There’s no guarantee either will, but ...

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Amazon executives are progressives politically, they are not going to wish to live in a conservative area. So we should drop most of the South, including Texas, and the Midwest from the prospective candidates. I’m thinking central-southern Florida and the D.C. suburbs of northern Virginia would be t...

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I post a link or report where I find the data. I can not attest to either the US Census or Wiki website’s accuracy. Maybe someone should look for another independent website to bounce the data off. ;) Accuracy of the data aside, Legacy needs more transit than it has today. The BNSF Madill corridor r...

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For all those advocating a complete tear down and rerouting US-75 to Woodall Rogers, imagine you are driving from Richardson to Houston. Once you get on Woodall Rogers, you will have to make a left turn at Stemmons using the single lane loop by turning right. Then you would have to merge who knows h...

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The problem with tunneling I-345 is that I-30 is already 25 feet below grade. So to tunnel under I-30 will require tunneling I-345 50 feet below grade. Presently, at I-30, I-345 (or US-75) is 100 feet above I-30 or 75 feet above grade. So you will have to change it’s elevation by 125 feet. The steep...

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Maybe I'm missing something, but I guess I just don't see the value of a short, unconnected (without transfer) line from one low-density suburb that'll only run a couple of times a day. You’re missing the Legacy Business Park in Northwest Plano. Believe it or not, Plano Business Park employs about ...

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Well, sure. That is what I would want if I could just snap my fingers. But there's the small problem of the actual delivery/support of the project, unless there's been a sudden acceptance of taking lanes in N Dallas and at TxDOT and running rail through Preston Hollow that I'm unaware of. Preston H...

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What I would want if I were Plano would be train stations in or near the western neighborhoods of Plano. That could be accomplished the following ways: (A) commuter (regional) rail along the BNSF Madill corridor towards Frisco from Carrollton. This requires a commuter rail platform near the downtown...

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Rowlett is a first ring suburban city, and surely expects more than what they are getting. Rowlett is a "first ring" suburban city?! Sorry, I meant Addison. I’ll correct my earlier reply. There are other first ring suburban cities of Dallas that aren’t member cities yet. Addison could be ...

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DART can't afford to lose its #2 and #8 cities, period, end of story. Cash, influence, potential for other cities to leave, if Addison were to leave it would rock the foundation of a relatively fragile organization. Plano would be emboldened to do the same. You are correct, Plano does get the shaft...

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Addison has barely paid anything for DART...... The current alignment of the Cotton Belt even shafts Plano - as it passes mostly through Richardson Also Irving has paid nearly as much as Plano into DART, and they are the #2 big dog, not Plano or Addison. Addison has been a member city since DART’s ...

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If the Pacific artery is cut, light rail trains can get from the Red&Blue lines to the Green Line via the maintenance shops near Fair Park - just like they do for UT-Ou games. It wouldn’t make a great substitute, but some trains could still get through. DART will be able to reconfigure the lines...

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The DMUs DART proposes on using on the Cotton Belt will not require electric catenaries over the tracks, and will therefore be unusable for DART light rail trains to run on. Although the track gauge will be the same, DART’s light rail vehicles will require another diesel, or other fuel, powered loco...

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Tucy wrote:What is deceptive about saying it's 40% quieter, if it is in fact 40% quieter?

When the noise from an aircraft is around 100 to 120 dB, most people believe 60 to 70 dB would be 40% quieter, not the actual 96 dB to 116 dB, they confuse matters when they use %..

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Cbdallas wrote:Are the Max jets supposed to be quieter?

Yes, 40% quieter per
http://www.boeing.com/features/2016/09/ ... 09-16.page

Which is kind of deceptive in a way, as noise is measured in dB, which is logrithmic in scale. So a 40% reduction is just 4 dB lower, not 40 dB lower.

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Imagine how cool if that Knox-Henderson station was open. I don't get the Cotton Belt line most of those people that live in that area would take Uber to the airport and even more so in the future. DART needs to serve the urban going forward that is where it will find riders. Knox-Henderson wasn’t ...

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No way SWA will fly to Hawaii from anywhere except from California, at least in the near term with the fleet and Love Field gate constraints. They were going to make some announcements a few weeks ago, but the hurricanes delayed it (I work in the ops center). You’re probably correct, but please all...

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Anyway, the Max7 will easily get you to Hawaii from DAL, it would be cool to have direct flights from Love Field to Hawaii, although not sure how comfortable a 7 hour flight in a 737 would be! The Max 8 jets are already in Southwest’s fleet and can do the job on paper. Good news on the updates for ...

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That would be amazing to have flights to Hawaii from Southwest, by far my favorite low cost airline! How far away is Honolulu from DFW? Per Air Miles Calculator - The flight distance from Dallas Fort Worth International Airport (DFW) to Honolulu International Airport (HNL) is 3783 miles (6087 kilom...

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19 minutes to Austin, sold. Where in Austin would you place the Hyperloop Station? Keep in mind the airlines wouldn't allow it on airport property! Where in Austin will there be a cheap to obtain right-of-way and acreage for this station? Imagine the worse possible location, as far away from other ...

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Hyperloop fares subsidized, by whim? It certainly will not be TXDOT subsidizing the Hyperloop fares.
And one way fares of $330 is much, much greater than the fares airlines, Amtrak, and Greyhound charges.

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The wise and cheap demographic gets a friend or family member to drop them off. :D Your business travelers aren't worried about the cost -- they just expense it. I Googled and Googled and couldn't find the exact figures, but I know that DFW has a LOT more terminal parking spaces than they have remo...

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Based on both those maps the HSR station wouldn't be flooded but could have potentially been damaged. Since I haven't seen any actual footage of the future train station site after the events it's hard to tell. Not to mention the infrastructure that leads to the end of line station could be damaged...

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There's a reason why DFW installed the People Mover to interconnect all 5 existing terminals, and already set up and in place for a future terminal F. And if you're like most wise and cheap customers, you're parking in the remote parking lots and will be riding a bus to your parked car anyways. So c...

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Whereas all means of transportation will be used for an evacuation, most people will still use cars and highways to do so. HSR will only provide a drop in a 5 gallon bucket to it. No one should be suggesting using evacuations as an reason for building a HSR network. When it is built, it will be buil...

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rantanamo wrote:when did Union Station come into play? I thought the two proposed sites were over I-30 and in the Cedars.

It's not! Somebody who doesn't have to pay for it or build it suggested Union Station would be better site.

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It doesn't matter who owns the buildings adjacent to/ and Union Station as much as who owns the railroad corridors. I don't think the UP, BNSF, DGNO, TRE, or DART will allow a privately owned HSR elevated track and station structure above their grade level tracks. Parallel to their tracks maybe, but...

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